2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!

[5mn_Major]

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Note the headline of this "study". There are two glaring problems. Unless you feel (and I won't argue about it) that states should have less autonomy in education. Then there's just one glaring problem.

There's a correlation between education spending and results. Pick your state. Pick your spending metric. Pick your education outcome.

As with the science poll, the majority in both the following polls is in the top 10 spenders on education...

At the top of the class
Education Week's Top 10:

State Grade
1. Maryland B+
2. New York B
3. Massachusetts B
4. Virginia B-
5. Florida B-


Report Card on American Education: K-12 State Performance, Progress, and Reform
The American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC)

Student Performance

Top

1. Vermont
2. Massachusetts
3. Florida
4. New Hampshire
5. New York

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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There's a correlation between education spending and results.

Convince one Republican of that. Seriously. The major issue with this country is that both sides hide their collective heads in the sand when information like this opposes their orthodoxy.

That's why we're Rome. That's why we will burn.

 

[Kepler]

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Convince one Republican of that.

You keep saying this, but the answer is always the same: "why bother"? At some point, if the anchor is buried deep enough and won't budge, you stop trying to pry it loose and just cut the line.

Let's assume they simply can't make the jump from agrarian thunder god to the 18th century. That's fine -- they aren't a majority, in the long run on every issue they'll lose. They'll get madder and more violent, but they'll have less and less real power as they keep doubling down on more and more reactionary positions. Like the angry drunk in the bar, they'll annihilate any sympathy with their own idiocy. Game's almost over for them as it is... let them burn themselves out.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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You keep saying this, but the answer is always the same: "why bother"? At some point, if the anchor is buried deep enough and won't budge, you stop trying to pry it loose and just cut the line.

Let's assume they simply can't make the jump from agrarian thunder god to the 18th century. That's fine -- they aren't a majority, in the long run on every issue they'll lose. They'll get madder and more violent, but they'll have less and less real power as they keep doubling down on more and more reactionary positions. Like the angry drunk in the bar, they'll annihilate any sympathy with their own idiocy. Game's almost over for them as it is... let them burn themselves out.

Nope.

They keep getting elected. They're not the minority. That's the problem.

 

[Kepler]

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They keep getting elected. They're not the minority. That's the problem.

First of all, very few of "them" get elected. They vote straight ticket GOP and the GOP like to play dress-up in their clothes for the campaign, but after Election Day they're about as close to the corridors of power as... well, as say liberals re: the Dems.

Second of all, they've come down a long, long way. They used to have a large presence in both parties, now they have a large presence in one party. Demographics is destroying them, and oddly enough whenever their guy wins an election their decline is accelerated even further.

How exactly are they going to make a comeback? Are we going to suddenly restrict the franchise to rural white males over 50?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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First of all, very few of "them" get elected. They vote straight ticket GOP and the GOP like to play dress-up in their clothes for the campaign, but after Election Day they're about as close to the corridors of power as... well, as say liberals re: the Dems.

Second of all, they've come down a long, long way. They used to have a large presence in both parties, now they have a large presence in one party. Demographics is destroying them, and oddly enough whenever their guy wins an election their decline is accelerated even further.

How exactly are they going to make a comeback? Are we going to suddenly restrict the franchise to rural white males over 50?

Very few? Really? Then why are all 3 in leadership positions (Cantor, Boehner, and McConnell) all part of the problem? And if they beat Obama (tepid if) and manage to take the Senate (probability) you'll have Romney, Boehner, McConnell, and Cantor running the country. They managed in 8 years to set us back 30. They could shoot for the Dark Ages with that leadership. And all (4) of them are the EXACT kind of politicians I am referring to when I say convince one. Cause if you can't convince one of those (4) you can't convince any of them.

 

[Priceless]

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So sad to see these people fight.

Two tea partiers have sued the founders of the Tea Party Patriots for defamation, alleging that they posted false information about one being a child molester and the other being a victim of rape and child molestation, under the Facebook alias "Dale Buttersworth."

James Lyle and Kylie Kremer allege that Tea Party Patriots co-founder Jenny Beth Martin and her husband, TPP's CEO Lee Martin, defamed them on "a public group in Facebook," and that the "Internet Protocol Address, cell phone and email addresses on file with Facebook for the user, screen-name of alias 'Dale Buttersworth' belong to both Jenny Beth Martin and Lee Martin."
....
But according to Kremer's complaint, on October 5th of last year, "Dale Buttersworth" falsely wrote in a post that Kremer "had been raped, reported the rape to the police and was kicked out of her home by her mother and her mother's boyfriend as a result of reporting the rape."

Lyle's complaint alleges that "Buttersworth" falsely wrote that he was "guilty of having raped, the minor daughter of his girlfriend and was a child molester."

 

[Old Pio]

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Very few? Really? Then why are all 3 in leadership positions (Cantor, Boehner, and McConnell) all part of the problem? And if they beat Obama (tepid if) and manage to take the Senate (probability) you'll have Romney, Boehner, McConnell, and Cantor running the country. They managed in 8 years to set us back 30. They could shoot for the Dark Ages with that leadership. And all (4) of them are the EXACT kind of politicians I am referring to when I say convince one. Cause if you can't convince one of those (4) you can't convince any of them.

Geez, I've got my fingers crossed. In the meantime, you could always head to Spumoni park and take a dump on a cop car.

 

[Kepler]

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Very few? Really? Then why are all 3 in leadership positions (Cantor, Boehner, and McConnell)

Cmon, do you really think any of those guys are "them"? DeMint, yeah. Coburn, maybe. A fair number of freshmen Congressmen. But that's it. The rest of the guys with the flag-pin lapels are just weathermen who watch the way the wind blows, and in another decade they'll be on to the next gimmick.

 

[Bakunin]

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Never realized Kepler was a Joe Jackson fan. Maybe there's hope for him yet.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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I don't know why I turned on the debate, but I did.

Best decision ever. Perry was about to punch Mitt in the face and all Mitt could do was cry to Anderson Cooper. It was pathetic.

Perry has completely lost it.

Now Michelle Bachmann is blathering about Obama's family who's here illegally.

JFC. The Repubs are just pathetic.

 

[Kepler]

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Didn't even realize there was another one. Somebody should suggest to the Republican field they should all throw themselves off a cliff, because Jesus will save the ones who truly believe. You have faith in Jesus, right? Because not doing that would be comm'nist.

Live blog here. It sounds like more of the same, though no booing of soldiers or cheering for death. Yet.

 

[Bakunin]

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I am smarter than nearly everyone on that stage. Legitimately.

No you aren't.

Never forget the politician's credo: "say anything to get elected".

It's an open question how much of the crap coming out of their mouths is actually believed.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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No you aren't.

Never forget the politician's credo: "say anything to get elected".

It's an open question how much of the crap coming out of their mouths is actually believed.

Yes, I am. I deleted this portion from my previous statement anyways because it was incorrect. I am smarter than EVERYONE on that stage.

 

[Bakunin]

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Yes, I am. I deleted this portion from my previous statement anyways because it was incorrect. I am smarter than EVERYONE on that stage.

So run for public office, get a major party's nomination, get elected, and secure a cushy job for yourself if it's so easy that these idiots can do it.

 

[Kepler]

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So run for public office, get a major party's nomination, get elected, and secure a cushy job for yourself if it's so easy that these idiots can do it.

If you were single, maybe. But if you have a family you'd have to be a sociopath to put them through that.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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So run for public office, get a major party's nomination, get elected, and secure a cushy job for yourself if it's so easy that these idiots can do it.

That's the dumbest thing I have read on here in months. So I hope you're kidding.

Just because you can convince a nation of idiots to vote for you, doesn't mean you're smart. That's like saying the people who were in student council were the smartest people in high school.

No, the smart ones are the ones who bury their noses in the books and prepare for the future.

 

[Bakunin]

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If you were single, maybe. But if you have a family you'd have to be a sociopath to put them through that.

Pretty sure dx is single.

 

[Foxton]

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No religious test for public office? What is Romney thinking?

 

[Priceless]

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