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2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!

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Thoughts on the Robin Hood Tax? It seems to me a better source of untapped revenue than some alternatives... if it were collected to pay down debt.
 
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Dangit, Ron. I thought you were different.

During this week’s Republican presidential primary debate in Las Vegas, both Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX) and Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) slammed the very idea of subsidizing any energy source. “Quite frankly, the government shouldn’t be in the business of subsidizing any form of energy,” Paul said. “So I would say, the more the free market handles this and the more you deal with property rights and no subsidies to any form of energy, the easier this problem would be solved.” Perry added later, “we don’t need to be subsidizing energy in any form or fashion.”

But as it turns out, both Perry and Paul have sought federal energy subsidies with gusto, as the Washington Post noted today:

Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Rep. Ron Paul (Tex.) pressed the energy secretary in 2008 to approve a federal loan guarantee to help an energy company hoping to expand a nuclear facility in Texas. NRG Energy was among the many firms vying for a slice of $18.5 billion in federal loan guarantees set aside for nuclear production, according to letters obtained by The Washington Post. That led to a rush of appeals from Congress members and other elected officials, including Perry and Paul, hoping to win support for their projects.
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Well then you're about as retarded as he is. He has the funny track record of attaching things to bills he knows will pass and then vote against them so he can claim he's principled.
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Source?

In all honesty, I thought Paul was the real deal. Not my deal, but a real one nonetheless.
 
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Kepler said:
Source?

In all honesty, I thought Paul was the real deal. Not my deal, but a real one nonetheless.
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Ugh, the video I had with a big list of Ron Paul crap sourced is private. (There's this whole thing about suing a user on youtube or youtube itself for their use of DMCA's connected to the user. It's been a long time coming since youtube has been more than happy to let this ****** named Brett Keane rip people off through their service and abuse their system to harass others. A good primer on the guy if you want a laugh)

Ooh, I did find another.
http://www.redstate.com/jeffdunetz/2010/04/14/the-hypocrisy-of-congressman-ron-paul/

CAVUTO:Congressman, the rap is that you’re a porker, that — that a lot of pork, $73 million-plus, went to your district. Is that true?

REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS: Well, it might be. But I think you’re missing the whole point. I have never voted for an earmark. I voted against all appropriation bills. So, this whole thing about earmarks is totally misunderstood.
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And you thought he was the real deal? HAHAHAHA AHHAHAH AHA AHHAHAHAHA
 
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And you thought he was the real deal?
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Yeah, I did, because he's been so consistent in his libertarian rhetoric over the course of decades, and because for most of that time it's made him as "out there" as say Kucinich on the left.

The earmark game is sadly familiar: John McCain has used that racket for 30 years to simultaneously run as an "outsider" and also assure his state gets all the pork it can cram down its pie hole. But unlike McCain I thought Ron Paul actually believed in something. I completely recognize there are "libertarians of convenience" who mouth the words but are just run of the mill slime-mold politicos. (One particularly unpleasant exhibit is Rand Paul.)

One cautionary note, though: the GOP obviously wants to destroy Paul because he does not stick to The Script (he was actually critical of Reagan Jesus in the last debate, which is punishable by burning at the stake, and he has called complete BS on the "send jarheads to protect corporate profits" game that has been the center of Republican foreign policy since Nixon). So a lot of what comes out of GOP waterboys and pipe organs like Redstate, Pajamas Media, NewsMax, etc is almost certainly garbage.

Still: that quote stings pretty bad.
 
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Depressing but true read on how the GOP got so lame.

At the same time, however, there’s been a marked increase in fringe candidates who are “running for president” for reasons other than actually attempting to obtain the Republican nomination. There have always been ideological minorities who used the process to press their views or issues, with Ron Paul and Gary Johnson just the latest version of that. But what’s relatively new, and is now apparently more attractive, is using the presidential race as a way to create or build one’s brand in the conservative marketplace—what Jonathan Chait calls “business plan” candidates. Their incentive is to stake out the most extreme positions and court controversy in order to get themselves noticed by the most partisan customers of conservative books, talk shows, and other products, instead of developing carefully constructed issue positions designed to build party-wide support; their role model is Ann Coulter, not Ronald Reagan or Bob Dole.

We’ve seen these types before in both political parties (Alan Keyes, Al Sharpton, and perhaps Rudy Giuliani), but now the GOP field is lousy with them, from Newt Gingrich to Rick Santorum to Michele Bachmann to the man of the hour, Herman Cain. Of course, some of these “candidates” may think of themselves as serious contenders or, perhaps, ideological crusaders. But their behavior reveals them to be more concerned with selling books or getting a syndicated radio show.
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Thoughts on the Robin Hood Tax? It seems to me a better source of untapped revenue than some alternatives... if it were collected to pay down debt.
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Personally, I think it is great. Realistically there is a better chance the entire GOP stands up, joins the OWS movement and votes "yes" on every bill Obama puts forth.
 
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Handyman said:
Personally, I think it is great. Realistically there is a better chance the entire GOP stands up, joins the OWS movement and votes "yes" on every bill Obama puts forth.
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There's a simple solution to that.
 
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Handyman said:
Personally, I think it is great. Realistically there is a better chance the entire GOP stands up, joins the OWS movement and votes "yes" on every bill Obama puts forth.
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Yeah.
 
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40 minutes!

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Now Cain isn't just stealing from SimCity, but from the FairTax people as well.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/20/cain-adds-to-plan-angering-unions/

Seldom noted is the plan’s second phase. After an unspecified duration of Phase One – “as long as it takes,” from two years to a decade, a Cain adviser told Fox News – the 9 percent individual and corporate taxes would be eliminated entirely, leaving the nation with only the national sales tax.

Such a tax is widely characterized, including by the Cain campaign on its website, as “the fair tax.” When Phase One ends and Phase Two begins, this national sales tax, in becoming a fair tax, jumps considerably from its original 9 percent rate. As explained on the website fairtax.org, longtime proponents of the fair tax estimate it could reach 30 percent; Cain’s advisers put the figure at 23 or 28 percent, depending on how one runs the numbers.
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Someone find this man an actual economist, so he can stop taking his tax policy pointers from some small-town Ohio banker.

Oh, and he also wants to create "opportunity zones" which would be exempt from those horrid regulations like minimum wage laws.
 
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Bad news for Bachmann (sorry Scoobs)
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It says something that one of them has already signed on with Perry.

And what it says is internal campaign polling also shows Republicans really, really can't stand Mitt.

This is also going to be great because we will now get all sorts of leaks of Eye Witness to Insane Behavior like when HMS Palin sunk.

You never know what you've got till it's gone. (Scooby is exempt from this. He knew exactly what we had.)

I assume her FNC gig will start next week.
 
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Rick Perry: job creator.

At the lower end, sociologists Chad Richardson and Michael Pisani estimate that between 5 percent and 10 percent of the value of the Rio Grande Valley’s economy is derived from illegal activities, much of it drug trafficking.

For their upcoming book, “Over, Under, and Around: The Informal and Underground Economy of the South Texas Border,” they surveyed 149 people involved in the “underground economy” — mostly drugs — and found 87 percent were U.S. citizens. The income of those involved in trafficking averaged $70,596 annually, which on top of average legitimate wages of $16,309 brought their total earnings to $82,598
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