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Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
Find me one Republican who believes that. Just one.
Find me one Republican who believes that. Just one.
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Kepler
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Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
Over/under for when we see the resumption of classic tactics against the protestors? (I know, we already have.) "History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes."
If you're scoring at home:
1. When a strike is threatened, label the union leaders as "agitators" to discredit them with the public and their own followers. Conduct balloting under the foremen to ascertain the strength of the union and to make possible misrepresentation of the strikers as a small minority. Exert economic pressure through threats to move the plant, align bankers, real estate owners and businessmen into a "Citizens' Committee".
2. Raise high the banner of "law and order", thereby causing the community to mass legal and police weapons against imagined violence and to forget that employees have equal rights with others in the community.
3. Call a "mass meeting" to coordinate public sentiment against the strike and strengthen the Citizens' Committee.
4. Form a large police force to intimidate the strikers and exert a psychological effect. Utilize local police, state police, vigilantes and special deputies chosen, if possible, from other neighborhoods.
5. Convince the strikers their cause is hopeless with a "back-to-work" movement by a puppet association of so-called "loyal employees" secretly organized by the employer.
6. When enough applications are on hand, set a date for opening the plant by having such opening requested by the puppet "back-to-work" association.
7. Stage the "opening" theatrically by throwing open the gates and having the employees march in a mass protected by squads of armed police so as to dramatize and exaggerate the opening and heighten the demoralizing effect.
8. Demoralize the strikers with a continuing show of force. If necessary turn the locality into a warlike camp and barricade it from the outside world.
9. Close the publicity barrage on the theme that the plant is in full operation and the strikers are merely a minority attempting to interfere with the right to work. With this, the campaign is over—-the employer has broken the strike.
I'm sure there are many conservatives who understand it. As for Republicans, who says they think at all?
Over/under for when we see the resumption of classic tactics against the protestors? (I know, we already have.) "History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes."
If you're scoring at home:
1. When a strike is threatened, label the union leaders as "agitators" to discredit them with the public and their own followers. Conduct balloting under the foremen to ascertain the strength of the union and to make possible misrepresentation of the strikers as a small minority. Exert economic pressure through threats to move the plant, align bankers, real estate owners and businessmen into a "Citizens' Committee".
2. Raise high the banner of "law and order", thereby causing the community to mass legal and police weapons against imagined violence and to forget that employees have equal rights with others in the community.
3. Call a "mass meeting" to coordinate public sentiment against the strike and strengthen the Citizens' Committee.
4. Form a large police force to intimidate the strikers and exert a psychological effect. Utilize local police, state police, vigilantes and special deputies chosen, if possible, from other neighborhoods.
5. Convince the strikers their cause is hopeless with a "back-to-work" movement by a puppet association of so-called "loyal employees" secretly organized by the employer.
6. When enough applications are on hand, set a date for opening the plant by having such opening requested by the puppet "back-to-work" association.
7. Stage the "opening" theatrically by throwing open the gates and having the employees march in a mass protected by squads of armed police so as to dramatize and exaggerate the opening and heighten the demoralizing effect.
8. Demoralize the strikers with a continuing show of force. If necessary turn the locality into a warlike camp and barricade it from the outside world.
9. Close the publicity barrage on the theme that the plant is in full operation and the strikers are merely a minority attempting to interfere with the right to work. With this, the campaign is over—-the employer has broken the strike.
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Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
Here's the Venn diagram and comparison between TP and OWS. A merger would be a lot of fun (and would get Ron Paul elected).
Here's the Venn diagram and comparison between TP and OWS. A merger would be a lot of fun (and would get Ron Paul elected).
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Foxton
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Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
It's sad that Ron Paul is somehow a part of that.
It's sad that Ron Paul is somehow a part of that.
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Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
Ah, the good old days. I thought it was conservatives who "lived in the past." Set up some tents someplace and demand payment of your "bonus." If unions are such a freaking good idea, why is their percentage of the workforce dropping? I realize Deadmeat and all his little pals are doing everything they can to reverse that trend, but there you have it.
Ah, the good old days. I thought it was conservatives who "lived in the past." Set up some tents someplace and demand payment of your "bonus." If unions are such a freaking good idea, why is their percentage of the workforce dropping? I realize Deadmeat and all his little pals are doing everything they can to reverse that trend, but there you have it.
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duper
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Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
In order to compete with overseas markets, I think that we need to eliminate the minimum wage, and basically make benefits a thing of the past. Then some of the jobs that have left the country will come back because more employers will be able to afford American workers. All of the employers, and most of the low-level employees will see how bad the labor laws actually were, and in fifty years we can be back to the really good old days of the early days of the industrial revolution. Of course, then people might start to remember what the value of unions was.
A lot of unions have gotten out of hand, but I am far too cynical to believe that getting rid of them altogether is a good thing. The days of employers exercising abusive power over employees will return. I'm sure of it.
In order to compete with overseas markets, I think that we need to eliminate the minimum wage, and basically make benefits a thing of the past. Then some of the jobs that have left the country will come back because more employers will be able to afford American workers. All of the employers, and most of the low-level employees will see how bad the labor laws actually were, and in fifty years we can be back to the really good old days of the early days of the industrial revolution. Of course, then people might start to remember what the value of unions was.
A lot of unions have gotten out of hand, but I am far too cynical to believe that getting rid of them altogether is a good thing. The days of employers exercising abusive power over employees will return. I'm sure of it.
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Until then, we'll just have to be satisfied with unions "exercising abusive power."
Until then, we'll just have to be satisfied with unions "exercising abusive power."
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Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
So if we lower our standard of living to that of a small Asian nation we'll be OK? Sounds awesome.
So if we lower our standard of living to that of a small Asian nation we'll be OK? Sounds awesome.
duper
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Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
Yes. Yes, that was indeed the point I was making. It had nothing to do with that fact that unions, even with the "abusive power" they exercise over each of us every day, still serve a purpose.
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Keep in mind the "purpose" unions serve the next time you're standing in line at the DMV or USPS and none of those dedicated public servants look even slightly interested in moving things along.
Yes. Yes, that was indeed the point I was making. It had nothing to do with that fact that unions, even with the "abusive power" they exercise over each of us every day, still serve a purpose.
Keep in mind the "purpose" unions serve the next time you're standing in line at the DMV or USPS and none of those dedicated public servants look even slightly interested in moving things along.
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Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
So your suggestion that we eliminate the minimum wage and benefits was #notintendedasafactualstatement
Yes. Yes, that was indeed the point I was making. It had nothing to do with that fact that unions, even with the "abusive power" they exercise over each of us every day, still serve a purpose.
So your suggestion that we eliminate the minimum wage and benefits was #notintendedasafactualstatement
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Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
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This is making the rounds on the Internet with the objective of ridiculing Herman Cain. Conversely, I think it humanizes him a lot more than his "9-9-9" plan. If Bob Dole had revealed some of his sense of humor on the campaign trail instead of being "Grumpy old man" he might have been president.
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This is making the rounds on the Internet with the objective of ridiculing Herman Cain. Conversely, I think it humanizes him a lot more than his "9-9-9" plan. If Bob Dole had revealed some of his sense of humor on the campaign trail instead of being "Grumpy old man" he might have been president.
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Self deprecation is important. Reagan did it. So did JFK: "I'm the guy who accompanied Mrs. Kennedy to France." 'Course if the GOP would stop nominating "grumpy old men," that might help, too.
Self deprecation is important. Reagan did it. So did JFK: "I'm the guy who accompanied Mrs. Kennedy to France." 'Course if the GOP would stop nominating "grumpy old men," that might help, too.
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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
This is how we choose the person with the nuclear codes.
These things are always low blow, always dumb, and sometimes pretty funny. Nobody's going to beat Howard Dean's yell any time soon, though.
This is how we choose the person with the nuclear codes.
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