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2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!

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I read that URL and all I can think is:

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5mn_Major said:
I guess kids in poor families have no work ethic.

What is wrong with these people?
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Is this the quote you're referring to:

*** Classic Newt: Turning back to the GOP presidential race, Gingrich comments about the need for poor children in poor neighborhoods to work was Classic Newt. He raised an important point (work ethic in poor neighborhoods, but his rhetoric might have gone a little too far. “Really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits for working and have nobody around them who works,” he said in Iowa yesterday, per NBC’s Alex Moe. “So they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday.” A broad generalization that, to the ears of many, comes across as uninformed about poor communities and a little condescending and dismissive of those in poor neighborhoods who work 12-15 hours and don’t know how to get ahead. Again, it’s Newt: The center is an idea everyone agrees with (get kids in troubled neighborhoods an opportunity to get ahead), but then how he gets to that idea assumes a stereotype that is offensive to some.

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Yikes. Everybody, and that's every single person, who's poor is that way because they're lazy. Furthermore, all of their kids will end up the same way because everybody turns out exactly like their parents. Yeah. This guy's going to be the next President? How does he sell that attitude in the rust belt and south where lower income white voters make up the base of the party? I mean, its not like he can appeal to them on his stellar morals and character.
 
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Rover said:
Is this the quote you're referring to:

*** Classic Newt: Turning back to the GOP presidential race, Gingrich comments about the need for poor children in poor neighborhoods to work was Classic Newt. He raised an important point (work ethic in poor neighborhoods, but his rhetoric might have gone a little too far. “Really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits for working and have nobody around them who works,” he said in Iowa yesterday, per NBC’s Alex Moe. “So they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday.” A broad generalization that, to the ears of many, comes across as uninformed about poor communities and a little condescending and dismissive of those in poor neighborhoods who work 12-15 hours and don’t know how to get ahead. Again, it’s Newt: The center is an idea everyone agrees with (get kids in troubled neighborhoods an opportunity to get ahead), but then how he gets to that idea assumes a stereotype that is offensive to some.

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Yikes. Everybody, and that's every single person, who's poor is that way because they're lazy. Furthermore, all of their kids will end up the same way because everybody turns out exactly like their parents. Yeah. This guy's going to be the next President? How does he sell that attitude in the rust belt and south where lower income white voters make up the base of the party? I mean, its not like he can appeal to them on his stellar morals and character.
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Remember that during the whole "put a gun to Clinton's head and shut the government down" disaster that he caused he had that wonderful quote about orphanages.
 
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Rover said:
Is this the quote you're referring to:

*** Classic Newt: Turning back to the GOP presidential race, Gingrich comments about the need for poor children in poor neighborhoods to work was Classic Newt. He raised an important point (work ethic in poor neighborhoods, but his rhetoric might have gone a little too far. “Really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits for working and have nobody around them who works,” he said in Iowa yesterday, per NBC’s Alex Moe. “So they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday.” A broad generalization that, to the ears of many, comes across as uninformed about poor communities and a little condescending and dismissive of those in poor neighborhoods who work 12-15 hours and don’t know how to get ahead. Again, it’s Newt: The center is an idea everyone agrees with (get kids in troubled neighborhoods an opportunity to get ahead), but then how he gets to that idea assumes a stereotype that is offensive to some.

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Yikes. Everybody, and that's every single person, who's poor is that way because they're lazy. Furthermore, all of their kids will end up the same way because everybody turns out exactly like their parents. Yeah. This guy's going to be the next President? How does he sell that attitude in the rust belt and south where lower income white voters make up the base of the party? I mean, its not like he can appeal to them on his stellar morals and character.
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The mindset is clear.

- It couldn't just be a bad situation. So there's no way anybody else could possiblly have a hand in it.
- Its their own fault. Blame the poor
- As its driven by their work ethic, there's no solution. Telegraphing there is no plan to address the poor..and when the poor in this country crater further, don't blame Newt.

Its the ugly side of ideology. Complain with no solutions and undermine anyone who might be an opponent.
 
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Rover said:
Ron Paul is a lunatic. I appreciate his uniqueness and willingness to take on unpopular stances, but when those stances are dangerous and unworkable the guy isn't any more suitable to be President than Michelle Bachmann is.
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Ron Paul's problem is that the first one-third of every paragraph he says is absolutely right. The other two-thirds...

I could see Paul making a great vice president. He would have pretty much the ultimate sounding board to get his thoughts into the public discussion without actually being able to harpoon the country in the process.

Imagine a Huntsman/Paul ticket. Paul as the mouthpiece and Huntsman the rational thinker turning his thoughts into workable solutions. I'd vote for that in a heartbeat.
 
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Rover said:
Yikes. Everybody, and that's every single person, who's poor is that way because they're lazy.
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This is a pervasive attitude among the neo-Social-Darwinists, which is a group that appears to include a large chunk of the GOP.
 
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So Herman's out. And for the wrong reason. With only one exception in my lifetime, the presidency is not and should not be an entry level position. And that applies to people I know (a little) and like and those I don't. Despite his charm, Herman has some yawning gaps in his knowledge of very important matters.

Collectively, these allegations have an odor about them that's hard to avoid. Remember, one of the first two babes asserted, through her lawyer, that she wanted to tell her side of the story but her deal with Godfather's prevented it. Godfather's released her from the agreement and she STILL wouldn't come forward, claiming (again through her lawyer) that she didn't want to give up her privacy, or something. Perhaps she shouldn't have hired a lawyer. Perhaps, having hired a lawyer, she should have instructed him to say that under no circumstances would she have anything to say publicly about this subject. Instead, she and her lawyer chose to smear Cain, without having her credibility examined.

This last claim is a little more difficult to explain, given that Cain admits to having supported the lady financially for some time, without his wife's knowledge. Of one thing I am convinced, if this most recent allegation hadn't gotten Herman out of the race, there would have been others. I suspect but can't prove that David Axelrod has played a significant role in coordinating the roll out of the charges. That doesn't mean they aren't true, just that the ladies have had some professional guidance in telling their stories.

It's too bad Herman's out for another reason. Given that we've already elected our first African American president, he could have had a killer bumper sticker: This time, let's get it right.
 
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Old Pio said:
. That doesn't mean they aren't true, just that the ladies have had some professional guidance in telling their stories.
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Anyone who doesn't believe that hasn't been paying attention to politics in the US
 
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Fill in the blanks:

"For the second year in a row, the _________ will be hosting our holiday event at the stunning cliff-side estate of ____ and _____, longtime supporters of ________ candidates and causes. Guests last year were wowed by incredible architecture, panoramic views, food and drink, and tours of the ______ art collection. We are delighted to be working with them and the _______ club again. Ticket price included hors d'oeuvres, beer and wine, and non-alcoholic beverages. Proceeds will help _____ prepare for next year's elections."
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If you don't want to guess, go here
 
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Remember when George Will was talking up Phil Gramm's chances for President in '96? I think he has the same chances with Huntsman.

Old Pio while I generally agree with your analysis on Cain I really don't think Axelrod has anything to do with this. Why would he? If you're the Dems, you want Cain/Paul/Bachmann as the nominee. Cain is so far out of his depth on foreign policy he makes Sarah Palin look knowledgable and his organization in key states was non existent. I will add this: Given the troubles in the country right now, any viable GOP contender should be leading Obama in the polls by single digits. Then once the general election starts and they get softened up they'd come back down to Earth. Cain, like Romney and the rest, are still polling below Obama, and that's before he unleashes the dogs on them, backed up with 100M bucks of negative advertising. How much upside do these people really have?

Having said all that, Romney is about to win the Al Gore Memorial Award for a politician who needlessly blows a race that is gift wrapped for him.
 
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Rover said:
Having said all that, Romney is about to win the Al Gore Memorial Award for a politician who needlessly blows a race that is gift wrapped for him.
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If Romney wins the nomination then I don't think he wins that award, even if he loses the general -- I think it will be close, and if he loses the reason isn't so much on him as on the GOP base. The award he is dangerously in line for is the Hillary Clinton Memorial Award for a politician needlessly blowing a nomination that is gift wrapped for him. I can't believe Newt doesn't hit his Self Destruct button before South Carolina, but if he does win the nomination, good Lord, we could be looking at a 60-40 popular vote in November (although the GOP could run a broken toaster and still win 100 EV, so it won;t be as embarrassing as Goldwater).
 
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joecct said:
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If you don't want to guess, go here
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How is it possible for a democratic supporter to have that much money if profits are bad, capital gains are bad, holding onto your money is bad etc.?? I think that article is a fraud. ;)
 
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