2011 NHL Playoffs IV: Rome is Burning

[Bomber]

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On the Boston Garden Crowd:

The Good: Chanting "Luooongo, Luoongo" deep into the 3rd period. I also liked the "We Want the Cup" chant 'cause it sounded a bit like "BC sucks"

The Bad: Chanting "Flopper" when Raymond was down.

If the Bruins win in OT tomorrow it will be the first time in Stanley Cup history that the winning team's only lead in the series was on their last shot.
If the Canucks win 1-0 tomorrow it will tie for the lowest goal total for a Stanley Cup winner (9) You have to go back over 30 years for the last time that happened.

If the Canucks win this series: Holy 1960 World Series Batman.

8:20 tomorrow can't get here soon enough.

 

[Chickens@NU]

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The first one was on the D for giving Boston the room to snipe it. Can't really fault Luongo when it's top shelf.

Yes and no. He didn't even try to save it. He shrugged his shoulder at it. He looked like a duck flapping his arm. First glance, the Mrs. and I said what a heck of a shot by Marchmont. Looking at the replay, You have to give Luongo as much credit for that one as he didn't even make a decent attempt to save it. The D was bad, but all around, he should have made a better attempt at saving that.

 

[Bomber]

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Yes and no. He didn't even try to save it. He shrugged his shoulder at it. He looked like a duck flapping his arm. First glance, the Mrs. and I said what a heck of a shot by Marchmont. Looking at the replay, You have to give Luongo as much credit for that one as he didn't even make a decent attempt to save it. The D was bad, but all around, he should have made a better attempt at saving that.

But at least he was in the paint.

 

[unh_hockey]

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Yeah, But Vancouver has struggled to score the entire series. Thomas has a .945 sv% on the road and a .962 sv% overall. That's a lot different than Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde over there who has a .979 sv% at home and a .773 sv% on the road. He clearly gets frazzled. One softie and you can see the sweater begin to unravel. We have to wait and see who shows up. Go B's!

true,which is why history will not get to the bruins have have played well in all 6 games IMO. vancouver looks mediocre with a few flashes of brilliance, and some puck luck. hate to say it, and I am not trying to sound like sour grapes, but I think this series has been *that* close. This is an epic game 7.

 

[amherstblackbear]

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They have thomas figured out and have managed to get the east/west down low pass or rebound to try and get it behind him.

They definitely have "shoot behind the net and score on the rebound" down. Thankfully the puck was bouncing or Sedin (whichever one it was) had a gimme.

Maybe Boston should chew up the ice to either side of Thomas's net at the start of each period.

 

[J.D.]

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i want to hear "touchdown cory!!"

Come on mookie, you can do better than that...

As for the guy saying he thinks the Boychuk hit on Raymond was a "pretty major penalty"...there's a reason the announcers didn't really talk about it. Unfortunate for Raymond, but I didn't see any malice in that at all.

 

[Priceless]

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Lost in the whining coming from Vancouver about the Boychuk hit on Mason Raymond is the fact that the training staff from the Canucks let a guy with a fractured vertebrate skate off the ice and walk to the dressing room. It's a wonder he isn't paralyzed. If there was even the most remote chance of there being something screwed up with his spine he should have been stretched off. Maybe after they've taken the Bruins and the NHL to task, the Canuck fans can ask what the hell the medical staff was thinking.

 

[joecct]

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On the Boston Garden Crowd:

The Good: Chanting "Luooongo, Luoongo" deep into the 3rd period. I also liked the "We Want the Cup" chant 'cause it sounded a bit like "BC sucks"

The Bad: Chanting "Flopper" when Raymond was down.

If the Bruins win in OT tomorrow it will be the first time in Stanley Cup history that the winning team's only lead in the series was on their last shot.
If the Canucks win 1-0 tomorrow it will tie for the lowest goal total for a Stanley Cup winner (9) You have to go back over 30 years for the last time that happened.

If the Canucks win this series: Holy 1960 World Series Batman.

8:20 tomorrow can't get here soon enough.

Sounds like Bomber was on the Boston Globe chat last night.

 

[joecct]

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Regardless of what happens on Wednesday night...Thomas for Conn Smythe, as far as I'm concerned. The guy is in the zone, and he's bound to give the Bruins a good shot at winning Game 7 and the Cup, if they can just put the *ing puck in the net at Rogers.

Agreed that TT is a lock, UNLESS he sieves out in game 7. Then who the heck knows.

 

[bronconick]

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Agreed that TT is a lock, UNLESS he sieves out in game 7. Then who the heck knows.

My theory is that it's Thomas unless Vancouver wins 4/5/6-1 and Henrik or Daniel Sedin goes buck wild. Henrik is 3-19-22, Daniels 10-10-20. If either had a 2g-3a type of night, the sum of it might be enough.

Giguere won despite giving up 6 goals in game 5 and Brodeur having 3 shutouts in the final.

 

[SteveP]

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I don't think it would have been noticed as much (if at all) as it didn't look vicious at first glance. However, I do still think it's a penalty. A case could be made either way for a major, but it's definitely a minor penalty and you can pick one of a few options (hook, interference, boarding.)

I think the lateness of the actual hit is what could bring it in to the major category.

I agree there should have been a penalty and there probably should have been a review by the NHL.

To some extent, it's much the same case as in the Rome on Horton incident. As Mike Murphy said, it was the lateness of the hit (estimated to be about a half-second) that warranted the suspension.

Q. Without speculating too much, had that hit occurred quicker, a split second after he released it, would that hit have been deemed legal under Rule 48?

MIKE MURPHY: This has nothing to do with Rule 48. This is just an interference penalty, an interference hit. If it was immediate after he released the puck, it would be a legal hit. We have them all the time.

 

[Chickens@NU]

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I agree there should have been a penalty and there probably should have been a review by the NHL.

To some extent, it's much the same case as in the Rome on Horton incident. As Mike Murphy said, it was the lateness of the hit (estimated to be about a half-second) that warranted the suspension.

Even using your quote from Murphy, and the definition of a late hit or interference, I don't see any of it. I see that they were trying for the puck and they both missed it because of the way they played each other at that moment. And here is Mike Murphy's take on the "hit"...

"[It was an] awkward collusion between two players battling for space/room," Murphy wrote. "[You] rarely see a player bumped when in the position Raymond was in (bent over forward)."

 

[NMU8405]

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Even using your quote from Murphy, and the definition of a late hit or interference, I don't see any of it. I see that they were trying for the puck and they both missed it because of the way they played each other at that moment. And here is Mike Murphy's take on the "hit"...

I agree, both players canceled each other out. The refs have let a lot of interference go this playoff series, and this falls into that category. Could it have been interference? Yes. But at that juncture of the game its just not going to get called and I dont think any of the players would want a game called that tightly. Also, Im just going to throw this out there, I think a lot of the diving as done by other Vancouver players may have played into it not being called.

 

[bronconick]

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It's hard to call it late because the puck was between his legs when they got entangled. No one touched it, and the puck left the area and the two guys went into the boards. That happens dozens of times a night. What doesn't happen is Raymond falling awkwardly and going back first into the boards like that.

 

[SteveP]

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I agree, both players canceled each other out. The refs have let a lot of interference go this playoff series, and this falls into that category. Could it have been interference? Yes. But at that juncture of the game its just not going to get called and I dont think any of the players would want a game called that tightly. Also, Im just going to throw this out there, I think a lot of the diving as done by other Vancouver players may have played into it not being called.

No argument from me on that issue. And yes, the players don't want the game called that tightly. Frankly, neither do the men in the striped shirts.

How sweet would it be to see something like this on Thursday morning?

OK, except for the B's with the 1!

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Agreed that TT is a lock, UNLESS he sieves out in game 7. Then who the heck knows.

My theory is that it's Thomas unless Vancouver wins 4/5/6-1 and Henrik or Daniel Sedin goes buck wild. Henrik is 3-19-22, Daniels 10-10-20. If either had a 2g-3a type of night, the sum of it might be enough.

Giguere won despite giving up 6 goals in game 5 and Brodeur having 3 shutouts in the final.

Don't forget about Kesler. Yeah he hasn't had the greatest final, but he was their main man and a big reason why they got here after the first three rounds.

If he puts a game winner in or has a two-goal performance his name should certainly be in there.

 

[UNH GH]

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Pictures from last night:

Oh and I made it onto Garden HDX last night, for the first time ever. 13 games at the Garden in the last two years, and I finally make it onto the Jumbotron.

 

[Bomber]

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Sounds like Bomber was on the Boston Globe chat last night.

Nope.

The garden crowd being classless was my own observation. Picked up the other stats this morning and heard someone mention the 1960 WS a few days ago.

 

[UNH GH]

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Nope.

The garden crowd being classless was my own observation. Picked up the other stats this morning and heard someone mention the 1960 WS a few days ago.

Coming from someone who was there...nobody knew what happened, and were focused on what was being shown on the Jumbotron.

I never heard the Diver chant...it must've been a small portion of the crowd.

 

[state of hockey]

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That's why I don't boo until I know what happened, regardless if other players have been diving or not. You just never know. If the dingus comes out for the next shift, give 'em hell.