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2011-2012: WCHA Predictions - Summer Edition

Re: 2011-2012: WCHA Predictions - Summer Edition

goldy_331 said:
Scoring 8 a game?
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For whatever reason, this made me look at some stats that I had compiled, specifically about the last 10 years of the WCHA. It has absolutely nothing to do with predictions, but I found it interesting. I was looking at scoring offense/defense and how the league as a whole has changed, even in the past 10 years.

Anyway, here are a bunch of stats that I found interesting...

The league average for goals has been on an uptick of late. The league "bottomed out" offensively during the 2007-2008 season, putting up 701 goals in conference play, or an average of 2.50 goals/game. This past season, 963 goals were scored, or an average of 2.87 goals/game. In 2001-2002, the league average was 3.30 goals/game.

Colorado College in 2002-2003 was the most impressive offensive team in the WCHA over the last decade. The Tigers scored 125 goals in conference play, and scored 33.5 more goals than the average team did that season. North Dakota in 2003-2004 and 2010-2011 had very close numbers, putting up 122 goals (32.5 goals above the average) in 2003-2004 and 112 goals in 2010-2011, 31.75 goals above the average. No other team had more than 30 goals above the average in a season, although Duluth in 2003-2004 came the closest scoring 119 goals (29.5 goals above the average).

The best defensive team of the past ten years was the 2001-2002 Denver Pioneers. They allowed 63 goals, which was 29.5 goals below the average. The 2007-2008 CC Tigers allowed only 52 goals, which was 18.1 goals below the average. In 2003-2004, North Dakota and Wisconsin put up stellar defensive seasons, allowing only 62 goals, which was 27.5 goals below the average.

On average, the best offensive team of this past decade was North Dakota. The Sioux averaged 97.8 goals/season, which was approximately 14.5 goals above the average. Minnesota was second at 94.5 goals/season, while Denver was third with 93.7 goals/season.

The Sioux were equally as impressive defensively, as they were allowed only 71.2 goals/season on average, approximately 12 goals below the average. Wisconsin came in second allowing 72.4 goals/season on average and CC came in third at 73.7 goals/season.

As for the Gophers specifically, things may be looking up. This past season, Minnesota posted its best numbers since their 2006-2007 MacNaughton and Broadmoor winning team. The Gophers scored nearly 11 more goals than the average, and allowed slightly over 2 fewer goals than average. Those numbers compare favorably with the 2003-2004 season, which saw the Gophers score 11 more goals than average, and allowed 3.5 fewer goals than average.

If you are interested in more of the stats, or for your team specifically, just let me know.
 
Re: 2011-2012: WCHA Predictions - Summer Edition

Fighting Sioux 23 said:
The league average for goals has been on an uptick of late. The league "bottomed out" offensively during the 2007-2008 season, putting up 701 goals in conference play, or an average of 2.50 goals/game. This past season, 963 goals were scored, or an average of 2.87 goals/game. In 2001-2002, the league average was 3.30 goals/game.
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The last few Tech teams can largely account for your alleged uptick. :p

Actually, I believe that WCHA refs started calling a few more obstruction penalties a few seasons ago. Generally, more penalties leads to more powerplay goals.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
For whatever reason, this made me look at some stats that I had compiled, specifically about the last 10 years of the WCHA. It has absolutely nothing to do with predictions, but I found it interesting. I was looking at scoring offense/defense and how the league as a whole has changed, even in the past 10 years.

Anyway, here are a bunch of stats that I found interesting...

The league average for goals has been on an uptick of late. The league "bottomed out" offensively during the 2007-2008 season, putting up 701 goals in conference play, or an average of 2.50 goals/game. This past season, 963 goals were scored, or an average of 2.87 goals/game. In 2001-2002, the league average was 3.30 goals/game.

Colorado College in 2002-2003 was the most impressive offensive team in the WCHA over the last decade. The Tigers scored 125 goals in conference play, and scored 33.5 more goals than the average team did that season. North Dakota in 2003-2004 and 2010-2011 had very close numbers, putting up 122 goals (32.5 goals above the average) in 2003-2004 and 112 goals in 2010-2011, 31.75 goals above the average. No other team had more than 30 goals above the average in a season, although Duluth in 2003-2004 came the closest scoring 119 goals (29.5 goals above the average).

The best defensive team of the past ten years was the 2001-2002 Denver Pioneers. They allowed 63 goals, which was 29.5 goals below the average. The 2007-2008 CC Tigers allowed only 52 goals, which was 18.1 goals below the average. In 2003-2004, North Dakota and Wisconsin put up stellar defensive seasons, allowing only 62 goals, which was 27.5 goals below the average.

On average, the best offensive team of this past decade was North Dakota. The Sioux averaged 97.8 goals/season, which was approximately 14.5 goals above the average. Minnesota was second at 94.5 goals/season, while Denver was third with 93.7 goals/season.

The Sioux were equally as impressive defensively, as they were allowed only 71.2 goals/season on average, approximately 12 goals below the average. Wisconsin came in second allowing 72.4 goals/season on average and CC came in third at 73.7 goals/season.

As for the Gophers specifically, things may be looking up. This past season, Minnesota posted its best numbers since their 2006-2007 MacNaughton and Broadmoor winning team. The Gophers scored nearly 11 more goals than the average, and allowed slightly over 2 fewer goals than average. Those numbers compare favorably with the 2003-2004 season, which saw the Gophers score 11 more goals than average, and allowed 3.5 fewer goals than average.

If you are interested in more of the stats, or for your team specifically, just let me know.
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Interesting stuff man. Thanks for putting this together!
 
Re: 2011-2012: WCHA Predictions - Summer Edition

How I think it will end up:

1. DU
2. UMD
3. UND
4. UNO
5.CC
6.Minn
7, Wisconsin
8. Alaska
9. MN St
10. St Cloud
11. Bemidji
12. Mich Tech

How I hope it finishes:

1. Minn
2. Minn St.
3. UMD
4. Bemidji
5. St Cloud
6. Michigan Tech
7. CC
8. Denver
9. AA
10. UNO
11. UND
12. Wisconsin
 
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mngopherguy said:
How I think it will end up:

1. DU
2. UMD
3. UND
4. UNO
5.CC
6.Minn
7, Wisconsin
8. Alaska
9. MN St
10. St Cloud
11. Bemidji
12. Mich Tech

How I hope it finishes:

1. Minn
2. Minn St.
3. UMD
4. Bemidji
5. St Cloud
6. Michigan Tech
7. CC
8. Denver
9. AA
10. UNO
11. UND
12. Wisconsin
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I would have UND and Wisconsin tied for last place. otherwise, perfect.
 
Re: 2011-2012: WCHA Predictions - Summer Edition

mngopherguy said:
How I think it will end up:

1. DU
2. UMD
3. UND
4. UNO
5.CC
6.Minn
7, Wisconsin
8. Alaska
9. MN St
10. St Cloud
11. Bemidji
12. Mich Tech

How I hope it finishes:

1. Minn
2. Minn St.
3. UMD
4. Bemidji
5. St Cloud
6. Michigan Tech
7. CC
8. Denver
9. AA
10. UNO
11. UND
12. Wisconsin
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Even Mankato homers don't have them that high.
 
Re: 2011-2012: WCHA Predictions - Summer Edition

1. DU or CC depending who wins the head 2 head games and injuries I foresee both running away from the pack
3. NorDak top of the second tier
4. UMD
5. UNO
6. Minnesota no way they are going to not get home ice 2 years in a row
7. Wisconsin could make a great first round series
8. St. Cloud
9. Bemidji
10. UAA
11. Tech
12. Mankato
 
Re: 2011-2012: WCHA Predictions - Summer Edition

DenverGoldJersey said:
1. DU or CC depending who wins the head 2 head games and injuries I foresee both running away from the pack
3. NorDak top of the second tier
4. UMD
5. UNO
6. Minnesota no way they are going to not get home ice 2 years in a row
7. Wisconsin could make a great first round series
8. St. Cloud
9. Bemidji
10. UAA
11. Tech
12. Mankato
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Especially if you mean this year... hard to do something two years in a row when you didn't the first year. They hosted Anchorage.
 
Re: 2011-2012: WCHA Predictions - Summer Edition

SCSU Euro said:
Especially if you mean this year... hard to do something two years in a row when you didn't the first year. They hosted Anchorage.
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Yeah, that one confused me too.....

Too bad they played as if they were on the road:(:mad:
 
Re: 2011-2012: WCHA Predictions - Summer Edition

I predict that in 2 years, the WCHA will change. I further predict that UND, UMD, UNO, CC, Denver, an Miami of Ohio will form what they think is a super conference. Furthermore, I believe that the Big Ten will form their own conference, known as "the little 6".
 
Re: 2011-2012: WCHA Predictions - Summer Edition

Here are my feeble predictions. These will probably be way off, but a guy can dream, right?

1) Denver - Stacked team. Goaltending worries me a bit, but when you're stacked it isn't that big of a deal.

2) North Dakota - They still have it, but they won't be finishing first this year.

3) Colorado College - It will be a dogfight for the top three between these three teams. Defense worries me a bit, but if Joe Howe plays well and Schwarz continues to light the lamp, they'll be fine.

4) Duluth - They're still a good team, just not as good as they were before.

5) Omaha - Talented team with a good coach. Could end up finishing higher.

6) UAA - This will be the team that shocks everybody. A strong class of incoming freshmen will solve their scoring problems and good goaltending from Gunderson and Kamal will carry these guys far. Did I mention Shyiak is a good coach?

7) Wisconsin - It will be these guys, UAA, Minnesota, and St. Cloud duking it out for the six seed. They have a chance, but I think UAA will steal it from these guys.

8) Minnesota - Continues to get weaker and weaker every year. Don't expect a return to the glory days anytime soon gopher fans.

9) St. Cloud - They'll challenge for home ice with Minnesota, UAA, and Wisconsin, but I think they'll fall short. They're always a team to watch in the playoffs though.

10) Bemidji - This team will be a doormat with a thorn in it. Expect these guys to finish low, but cause everyone problems.

11) Tech - Mel Pearson will get the Huskies out of the basement, but they still have a long way to go.

12) Mankato - Defense worries me. 'Nuff said.
 
Re: 2011-2012: WCHA Predictions - Summer Edition

Getting excited for this season.

1)Denver- too much talent to be elsewhere.
2)Duluth- confidence, experience, talent.
3)Wisc- (its going to happen) Schultz, talented freshman, solid all around.
4)N.Dakota- Its ND, lost some key players, but they are always stacked.
5)Minn- Inconsistent/unproven offense, but the D's good enough to carry them if they can be "good enough" in the net. Its about time they get better.
6)Neb.Omah- They will do better, I just am not a huge fan.
7)C.College- (Im going to get a lot of s*** for this pick) I know they have A LOT of talent, I just think that they will disappoint in the end.
8)Anchorage- They are getting better, but so are the other teams...
9)St. Cloud (only because I dont see these other teams doing anything productive this year)
10/11/12- Bemidji, Mich. Tech, Mankato (All need a lot of work)

Dont tear me apart too badly for this.
 
Re: 2011-2012: WCHA Predictions - Summer Edition

seawolffan said:
9) St. Cloud - They'll challenge for home ice with Minnesota, UAA, and Wisconsin, but I think they'll fall short. They're always a team to watch in the playoffs though.
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Wait...what? Put down the bong junior. ;)
 
Re: 2011-2012: WCHA Predictions - Summer Edition

UMDdangler said:
Getting excited for this season.
7)C.College- (Im going to get a lot of s*** for this pick) I know they have A LOT of talent, I just think that they will disappoint in the end.

Dont tear me apart too badly for this.
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Wait...what? Put down the bong junior. :rolleyes:
 
Re: 2011-2012: WCHA Predictions - Summer Edition

Skeeterman said:
I predict that in 2 years, the WCHA will change. I further predict that UND, UMD, UNO, CC, Denver, an Miami of Ohio will form what they think is a super conference. Furthermore, I believe that the Big Ten will form their own conference, known as "the little 6".
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You've got it backwards silly, the little 6 are UND, UMD, UNO, CC, Denver, an Miami of Ohio. They are the little 6 because no one has heard of them in the mainstream. The Big 10, er 12-6 for hockey is instantly recognized in the mainstream, thus BIG. Now if the little 6 ever get thier own cable channel, then I'd bump them up to the medium 6, provided their channel isn't buried in the non-sports sections of the cable channels.
 
Re: 2011-2012: WCHA Predictions - Summer Edition

Skeeterman said:
I predict that in 2 years, the WCHA will change. I further predict that UND, UMD, UNO, CC, Denver, an Miami of Ohio will form what they think is a super conference. Furthermore, I believe that the Big Ten will form their own conference, known as "the little 6".
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Way to prove your jealousy, Skeeterman. "What they think is a superconference"? Yeah, having all 6 teams finish in the top 15 in the rankings last year, along with 17 National Championships, is definitely going to be an overrated conference. God, you guys can't just get over that we didn't want you.
 
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