2011-12 MN Gophers Season Thread Pt II: Still Full Of Pride!

[HoosierBBall_GopherHockey]

Re: 2011-12 MN Gophers Season Thread Pt II: Still Full Of Pride!

No, I'm saying its been nearly a decade. Time to deliver a title or we find someone who can.

A Bears/Mets/Montreal/UNLV/Miami fan talking about lack of recent titles? That's rich. I wanted Lucia gone after the end of last season. I never have tasted better crow in my life after this season (which, btw, isn't even over yet).

 

[burd]

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Meh. 2 titles in 13 years isn't exactly a stellar run.

If your critereon is national titles, 2 in 13 is far better than the previous 0 in 22. He's good.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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They were in the field...there were people putting out scenarios where they wouldnt be in the field but I dont remember a point where they were out even after being swept by Denver. UND, Denver and CC were the bubble teams in February Minnesota and Duluth were in pretty much from the word go.

Pretty sure that's wrong. But I'll have to find it and that will take a bit and I don't have time right now.

 

[Bakunin]

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Clearly, Handy just wants to be a dick about an argument made nearly two months ago with which he disagreed and apparently didn't understand.

Here it is - again - for those that care to read it and actually understand it so that this out of context BS can be put to a stop (*remember* this argument was made about two months ago):
- I stated this season's WCHA was on par with the previous year's ECAC in terms of who made the NCAA's.
- The pairwise at the time had UMD #1, Denver #6 or 7, and MN #13. No other WCHA teams were top 15.
- I linked the three WCHA teams to Yale, Union, and RPI; Yale was the #1 overall, Union was a #2 seed, and RPI was a #4 seed in the previous year's tournament.

Now what exactly is wrong with that argument? Saying the WCHA got four teams into the tourney has no bearing on it; the case was made when the pairwise didn't show four WCHA teams in the field. Furthermore, I'm not the type to say a conference will only send ___ teams into the tournament more than a month away from selection Sunday. I know full well how volatile the system is, and in this case, I felt like making what I believed to be an interesting observation regarding the similarities between a pair of conferences not often linked when it comes to strength/depth.

Take issue with it if you like but at least be honest about it.

 

[Hammy]

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I am shocked! SHOCKED!

Yeah, I am not sorry Lammy and Blood had their college career ended by our team. That will stick with them.

As you know, the irony of Blood is one week he is taunting the Gopher bench as his team is winning, then the next week he is whining about the Gophers wearing their regional winning hats in the hand shake line. What a baby.

 

[burd]

Re: 2011-12 MN Gophers Season Thread Pt II: Still Full Of Pride!

Clearly, Handy just wants to be a dick about an argument made nearly two months ago with which he disagreed and apparently didn't understand.

Here it is - again - for those that care to read it and actually understand it so that this out of context BS can be put to a stop (*remember* this argument was made about two months ago):
- I stated this season's WCHA was on par with the previous year's ECAC in terms of who made the NCAA's.
- The pairwise at the time had UMD #1, Denver #6 or 7, and MN #13. No other WCHA teams were top 15.
- I linked the three WCHA teams to Yale, Union, and RPI; Yale was the #1 overall, Union was a #2 seed, and RPI was a #4 seed in the previous year's tournament.

Now what exactly is wrong with that argument? Saying the WCHA got four teams into the tourney has no bearing on it; the case was made when the pairwise didn't show four WCHA teams in the field. Furthermore, I'm not the type to say a conference will only send ___ teams into the tournament more than a month away from selection Sunday. I know full well how volatile the system is, and in this case, I felt like making what I believed to be an interesting observation regarding the similarities between a pair of conferences not often linked when it comes to strength/depth.

Take issue with it if you like but at least be honest about it.

Sounds reasonable enough, but you have to remember that context is everything. Gopher fans have been so full of sh!!! for so long that everything they is, and should be, questioned.

And it will be getting worse.

 

[JDUBBS1280]

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<a href="http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/2012/03/sioux-close-out-season-with-loss-to.html?m=1">Per Goon</A>: <i>"Congrats to the seniors, Ben Blood, Brad Eidsness and Mario Lamoureux I have enjoyed watching you play for four years at UND. All three are <b>character guys</b> and will be successful in whatever they do in life."</i>

I find it absolutely unfathomable that this guy could possibly believe 90% of the stuff he writes. To call Blood and Lammy "character guys" (regardless of how big of a homer you are) is absolutely laughable.

 

[Bronzebacks]

I thought the Gophs restraint was great. Earlier in the season...you go after em. Now...keep youre eyes on the prize.

What did Starman say after it happened? Lam is one of the smartest players I've ever seen play?

He did. That guy was terrible all game. He was also talking about how skilled Boyd was after his tip. it was nice tip. But the guy just blabbed to hear his own voice. He was even giving his medical history on his blown disks. Dude sucks.

I will be watching for lamey to get his *** kicked all over in the ECHL. That's assuming a team would even take a flyer on that idiot.

Way to Gophers! Nice to end these green pukes season and send them back to ****ville. Or whioxville. Or whatever you want to call it.

 

[cg_siouxfan]

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Jesus, you guys are brutal.

 

[Slap Shot]

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Some nice looks at the goal scoring by the Gophers. Condon had hot wheels on his breakaway...wow.

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Yeah, but I'm told he wouldn't even make SCSU's 3rd line.

That is good hard nosed Whioux hockey...I bet Lammy got extra scholarship money for it.

Blood got his A back so he could take a cheap and throw his broken stick toward the Gophers at the end of the game, Brock Nelson tried to goon it up at the end if Kristo hadn't quit with 10 minutes left in the 3rd I'm sure he'd have taken a run at Rua.

But enough with UND (btw, I do give them credit for what they did this year I cannot deny) it's onto BC in a game the Gophers clearly have no chance to win. I think Bakunin, Scooby and dryfly should watch the game together.

 

[Bakunin]

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I think Bakunin, Scooby and dryfly should watch the game together.

Clearly, you are not familiar with the art of sandbagging.

And who the **** is "dryfly"?

 

[Slap Shot]

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Clearly, you are not familiar with the art of sandbagging.

I am familiar with it and don't call me Clearly.

 

[HoosierBBall_GopherHockey]

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Clearly, you are not familiar with the art of sandbagging.

And who the **** is "dryfly"?

One of the resident wet blankets on GPL.

 

[Hammy]

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Yeah, but I'm told he wouldn't even make SCSU's 3rd line.

At worst, Condon would be a 2nd liner on SCSU.

 

[Handyman]

Re: 2011-12 MN Gophers Season Thread Pt II: Still Full Of Pride!

Clearly, Handy just wants to be a dick about an argument made nearly two months ago with which he disagreed and apparently didn't understand.

Here it is - again - for those that care to read it and actually understand it so that this out of context BS can be put to a stop (*remember* this argument was made about two months ago):
- I stated this season's WCHA was on par with the previous year's ECAC in terms of who made the NCAA's.
- The pairwise at the time had UMD #1, Denver #6 or 7, and MN #13. No other WCHA teams were top 15.
- I linked the three WCHA teams to Yale, Union, and RPI; Yale was the #1 overall, Union was a #2 seed, and RPI was a #4 seed in the previous year's tournament.

Now what exactly is wrong with that argument? Saying the WCHA got four teams into the tourney has no bearing on it; the case was made when the pairwise didn't show four WCHA teams in the field. Furthermore, I'm not the type to say a conference will only send ___ teams into the tournament more than a month away from selection Sunday. I know full well how volatile the system is, and in this case, I felt like making what I believed to be an interesting observation regarding the similarities between a pair of conferences not often linked when it comes to strength/depth.

Take issue with it if you like but at least be honest about it.

And I was saying making that comparison in February is ludicrous and the final PWR pretty much bore that out. You guys were looking for any way to show that the Gophers were not as good as their standing was either because you were sandbagging or you were chicken$h!&. The argument made you sound more like SCCC fans than Gopher fans and I will rub it in your face for the rest of the year because you jumped the gun and were proven wrong. Not only was the WCHA better than the EZAC used to be (not now as Spinny Doo tried to change the argument to) but they were way better than the formulas had them at when you chicken littled all over the place about it. 3 teams in the final 8...yeah that is pretty cruddy

The Gophers were one of the 4 best teams in hockey...deal with it

 

[Handyman]

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Clearly, you are not familiar with the art of sandbagging.

And who the **** is "dryfly"?

A guy on GPL who with two weeks to go and the Gophers odds on favorite to win the MacNaughton was still wetting himself that they might not make the tourny.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: 2011-12 MN Gophers Season Thread Pt II: Still Full Of Pride!

And I was saying making that comparison in February is ludicrous and the final PWR pretty much bore that out. You guys were looking for any way to show that the Gophers were not as good as their standing was either because you were sandbagging or you were chicken$h!&. The argument made you sound more like SCCC fans than Gopher fans and I will rub it in your face for the rest of the year because you jumped the gun and were proven wrong. Not only was the WCHA better than the EZAC used to be (not now as Spinny Doo tried to change the argument to) but they were way better than the formulas had them at when you chicken littled all over the place about it. 3 teams in the final 8...yeah that is pretty cruddy

The Gophers were one of the 4 best teams in hockey...deal with it

Thank you, Harley.

 

[5mn_Major]

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Seems we is a supreme undee dog on the Froz4 thread. This game is a pickem in my book with the gophs having the best talent in the country (which does include boston). The team needs to kick butt and get on the board early though.

 

[Bakunin]

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The argument made you sound more like SCCC fans than Gopher fans and I will rub it in your face for the rest of the year because you jumped the gun and were proven wrong.

It was an argument based on where things stood at the time. The fact the pairwise changed and UND made a run has no bearing on it. Why you can't grasp such a simple concept is beyond me. Clearly you're just out to be a dick toward those who hold opinions contrary to your own - not that I'm at all surprised by that.

Not only was the WCHA better than the EZAC used to be (not now as Spinny Doo tried to change the argument to) but they were way better than the formulas had them at when you chicken littled all over the place about it.

Your characterization of what I was doing is way off base. Scooby is well known for always seeing the negative, but my perspective is far different from his. In this particular case, I saw a pattern that looked familiar in the pairwise, looked back at last year's and confirmed it / commented on it. To Minnesota and North Dakota's credit, both picked up their play after that point. It also helped that some teams above them began flaming out (aka Lowell dropping from 4th to nearly out of the tournament).

3 teams in the final 8...yeah that is pretty cruddy

Without UND's ridiculous and improbable run, that would not have been the case. They could very easily have gone the way of CC.

The Gophers were one of the 4 best teams in hockey...deal with it

They were 8th best by the ratings system used to select and seed the field. Fortunately for them, they played well enough to win both games and advance. Should they do it a couple more times, we'll all be laughing about these mindless arguments in a couple weeks.

 

[HarleyMC]

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It was an argument based on where things stood at the time.

Just chiming in here...I agree with your statement Bak and your analysis at the time was correct. There's nothing wrong with posting what appears to be a statistical correlation at some juncture in the season and commenting on it. Now Scoobymutt that's a different story.

Thank you, Harley.

You're welcome dog.