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2009 MLB Thread, Part II: Claimed Off The Waiver Wire

Re: 2009 MLB Thread, Part II: Claimed Off The Waiver Wire

Joe D served in the war.
Mantle got hurt/drunk.
Gehrig got sick.
Ruth pitched a while early in his career.

plus babe and mick took a lot of walks....

but early on too, who cared how many you finished with?? y'all recall Mick saying in a drunken stupor one night how everyone was making a big deal of 40/40, he coulda done that every year if he gave a chit.:p


teddy ballgame doesn't have 3000 hits either. and he played over 4 decades!:eek: :p 1939-1960
 
Re: 2009 MLB Thread, Part II: Claimed Off The Waiver Wire

Well sure, Ruth pitched but he also hit then too. :D

Mick was too happy partying after games and boozin' with the boys to care about the records. Added to that is the knee injury he had really early in his career that screwed with him. His story is really sad and its scary to think what he could've done to baseball records.
 
Re: 2009 MLB Thread, Part II: Claimed Off The Waiver Wire

No.

Look closely at Ted Williams. He missed over 4 1/2 years, in the prime of his career, serving in both WWII and Korea. Imagine what he would have done. :eek:

See for yourself

Conservatively, figure 35 homers a year from 1943-45, plus at least another 55 homers total from 1952-53. His totals go from 521 into the neighborhood of at least 680-700, depending on how conservative you want to be. He'd be #4 on the all-time list.

Now look at his hit totals. 180 hits/yr for 1943-45, plus ~ 275 for his lost year and a half (plus more) in Korea. The new hit total now approaches 3,500. Right now only 5 players have more than 3,500 hits (Rose, Cobb, Aaron, Musial, Speaker).

RBI's: same thing. 120/year for the WWII years, plus ~ 150 more total for the time spent in Korea. You're around 2,350, good for #1 on the all time list.

Now put that together. .344 average, 680 HR, 2,350 RBI, 3,500 H. The only hitter that approaches those numbers wore #3 in Yankee Stadium. And then figure in what would have happened had Ruth not spent the majority of his first six seasons as a pitcher, even in the dead ball era. He might still be the all-time home run king. He essential hit his homers over a 16-year period (688 homers between 1919-1934, the years where he played full-time in the field).
 
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GreatLakerMohawk said:
That should make tickets especially awful to get.
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probably, unless you plan very early. They're also at home on Sunday and Monday, so staying later is possible (and who doesn't want to stay in Detroit an extra day??? :)) The park is GORGEOUS and definitely worth a visit.
 
Re: 2009 MLB Thread, Part II: Claimed Off The Waiver Wire

My reaction to seeing the highlights of the Yanks-Jays "fight" on SportsCenter:

I just cannot see another basebrawl and still have respect for baseball players. People hitting from behind, grabbing equipment and pulling on each other, ganging up on each other... its all very cowardly. There are many who criticize hockey for the fighting, but one cannot deny that more than 99% of the time, a hockey fight is a gentlemanly, sportsmanlike battle between two men. They tend to sqaure up and fight without sucker punches, treat each other with respect when they get hurt and when its done, its done.

But you see a fight in baseball, and you just see a bunch of cowards who think its okay to swing at a guy from behind or grab him while he's trying to fight someone else. If you're gonna lose your cool, at least have some honor in doing so. I can respect someone who just runs away (like Greeny?) more than some of those jokers.

I would even venture to add that if Posada and Carlson had just squared off and had a sportsmanlike fight, it will be much more likely that the hatched is buried and the teams can just go on and finish out their series without any residual tension.

And, on a different note... I just don't understand the baseball trade "deadline". Didn't it pass like two months ago? And then there were more trades going on up until not that long ago? What's up with that?
 
Re: 2009 MLB Thread, Part II: Claimed Off The Waiver Wire

The added trades, I think, are because a team has to "risk" a player on waivers before they can trade him.

So, let's say the Twins put Scott Baker on waivers. IF no team puts in a claim, then they can trade him.

I think that is how it goes, anyway.
 
Re: 2009 MLB Thread, Part II: Claimed Off The Waiver Wire

Brenthoven said:
The added trades, I think, are because a team has to "risk" a player on waivers before they can trade him.

So, let's say the Twins put Scott Baker on waivers. IF no team puts in a claim, then they can trade him.

I think that is how it goes, anyway.
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Interesting. My only response to that.

Well, that and the same response I have when it comes to NFL rookie's salaries: the NHL does it better.
 
Re: 2009 MLB Thread, Part II: Claimed Off The Waiver Wire

ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
And, on a different note... I just don't understand the baseball trade "deadline". Didn't it pass like two months ago? And then there were more trades going on up until not that long ago? What's up with that?
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End of the July is the non-waiver trade deadline and the end of August in the waiver trade deadline.
 
Re: 2009 MLB Thread, Part II: Claimed Off The Waiver Wire

Cecil Cooper fired. :( It MIGHT be a coincidence it was right after the Brewers swept the Astros. ;)
 
Re: 2009 MLB Thread, Part II: Claimed Off The Waiver Wire

There are people here who play OOTP Baseball, right? Let me ask you a question: is it possible to quit a game without saving? I know, it's cheating, but sometimes I cheat at video games. Sue me. :p
 
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