Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Thread 2: Its all going up in flames!
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2009-2010 NHL Season Thread 2: Its all going up in flames!
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Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Thread 2: Its all going up in flames!
Elite goal scores do not have only 15 goals at the midpoint of the season.
Elite goal scores do not have only 15 goals at the midpoint of the season.
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I didn't think it was worthy of starting its own thread so I'll post it here. A Massachusetts high school team has suffered two serious injuries in back to back games. It's a strange coincidence.
Norwood shaken by on-ice injuries
I didn't think it was worthy of starting its own thread so I'll post it here. A Massachusetts high school team has suffered two serious injuries in back to back games. It's a strange coincidence.
Norwood shaken by on-ice injuries
Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Thread 2: Its all going up in flames!
Like those Neely-Lucic comparisons?
I remember hearing all kinds of buzz about the guy, then one Carolina player (Walker) took out two Bruins for the rest of the series last year and he was still around to score the game winning goal in OT of game 7. That told me all I needed to know about Lucic.
Like those Neely-Lucic comparisons?
I remember hearing all kinds of buzz about the guy, then one Carolina player (Walker) took out two Bruins for the rest of the series last year and he was still around to score the game winning goal in OT of game 7. That told me all I needed to know about Lucic.Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Thread 2: Its all going up in flames!
He scored 36 goals last season as a 21-year old. There was only two other players his age that had at least 32 goals in the NHL last year. Both captained their teams to the Conference Finals, and one won a Cup.
I can understand the defense of the trade, and it may certainly work out to favor the Bruins with the looming first-round draft choices (certainly looks like this year's picks will be outstanding given Toronto's performance), but they'll be fortunate to find a kid with those picks to do the things that Kessel was already doing. Players that hit the back of the net 35+ times a season, which he has the potential to be (at the low end) are hard to find. The Krecji's and Lucic's of the world are not.
Sometimes they do when they miss all of training camp and are the only legitimate Top-3 forward on their team. And he'd still be tied for the Bruins team lead.
He scored 36 goals last season as a 21-year old. There was only two other players his age that had at least 32 goals in the NHL last year. Both captained their teams to the Conference Finals, and one won a Cup.
I can understand the defense of the trade, and it may certainly work out to favor the Bruins with the looming first-round draft choices (certainly looks like this year's picks will be outstanding given Toronto's performance), but they'll be fortunate to find a kid with those picks to do the things that Kessel was already doing. Players that hit the back of the net 35+ times a season, which he has the potential to be (at the low end) are hard to find. The Krecji's and Lucic's of the world are not.
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No they don't. The two you mentioned not only exceeded his total, but obliterated it. Don't get me wrong, he is a good young player, but a long way from being considered and elite player.
No they don't. The two you mentioned not only exceeded his total, but obliterated it. Don't get me wrong, he is a good young player, but a long way from being considered and elite player.
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Kessel: 35g
Toews: 34g
Crosby: 33g
You must be thinking of two different players than I am.
Kessel: 35g
Toews: 34g
Crosby: 33g
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My bad, you are correct.
My bad, you are correct.
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Yeah, those were the comparisons. Neely would've been a mad-man and ripped Walker's head off and then scored two or three goals the following game to rub his face in it.
The Kessel thing is like the elephant in the room now for a lot of B's fans. The Bruins desperately need a goal scorer and they dealt one away because they opted to give a ton of money to guys like Krejci, Lucic and Derek Morris. Lots of them are indignant and continue to proclaim they don't need him and then whine uncontrollably about the lack of scorers. You can't have it both ways.
Like kennedy said, it might work out if they get a franchise guy with Toronto's pick in the draft, but if they play hardball with Atlanta (like is rumored) and won't give up that pick for Ilya Kovalchuk (who actually is better than Phil Kessel and is worth every bit of money) then Chiarelli doesn't know what he's doing and Rover will be proven right again about how things are being run there.
Like those Neely-Lucic comparisons?
Yeah, those were the comparisons. Neely would've been a mad-man and ripped Walker's head off and then scored two or three goals the following game to rub his face in it.
The Kessel thing is like the elephant in the room now for a lot of B's fans. The Bruins desperately need a goal scorer and they dealt one away because they opted to give a ton of money to guys like Krejci, Lucic and Derek Morris. Lots of them are indignant and continue to proclaim they don't need him and then whine uncontrollably about the lack of scorers. You can't have it both ways.
Like kennedy said, it might work out if they get a franchise guy with Toronto's pick in the draft, but if they play hardball with Atlanta (like is rumored) and won't give up that pick for Ilya Kovalchuk (who actually is better than Phil Kessel and is worth every bit of money) then Chiarelli doesn't know what he's doing and Rover will be proven right again about how things are being run there.
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Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Thread 2: Its all going up in flames!
Ya know, at this point in the game, seeing how well the "Scrubs" are doing in John Anderson's system in ATL, I would be more than happy to see Kovalchuk dealt for at least three NHL Now guys and one AHL now, will be NHL'er (like Abdelkater or Helm in GR/DET). Get this "rebuilding" over with and dump the remains of Hartley Holdovers.
Along with Kovalchuk, I'd be willing to deal Sterling and Kulda to sweeten the pot, both AHL guys who are overrated and not going to make it in the NHL (under ATL's system).
Kovalchuk is a defensive liability with JA's "Everyone plays forward, everyone plays D" style.
Ya know, at this point in the game, seeing how well the "Scrubs" are doing in John Anderson's system in ATL, I would be more than happy to see Kovalchuk dealt for at least three NHL Now guys and one AHL now, will be NHL'er (like Abdelkater or Helm in GR/DET). Get this "rebuilding" over with and dump the remains of Hartley Holdovers.
Along with Kovalchuk, I'd be willing to deal Sterling and Kulda to sweeten the pot, both AHL guys who are overrated and not going to make it in the NHL (under ATL's system).
Kovalchuk is a defensive liability with JA's "Everyone plays forward, everyone plays D" style.
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So Vancouver is hot with a six game winning streak right now. Tomorrow night they begin a 14 game road trip with the Olympics sandwiched in between. Their next home game isn't until March 13th. Hopefully this will ruin their season and the Avs can take the division.
So Vancouver is hot with a six game winning streak right now. Tomorrow night they begin a 14 game road trip with the Olympics sandwiched in between. Their next home game isn't until March 13th. Hopefully this will ruin their season and the Avs can take the division.
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Like most everyone else, I'm curious to see how the Kovalchuk situation plays out, but I'll be a bit surprised if he brings in 3 NHL now guys. One could argue that Hossa is a more complete player (I'll make that case), and we saw what Atlanta got for him in a similar situation. I just can't see GM's around the league eager to help Waddell out on this one; he's basically screwed. Additionally, there's not really a lot of teams that have the ability to take him on from a salary/cap space/prospects perspective; even if only for the rest of the year. That being said, I'm guessing he'll go to Los Angeles.
Like most everyone else, I'm curious to see how the Kovalchuk situation plays out, but I'll be a bit surprised if he brings in 3 NHL now guys. One could argue that Hossa is a more complete player (I'll make that case), and we saw what Atlanta got for him in a similar situation. I just can't see GM's around the league eager to help Waddell out on this one; he's basically screwed. Additionally, there's not really a lot of teams that have the ability to take him on from a salary/cap space/prospects perspective; even if only for the rest of the year. That being said, I'm guessing he'll go to Los Angeles.
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Mike Green of the Caps got a three game suspension for this elbow Florida's Michael Frolik. Green has no history of suspensions and for as much as I yell about the Wheel of Justice, the punishment fits the crime here. That's a straight up cheap-shot.
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Mike Green of the Caps got a three game suspension for this elbow Florida's Michael Frolik. Green has no history of suspensions and for as much as I yell about the Wheel of Justice, the punishment fits the crime here. That's a straight up cheap-shot.
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Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Thread 2: Its all going up in flames!
Don't get me started. After a game at the Gahden (sigh) where the B's were humiliated by the Blackhawks, the dominant conversation was how Luccic wasn't "killing" people. Nevermind the lack of defense and the fact that the team was displaying Pooley/Armyesque level of offense. This is the kind of idiocy I usually see coming from people at Fenway wearing pink hats.
Don't get me started. After a game at the Gahden (sigh) where the B's were humiliated by the Blackhawks, the dominant conversation was how Luccic wasn't "killing" people. Nevermind the lack of defense and the fact that the team was displaying Pooley/Armyesque level of offense. This is the kind of idiocy I usually see coming from people at Fenway wearing pink hats.
OvahInDovah
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Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Thread 2: Its all going up in flames!
Phaneuf traded to Toronto, details to follow....
(odd)
Phaneuf dealt to Leafs
Phaneuf traded to Toronto, details to follow....
(odd)
Phaneuf dealt to Leafs
OvahInDovah
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Re: 2009-2010 NHL Season Thread 2: Its all going up in flames!
According to Dreger's twitter, could be a multi-player, multi-team deal.
Now Dreger says:
Anyone think that JS Giguere may wind up back in Toronto?
Edit: yep....
http://ducks.freedomblogging.com/2010/01/31/giguere-on-the-way-to-toronto/28545/
So, we have Phaneuf to Toronto for ????, and Giguere to Toronto for Toskala & ????.
Obviously need to see how the rest of this shakes out...but Toronto is taking on some serious salary with these two moves; and I have no idea why they need another overpaid defensemen.
According to Dreger's twitter, could be a multi-player, multi-team deal.
Now Dreger says:
Anyone think that JS Giguere may wind up back in Toronto?
Edit: yep....
http://ducks.freedomblogging.com/2010/01/31/giguere-on-the-way-to-toronto/28545/
So, we have Phaneuf to Toronto for ????, and Giguere to Toronto for Toskala & ????.
Obviously need to see how the rest of this shakes out...but Toronto is taking on some serious salary with these two moves; and I have no idea why they need another overpaid defensemen.
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OvahInDovah
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Official Clagary-Toronto deal:
http://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/
Official Clagary-Toronto deal:
http://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/
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