Yale Hockey 2010

[bulldawg21]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Cornell will be sucessful against Brown for two reasons, size & goaltending. Two things that Yale lacked. Good Luck, Big Red!!

 

[BigDEli]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Cornell will be sucessful against Brown for two reasons, size & goaltending. Two things that Yale lacked. Good Luck, Big Red!!

Yale didn't lack goaltending this weekend. They gave up 7 goals in 3 games, which is not only way below their own conference gaa (3.27) but also well under Brown's gpg (2.91). They lost because they couldn't find the back of the net when they needed to. Cornell definitely matches up better with Brown than Yale does, but it's not because of Scrivens.

 

[bulldawg21]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Yale didn't lack goaltending this weekend. They gave up 7 goals in 3 games, which is not only way below their own conference gaa (3.27) but also well under Brown's gpg (2.91). They lost because they couldn't find the back of the net when they needed to. Cornell definitely matches up better with Brown than Yale does, but it's not because of Scrivens.

Do your stats take in to consideration that Brown was playing a neutral zone trap the entire weekend so as soon as they got the lead, they bunkered down and played defensive hockey? They weren't looking to score alot of goals they just wanted to hold the lead. At times there were 4 brown guys 10' in front of their own net in the slot blocking shots.


I don't care what the stats say. Did you see that first goal that Yale gave up on Friday? Brown shot it from the red line. -unacceptable

Last night's goal he was beaten on the SHORT side! -also unacceptable....

Cornell had great goaltending Yale's goaltending is average at best. Scrivens IS the best goalie in the ECAC. Regardless of what the stats say.

 

[Boola]

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The shorthanded goal last night was awful, stayed too far back in the net and didnt cut down the angle at all. I was actually suprised coach stuck with Blase all weekend.
I knew we were going to miss Backman, I dont think I realized just how much we were going to miss him.

 

[BigDEli]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Do your stats take in to consideration that Brown was playing a neutral zone trap the entire weekend so as soon as they got the lead, they bunkered down and played defensive hockey? They weren't looking to score alot of goals they just wanted to hold the lead. At times there were 4 brown guys 10' in front of their own net in the slot blocking shots.


I don't care what the stats say. Did you see that first goal that Yale gave up on Friday? Brown shot it from the red line. -unacceptable

Last night's goal he was beaten on the SHORT side! -also unacceptable....

Cornell had great goaltending Yale's goaltending is average at best. Scrivens IS the best goalie in the ECAC. Regardless of what the stats say.

I never argued that Scrivens wasn't the best goalie in the ECAC. He is. Nor did i say that Yale got better goaltending than Brown over the course of the 3 games. What I argued was that goaltending didn't cost Yale the series, and it didn't. Yale is a team built around scoring goals, and on Friday and Sunday the team didn't get it done offensively, period. Yale scored 14 goals in 2 regular season games against Brown, and couldn't find a way to get the goals they needed on Friday or Sunday. When you lead the country in scoring offense and then manage 2 on Friday and none on Sunday (against the 11-seed no less), blaming your goaltending is shortsighted. That Brown would trap or try to protect a lead isn't a shock... what's a shock is that they got away with it.

Yes, Blase gave up a couple he wants back, but so did Clemente Saturday night, and I don't think anyone from Brown is complaining about he played.

If I told anyone who knows this team that beforehand that Brown would score 7 goals in 3 games, every single person would have said Yale would win the series...The bottom line is that based on the two teams and their strengths and weaknesses, Blase did enough to win the series and was let down by his offense.

 

[klumpmypants]

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I know a lot of people here think they actually should root for Cornell to help Yale's chances of making the NCAAs so that one of the other three teams doesn't take away an at-large bid, but Yale as I already said is a virtual lock for the tournament. If you read Jayson Moy's blog, you see how unlikely the scenario is that gets them out.

Yale actually has a better chance of still becoming a 2 seed in the NCAA tourney. And that would require Cornell not winning both games in Albany.

We really won't know where Yale is going until all is said and done. Even if we can pretty much predict the #1 seeds and where Yale will finish in the PWR given certain results, other results will effect other seeds and the no first-round intra-conference matchup rule could come into play. If Yale is a 2 seed it will be the #8 overall most likely, meaning it would be in the #1 overall seeds regional unless as I said teams get flipped. That team will most likely be Denver or Miami. If it's Miami, Yale is in Fort Wayne. If it's Denver, they could go to Albany per the committee's "a flight is a flight rule," meaning Denver would have to fly to St. Paul anyway so make them fly to ALbany because Wisco can drive to St. Paul.

That is all assuming BC remains the last #1 seed. If that becomes either UND or SCSU, Denver will definitely come east.

This is the scenario we want:

BC loses to UVM in Hockey East Semis.
Cornell loses to Brown and loses or ties consolation(doesn't matter to who).
Northern Michigan beats Ferris State in CCHA semis, then both lose in the consolation/championship to Miami/Michigan.
Denver wins at least once in St. Paul.
Either North Dakota or SCSU wins at least once in St. Paul.

Really the most unlikely of these things is Cornell losing twice or going 0-1-1. So let's go Brown.

 

[klumpmypants]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Are their any students on here that can shed more light on the whole pool incident?

 

[LTsatch]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Not a student, but, only rumor I have heard is he fell off a diving board into an empty pool.

 

[yaledoc]

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Are their any students on here that can shed more light on the whole pool incident?

Dear Jason;

To use a legal term that I KNOW you will understand, this
entire matter is MOOT. Trying to re-circulate a private matter among a
cadre of gossip-mongers serves no justifiable purpose. As a future lawyer, I am sure
that you will recall from Legal Ethics that we lawyers MUST be able to keep
a secret. In my own five-plus decades on the planet, I can think of many things that I've said or done that I wish I had NOT. I am sure that if you reflect back on your own personal history, you can SURELY empathize. So let's move on, and let's ALL wish Sean a speedy recovery. Enjoy your new
role as college hockey's Nostradamus, and join us on that last Monday in May
on the Old Campus to congratulate Sean on winning the William Neely Mallory
Award, and then we can ALL quote from Vergil's Aeneid and say:
Forsan et haec, olim memenisse iuvabit.

 

[licwinko]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Are their any students on here that can shed more light on the whole pool incident?

POSSESSION of information doesn't mean that it should be shared.
OF course, we all want to know what happened, but Sean's privacy and
POTential career must be respected. Once something is reported, it never goes away.

 

[vicb]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

..and join us on that last Monday in May
on the Old Campus to congratulate Sean on winning the William Neely Mallory
Award, and then we can ALL quote from Vergil's Aeneid and say:
Forsan et haec, olim memenisse iuvabit.

Translation: W T F were you doing and where were your brains?

 

[Kepler]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Cornell will be sucessful against Brown for two reasons, size & goaltending. Two things that Yale lacked. Good Luck, Big Red!!

Then again, for lacking them Yale sure took care of us.

I expect the Cornell-Brown game to be hitting, checking, hitting, defense... maybe some hitting. It will be close -- this is not the Brown team Cornell dispatched early in the year, and they are playing with maximum confidence with a white hot goalie.

 

[Wholin1]

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How do Yale fans feel about whether Backman should be ECAC player of the year?

 

[yaledoc]

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How do Yale fans feel about whether Backman should be ECAC player of the year?

A fair question. Some proof that I am NOT an unmitigated
"homer", and with all due respect to Sean for a great 4-year career,
MY Yale nominee would have been Broc Little. Choosing among Little,
Polacek, and Scrivens, in turn, is a VERY tough task. All are terrific
players with very bright futures ON and OFF the ice. All 3 are legitimate
Hobey "final ten" candidates.

 

[BigDEli]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

How do Yale fans feel about whether Backman should be ECAC player of the year?

I don't recall if the award is supposed to be based on conference performance only, or overall performance, but in my mind I've always considered it a 22-game award so I agree with yaledoc that Little is Yale's best nominee, so to speak.

As to whether either Little or Backman should win, I would have to say neither. I think both had great years and would be deserving, but i think the team is so deep offensively that you'd be hard pressed to pick one guy to be player of the year. Similarly, while Scrivens' numbers are light years ahead of any other goalie, you have to acknowledge the team's role in that, and rightly or wrongly he probably suffers from comparisons to recent great seasons by other Cornell goalies, not just his foes this season. Additionally, he's a mortal lock for the Dryden and First Team All-American, and there are always a small contingent of voters out there that think a goalie shouldn't win a POY award when they have their own separate category. i don't feel that way personally, but some do.

In my mind, that leave Polacek, who put up huge numbers with a talented but very young supporting cast, as the POY. It felt like he was all over the scoresheet every time I checked an RPI box score, and as a Yale fan he scares me more than Scrivens (or any other player in the league, for that matter).

 

[Wholin1]

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A fair question. Some proof that I am NOT an unmitigated
"homer", and with all due respect to Sean for a great 4-year career,
MY Yale nominee would have been Broc Little. Choosing among Little,
Polacek, and Scrivens, in turn, is a VERY tough task. All are terrific
players with very bright futures ON and OFF the ice. All 3 are legitimate
Hobey "final ten" candidates.

Doc,

I haven't seen Yale this season except once at Union, but I tend to agree with you. Statistically at least it seems that Little had somewhat better production but I also realize their are intangibles that go into judging the body of work. Of course I feel that Union's MVT got jobbed out of the first team ECAC and could have been an MVP candidate, but that's grist for another mill, and all 3 really had spectacular seasons. Chase Polacek was extraordinary this year, but I have a feeling the award is going to be Scrivens'.

 

[klumpmypants]

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Dear Jason;

To use a legal term that I KNOW you will understand, this
entire matter is MOOT. Trying to re-circulate a private matter among a
cadre of gossip-mongers serves no justifiable purpose. As a future lawyer, I am sure
that you will recall from Legal Ethics that we lawyers MUST be able to keep
a secret. In my own five-plus decades on the planet, I can think of many things that I've said or done that I wish I had NOT. I am sure that if you reflect back on your own personal history, you can SURELY empathize. So let's move on, and let's ALL wish Sean a speedy recovery. Enjoy your new
role as college hockey's Nostradamus, and join us on that last Monday in May
on the Old Campus to congratulate Sean on winning the William Neely Mallory
Award, and then we can ALL quote from Vergil's Aeneid and say:
Forsan et haec, olim memenisse iuvabit.

Are you really a doctor and a lawyer because that is impressive. No sarcasm. While I will have a JD one day, I will not be a lawyer. And as of right now, I am acting as a reporter. I am not Sean's doctor or lawyer, thus not bound by any confidentiality. And yes, it is because of my own history that I didn't really press into this as a reporter, pretty much just followed the news as it broke. Truthfully, my real interest is in how the Yale athletic dept. tried to act like nothing happened when they knew the PD was involved. I wish Sean nothing but the best. I have been with USCHO since January; I have been a Yale fan since I was 8 years old sitting in aisle 10, row H, seat 16. I am just trying to do my job here.

And really the matter is not moot. Nor am I re-circulating, as the matter is not closed. There is an ongoing investigation, confirmed by me, being conducted by the Yale PD into the incident. And it has been reported that other players were involved, not by me. But I won't press it here nor am I really looking to invade anyone's privacy. For example, Yale makes every student's phone number and address a matter of public record. It would not be unethical at all for me to call them as a reporter. But as someone who is nine credits from a law degree, I know that if I was their lawyer, I would tell them not to discuss it with anyone. Therefore, I would never call them. Also, they are college kids. It would be inappropriate.

Obviously my personal history, well one small part of it, is a matter of public record. All the more evidence that just because you do something you wish you hadn't, and just because you don't want everyone to know about it, doesn't mean it isn't news.

POSSESSION of information doesn't mean that it should be shared.
OF course, we all want to know what happened, but Sean's privacy and
POTential career must be respected. Once something is reported, it never goes away.

The innuendo in this post completely contradicts the point you are trying to make. Obviously no reporter respected my privacy or considered my career. If I ever go anywhere in this field, I am going to try and hold myself to a higher standard. But really, I don't have any connections yet. So if I find something out, that means a lot of people know it already.

Translation: W T F were you doing and where were your brains?

Do we really need to talk about this? I never hurt anyone guys. I made a mistake. Forgot what else was in my bag from being away for the weekend. End of story. I put all the people I care about through embarassment, have been out of school since January of last year, and am trying to establish myself again doing something I am good at. I had to spend thousands of dollars, do countless hours of community service (which I continue to do now anyway even though I don't have to because I love animals and well, I have the free time). If you don't like what I have to say about college hockey, that is one thing.

But to bring up my past indiscretions, whether directly or indirectly, because I dare to care about a current news item, not only as a fan but because it is my job, is a little childish. I am ashamed at how stupid it makes me look, but it's out there so I am not afraid to talk about it.

 

[klumpmypants]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

And honestly, I only posted that because no one had even commented on the PWR analysis I had done. I am much more interested in talking about that.

When I talk about the possibilities for this season, no one is interested. When I ask a question about rumor, everyone gets involved. I guess I wanted to draw attention to my more noteworthy post because I was disappointed no one cared that Yale still had that chance.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

A fair question. Some proof that I am NOT an unmitigated
"homer", and with all due respect to Sean for a great 4-year career,
MY Yale nominee would have been Broc Little. Choosing among Little,
Polacek, and Scrivens, in turn, is a VERY tough task. All are terrific
players with very bright futures ON and OFF the ice. All 3 are legitimate
Hobey "final ten" candidates.

I'd choose Backman as "most valuable," though. It isn't necessarily the best or flashiest player (that would be a toss-up between Polacek and Little), it's, well, the most valuable. Backman was clearly the key opponent we faced all year, and the one guy we had (and failed) to contain in order to win. He's a game-changing force like Hamilton, Kaufmann and Wood were. That's why it's killing Yale to be without him.

 

[bothman]

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I'd choose Backman as "most valuable," though. It isn't necessarily the best or flashiest player (that would be a toss-up between Polacek and Little), it's, well, the most valuable. Backman was clearly the key opponent we faced all year, and the one guy we had (and failed) to contain in order to win. He's a game-changing force like Hamilton, Kaufmann and Wood were. That's why it's killing Yale to be without him.

Totally agee and would add Higgins to that list of Yale greats as well!