Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

[Dirty]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

I mean, should we count your impressive home and home with Robert Morris this year in your tally?

Let's talk about when you play LEGIT opponents, when the games actually MATTER OK?

You can't skate with the top Eastern teams - just a fact.

And Yale, BC & BU will be waiting again this year - with their teams pretty much intact...

Best of luck.

When your team beats an Eastern club (something Yale hasn't done in the NCAA's since well ever? I got tired of looking after going back to like 1960.)...then we'll talk about your supposed "top tier" program...

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

I mean, for the record:

Niagara had 9 wins last year.
Merrimack was unranked & got smoked at Badger, which Yale beat Ferris & dominated Wisconsin.
Harvard had 9 wins the year before.
Northeastern lost in quarters of Hockey East in 2007-08.

Let me try this again.

UND has not beaten a RANKED team IN THE TOURNEY - other than Princeton - after which they got SMOKED 6-1 by BC - since the '06 tourney.

And PLEASE don't bring up Holy Cross (that year's RIT)...

And let me destroy your new point...

Wins versus ranked teams in the tournament by North Dakota since 2006

2006:
#19 Holy Cross
#11 Michigan

2007:
#8 Michigan
#2 Minnesota

2008:
#17 Wisconsin (@ their home rink by the way)
#13 Princeton



That's six smileys for the six wins over ranked teams in the NCAA Tournament since 2006.

I win

(1 sarcastic chuckle for Yale's 1 NCAA win in the past 50+ years...care to look at UND's record in the NCAA tournament in the past 50 years??? Didn't think so.)

 

[Yale86]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

I find it funny that a Yale fan is on here knocking about playing LEGIT opponents

You must have forgotten that North Dakota has the highest winning percentage in the history of the NCAA Tournament. I think we know how to play when it actually matters

Since the 2000 NCAA Tournament, our record against "Eastern Clubs" in the NCAA Tournament is 8-6...not too shabby, especially when you consider that 4 of those losses came against the best team of the last decade. 6-2 when we take BC out of that equation.

Yale, on the other hand, has won 1 NCAA game in 50 years.

Jeez, here we go - I said 5 years, let's not go back to ancient history OK?

East has come on in the LAST 5 YEARS - including THIS YEAR - BEFORE that, it was the West.

05 tourney: beat BU & BC, lost in final.
06 tourney: beat HC (NOT a top tier East team) & lost to BC.
07 tourney: lost to BC.
08 tourney: beat Princeton (again, not in Yale, BC, BU class - good goalie, but not a very good team), lost to BC.
09 tourney: lost to UNH (6 goals!)
10 tourney: lost to Yale.

Like I said, ONE victory since East clubs (BC, BU, Yale) adopted a speed, skill oriented game - NOT the 1 AA goalie, aka Cornell or Princeton, NOT an Atlantic or CHA team...but a LEGIT skating TEAM.

I mean, it's like Yankee fans - SO WHAT that your team has great HIS-TO-RY...that's FINE.

BUT TIMES CHANGE - AND THE GAME HAS SHIFTED TO THE EAST COAST - as it will again play out this year.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

Jeez, here we go - I said 5 years, let's not go back to ancient history OK?

East has come on in the LAST 5 YEARS - including THIS YEAR - BEFORE that, it was the West.

05 tourney: beat BU & BC, lost in final.
06 tourney: beat HC (NOT a top tier East team) & lost to BC.
07 tourney: lost to BC.
08 tourney: beat Princeton (again, not in Yale, BC, BU class - good goalie, but not a very good team), lost to BC.
09 tourney: lost to UNH (6 goals!)
10 tourney: lost to Yale.

Like I said, ONE victory since East clubs (BC, BU, Yale) adopted a speed, skill oriented game - NOT the 1 AA goalie, aka Cornell or Princeton, NOT an Atlantic or CHA team...but a LEGIT skating TEAM.

I mean, it's like Yankee fans - SO WHAT that your team has great HIS-TO-RY...that's FINE.

BUT TIMES CHANGE - AND THE GAME HAS SHIFTED TO THE EAST COAST - as it will again play out this year.

???? Are you high? (see bolded from YOUR quote)

Yale is not an elite team. Get over it. If you go out and win it all this year, then we can talk...but winning 1 NCAA game in 50 years does NOT make an elite team. I'm sorry. You knock Holy Cross but they've accomplished the EXACT SAME THING as Yale.

 

[Yale86]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

And let me destroy your new point...

Wins versus ranked teams in the tournament by North Dakota since 2006

2006:
#19 Holy Cross
#11 Michigan

2007:
#8 Michigan
#2 Minnesota

2008:
#17 Wisconsin (@ their home rink by the way)
#13 Princeton



That's six smileys for the six wins over ranked teams in the NCAA Tournament since 2006.

I win

(1 sarcastic chuckle for Yale's 1 NCAA win in the past 50+ years...care to look at UND's record in the NCAA tournament in the past 50 years??? Didn't think so.)

Holy Cross at 19 is not legit.

Princeton I gave you.

The rest are WEST clubs - which AS I SAID - is playing with yourself.

OTHER than Princeton at #13 (which had Kalemba in goal & not much else), the EAST ranked club you beat IS?!?

I watch A LOT of hockey - EAST AND WEST - and you haven't beaten a BC, BU, Yale type opponent since '04.

Again, Yankee fans always trot out 26 rings, but since 2004, the score is Red Sox 2, Yankees 1 (and the Yanks HAVEN'T beaten the Sox in the playoffs).

College hockey, the score is EAST 5, UND 1 - and if you take out the Princeton (again, not good offense / skaters) win, against the type of teams that are ON TOP IN THE EAST NOW - they haven't won.

End of discussion.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

Holy Cross at 19 is not legit.

Princeton I gave you.

The rest are WEST clubs - which AS I SAID - is playing with yourself.

OTHER than Princeton at #13 (which had Kalemba in goal & not much else), the EAST ranked club you beat IS?!?

I watch A LOT of hockey - EAST AND WEST - and you haven't beaten a BC, BU, Yale type opponent since '04.

Again, Yankee fans always trot out 26 rings, but since 2004, the score is Red Sox 2, Yankees 1 (and the Yanks HAVEN'T beaten the Sox in the playoffs).

College hockey, the score is EAST 5, UND 1 - and if you take out the Princeton (again, not good offense / skaters) win, against the type of teams that are ON TOP IN THE EAST NOW - they haven't won.

End of discussion.

I don't care about the Yankees.

Holy Cross has accomplished the exact same thing as Yale. Deal with it. You are in the same class as Holy Cross. If you manage to do something this year, then we can put you slightly ahead of Holy Cross. Until then, don't put yourself in the same class as Boston College. That's an insult to BC.

 

[Yale86]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

???? Are you high? (see bolded from YOUR quote)

Yale is not an elite team. Get over it. If you go out and win it all this year, then we can talk...but winning 1 NCAA game in 50 years does NOT make an elite team. I'm sorry. You knock Holy Cross but they've accomplished the EXACT SAME THING as Yale.

I GET that we haven't won anything (except vs. UND last year in the tourney)...but the team is 100% legit...COULD win a title...and the program is restocking with QUALITY players - very fast skaters.

I took $100 off my neighbor - the UND alum - before the game last year.

And if UND plays Yale, BU or BC in the tourney this year - I'll be happy to place an even larger wager with any of you...

 

[Yale86]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

I don't care about the Yankees.

Holy Cross has accomplished the exact same thing as Yale. Deal with it. You are in the same class as Holy Cross. If you manage to do something this year, then we can put you slightly ahead of Holy Cross. Until then, don't put yourself in the same class as Boston College. That's an insult to BC.

We scored 7 on them last year in the final - Wisconsin got 1.

Again, not talking about HIS-TO-RY, talking about talent, speed, and this year's team.

They're getting there - and when they do - they'll be there for a while.

Teams like yours - West teams - living on their reps right now.

Better skaters are in the East and that will be bourne out again.

 

[Yale86]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

I don't care about the Yankees.

Holy Cross has accomplished the exact same thing as Yale. Deal with it. You are in the same class as Holy Cross. If you manage to do something this year, then we can put you slightly ahead of Holy Cross. Until then, don't put yourself in the same class as Boston College. That's an insult to BC.

In NO WAY would I compare us with BC - or UND for that matter - in terms of what they've accomplished in the past.

I'm talking about the present - WATCH this team - as I have yours - and tell me what you think.

THAT'S the discussion.

 

[Dirty]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

So if you're talking about the present and not HIS-TO-RY, why do you keep talking about what UND has done in the last five years?

Trolling isn't as easy as it looks and you're not doing a very good job at it. Keep your argument straight.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

I GET that we haven't won anything (except vs. UND last year in the tourney)...but the team is 100% legit...COULD win a title...and the program is restocking with QUALITY players - very fast skaters.

I took $100 off my neighbor - the UND alum - before the game last year.

And if UND plays Yale, BU or BC in the tourney this year - I'll be happy to place an even larger wager with any of you...

I love you how lump Yale with BU and BC. Yale is NOT in the same class as either of those teams. You have to earn that right. Having a pedigree similar to Holy Cross (a team you've discredited several times) isn't being in that class.

Also, you said in a previous post that UND hasn't beaten a "BC, BU, Yale type oppoenent since '04".

We beat BC and BU back to back out east in the '05 NCAA Tournament. Both games were blowouts and never close.

We also beat Yale in the '04 season 10-0 and 8-4.

At the end of the day, Yale outplayed North Dakota last year. They deserved the win. Saying that, you are comparing 1 NCAA win to 4 National Titles between BC and BU in the last 10 years. It's not the same. If you don't know that by now, I can't help you.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

So if you're not talking about HIS-TO-RY, why do you keep talking about what UND has done in the last five years?

This guy is all over the place.

Apparently if we would have beaten Yale last year that wouldn't have counted as they are similar to Holy Cross, who also doesn't count. Princeton barely counts, but that's only because he's being generous. Any and all Western teams do not count...because that's like masturbation.

There is no logic.

 

[JW Tigers]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

Yale86, Your team is 1-1 against the west this season, if you are keeping track. And neither of the teams Yale played are exactly the class of the west.

 

[Eaglefan06]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

A Yale fan talking trash about North Dakota like Yale is BC? Please shut up dude. UND is ten times the program Yale is.

 

[LTsatch]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

Holy Cross has accomplished the exact same thing as Yale. Deal with it. You are in the same class as Holy Cross. If you manage to do something this year, then we can put you slightly ahead of Holy Cross.

We OWN Holy Cross this year

 

[willythekid]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

We OWN Holy Cross this year

Hang a banner...

 

[Bullitt]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

I've lost so much respect for the NCAA over the years. How 'bout the story of the Air Force player who took too many classes while playing junior hockey and the NCAA ruled in ineligible for his last year at AF. The story is unbelievable...being punished for taking too many classes! Appeal filed and community college counselor admitted she gave the wrong info and the NCAA still say's no! http://www.gazette.com/sports/wright-55153-hockey-ncaa.html

 

[YalePuck]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

I am a longtime, loyal Yale fan but we need to keep a perspective here. As others have said on another thread, and as I think most Yale fans believe, this is a special time for Yale hockey - never-before-seen-type-stuff . . . and I do believe we have the talent and depth to make some noise in March and April . . . but lets not get too far ahead of ourselves and compare ourselves to BU, BC, UND or any number of programs who who have a history, and are regular Top 10 teams nearly every year. This is fun, and I think it could be more than just a flash in the pan, but, really, trash talking UND, BC, BU and others makes us look silly . . .

 

[YalePuck]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

Forgot to mention that the point of this thread is silly too - Cahill was, is, and always has been eligible. Never in doubt, though Yale did the smart thing by sitting him out against Dartmouth on the day that the complaint was made (to be sure that there was no new info about which they were not aware . . . which there was not). And he's also having a heckuva year.

And I'll also say this: it seems Yale has officially arrived on the national scene, because I have never seen this much vitriol, jealousy, anger, etc toward the program - ever. Despite what I said above, it has been fascinating to see people come out of the woodwork to criticize Yale, Coach Allain, the ECAC, the schedule, etc. I recall the old days when there was a Yale thread that - aside from 4-5 regular posters (TTNorm) - no one paid any attention to.

 

[The Rube]

Re: Yale: Cheating their way to #1?

And I'll also say this: it seems Yale has officially arrived on the national scene, because I have never seen this much vitriol, jealousy, anger, etc toward the program - ever. Despite what I said above, it has been fascinating to see people come out of the woodwork to criticize Yale, Coach Allain, the ECAC, the schedule, etc. I recall the old days when there was a Yale thread that - aside from 4-5 regular posters (TTNorm) - no one paid any attention to.

It's mainly because of the loudmouth "LOOK AT US! RESPECT!" posters that have come out of the woodwork, declaring them a legit team on par with the traditional powerhouses, despite a lack of long-term postseason success. The only place they've arrived at, at this point, is in the pan, where they are but a flash.