yalehockeyfan
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Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!
So what scenarios keep yale out?
So what scenarios keep yale out?
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Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!
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ZamboniDude
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Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!
Based on Pairwise Predictor it seems to be very similar to what I posted the other day, except now the ECAC game matters because Harvard made the title game. I believe this is the four-game outcome that eliminates Yale (all four required):
Big Ten Championship game: Minnesota defeats Michigan
Hockey East Championship game: Northeastern defeats Massachusetts-Lowell
NCHC Championship game: Minnesota-Duluth defeats St. Cloud State
ECAC Championship game: Quinnipiac defeats Harvard
Atlantic Hockey Championship game: Doesn't matter
NCHC Consolation game: Doesn't matter
WCHA Championship game: Doesn't matter
I've run a whole bunch of variants through the predictor and this seems to be the only one. I believe the first 3 game outcomes shown above have been required since the week started. Now, it looks like the QPac win is required as well to bounce Yale. If Harvard wins ECAC and the first 3 are true, then the Predictor indicates Yale makes it by a very thin margin. So your Yale rooting interest should include a healthy "Go Harvard" chant.
Based on Pairwise Predictor it seems to be very similar to what I posted the other day, except now the ECAC game matters because Harvard made the title game. I believe this is the four-game outcome that eliminates Yale (all four required):
Big Ten Championship game: Minnesota defeats Michigan
Hockey East Championship game: Northeastern defeats Massachusetts-Lowell
NCHC Championship game: Minnesota-Duluth defeats St. Cloud State
ECAC Championship game: Quinnipiac defeats Harvard
Atlantic Hockey Championship game: Doesn't matter
NCHC Consolation game: Doesn't matter
WCHA Championship game: Doesn't matter
I've run a whole bunch of variants through the predictor and this seems to be the only one. I believe the first 3 game outcomes shown above have been required since the week started. Now, it looks like the QPac win is required as well to bounce Yale. If Harvard wins ECAC and the first 3 are true, then the Predictor indicates Yale makes it by a very thin margin. So your Yale rooting interest should include a healthy "Go Harvard" chant.
yalehockeyfan
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Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!
So if the first three happen, even though Yale is presently ahead of Harvard in pairwise we want Harvard to win, because if they lose they pass us in Pairwise. Interesting….and nonsensical
Based on Pairwise Predictor it seems to be very similar to what I posted the other day, except now the ECAC game matters because Harvard made the title game. I believe this is the four-game outcome that eliminates Yale (all four required):
Big Ten Championship game: Minnesota defeats Michigan
Hockey East Championship game: Northeastern defeats Massachusetts-Lowell
NCHC Championship game: Minnesota-Duluth defeats St. Cloud State
ECAC Championship game: Quinnipiac defeats Harvard
Atlantic Hockey Championship game: Doesn't matter
NCHC Consolation game: Doesn't matter
WCHA Championship game: Doesn't matter
I've run a whole bunch of variants through the predictor and this seems to be the only one. I believe the first 3 game outcomes shown above have been required since the week started. Now, it looks like the QPac win is required as well to bounce Yale. If Harvard wins ECAC and the first 3 are true, then the Predictor indicates Yale makes it by a very thin margin. So your Yale rooting interest should include a healthy "Go Harvard" chant.
So if the first three happen, even though Yale is presently ahead of Harvard in pairwise we want Harvard to win, because if they lose they pass us in Pairwise. Interesting….and nonsensical
ZamboniDude
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Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!
I hadn't thought of it that way, but yeah, it's pretty nonsensical. Harvard moves ahead of Yale in PWR win or lose when you have the other 3 outcomes shown (and maybe even if you don't).
This is the link to the Harvard wins scenario with the other 3 outcomes as well: http://pwp.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-predictor/?uniq=pwp_56ecdd41a7620
It shows Yale squeaking above the line but in a dead tie with Notre Dame. Thus the predictor actually shows 17 teams in (13 above the line and 4 autos below it). I just realized that. I think this means that if the first 3 are true and Harvard wins, Yale isn't actually guaranteed, they are at the mercy of the committee.
EDIT: I realize when you click the URL, it only shows 16, because the AHA champion isn't displayed. You have to then click Show Pairwise Comparisons to see the 13/4 thing I'm talking about with the line below Yale.
I hadn't thought of it that way, but yeah, it's pretty nonsensical. Harvard moves ahead of Yale in PWR win or lose when you have the other 3 outcomes shown (and maybe even if you don't).
This is the link to the Harvard wins scenario with the other 3 outcomes as well: http://pwp.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-predictor/?uniq=pwp_56ecdd41a7620
It shows Yale squeaking above the line but in a dead tie with Notre Dame. Thus the predictor actually shows 17 teams in (13 above the line and 4 autos below it). I just realized that. I think this means that if the first 3 are true and Harvard wins, Yale isn't actually guaranteed, they are at the mercy of the committee.
EDIT: I realize when you click the URL, it only shows 16, because the AHA champion isn't displayed. You have to then click Show Pairwise Comparisons to see the 13/4 thing I'm talking about with the line below Yale.
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Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!
But that's just a mistake in the website calculator. I just realized that if that happens Yale is out, because they'll break the tie with RPI, which favors Notre Dame at that point. That means it's only a three-way event to take Yale out... Quinnipiac-Harvard doesn't matter. Anyone disagree?
But that's just a mistake in the website calculator. I just realized that if that happens Yale is out, because they'll break the tie with RPI, which favors Notre Dame at that point. That means it's only a three-way event to take Yale out... Quinnipiac-Harvard doesn't matter. Anyone disagree?
QUAlum2004
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Yup..just saw the ECAC game doesn't matter.
ZamboniDude
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That might be the case. Do we know for sure RPI is the sole tiebreak? Because if you look at the detailed comparisons, Notre Dame wins RPI, there are no head to head, and then Yale wins two: Sum of Win % and Record under the Common Opponents area.
yalehockeyfan
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So simply by playing Harvard moves past yale in pairwise. Thinking of it that way, I don't mind it. There should be reward/punishment for ecac tournament results.
I don't have a good feeling about today.
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!
This isn't two comparisons, it's just breaking out the common opponents comparison so you can see both the percentage and the record. There are three comparisons: RPI, head-to-head, and common opponents, with RPI being used to break ties.
This isn't two comparisons, it's just breaking out the common opponents comparison so you can see both the percentage and the record. There are three comparisons: RPI, head-to-head, and common opponents, with RPI being used to break ties.
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!
Harvard won't be rewarded just for playing. What's happening is that they're already ahead of us in RPI and we're winning because we bit them head-to-head. But, if Duluth moves past us that flips a comparison and puts us behind them. Oh, screw it... it's complicated and frustrating when you lose to Dartmouth.
Harvard won't be rewarded just for playing. What's happening is that they're already ahead of us in RPI and we're winning because we bit them head-to-head. But, if Duluth moves past us that flips a comparison and puts us behind them. Oh, screw it... it's complicated and frustrating when you lose to Dartmouth.
yalehockeyfan
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Will be tough not to see this team in NCAAs but given the limits Ivy places on games and the way Pairwise works, we know we simply can't afford loses like we had to Dartmouth.
FadeToBlack&Gold
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Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!
I have a question for you guys. I'll be in New Haven Sunday night to Tuesday afternoon for business with Yale. Figured I would give myself a quick tour of Ingalls at some point after 5 PM. Can I just walk in during the evening, or does the building keep specific hours?
I have a question for you guys. I'll be in New Haven Sunday night to Tuesday afternoon for business with Yale. Figured I would give myself a quick tour of Ingalls at some point after 5 PM. Can I just walk in during the evening, or does the building keep specific hours?
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!
I find that the doors are usually unlocked, so you'll likely just be able to walk in.
I find that the doors are usually unlocked, so you'll likely just be able to walk in.
yalehockeyfan
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yalehockeyfan
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Will be Umass-Lowell in first round for us.
Remains uncertain if will be in Albany vs. Worcester (I suspect Albany).
What is also certain (in addition to facing UML) is that Quinnipiac will be #1 seed in our side of bracket.
bulldog10jw
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Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!
Hopefully, not too well rested, with only two games played this month.
Hopefully, not too well rested, with only two games played this month.
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Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!
I spoke to a friend who works there, please confirm if you can do this, I will let them know.
"Dave, Usually the doors are open in front, if he wants to go on Monday afternoon after 5 Jamie will be working and will show him around, I will let Jamie know to keep an eye out for him , let me know if that works for him"
I spoke to a friend who works there, please confirm if you can do this, I will let them know.
"Dave, Usually the doors are open in front, if he wants to go on Monday afternoon after 5 Jamie will be working and will show him around, I will let Jamie know to keep an eye out for him , let me know if that works for him"