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World University Games

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Tom Coughlin

5x NCAA Champ/2x Super Bowl Champ
The Team USA roster for the World University Games was released. Several top D3 teams have two players on the roster, while Adrian has three players on the roster. Some of these teams may have additional representation on Team Canada.

It will be interesting to see the impact on these teams of being without a couple of top players for two weeks.
 
I'm utterly flabbergasted that "perennial national power" Utica does not have any representation on this team.
 
Sir Nubs said:
I'm utterly flabbergasted that "perennial national power" Utica does not have any representation on this team.
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Me too..! The Republicans clearly had a hand in that.

While we're on the topic, do SNC players dominate the roster? I haven't bothered to look that up, and I'm fairly certain that no one outside of family and friends give a flying crap either, but do tell!
 
Fishman'81 said:
Me too..! The Republicans clearly had a hand in that.

While we're on the topic, do SNC players dominate the roster? I haven't bothered to look that up, and I'm fairly certain that no one outside of family and friends give a flying crap either, but do tell!
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They have three. Two for the United States and one for Slovakia.

And again, why so angry? So, so angry...
 
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Sir Nubs said:
I'm utterly flabbergasted that "perennial national power" Utica does not have any representation on this team.
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It is fairly clear that there were multiple coaches who wouldn’t release their players to go play in a nothing-burger tournament mid season and miss games that count. This tournament is quite literally nothing
 
Fishman'81 said:
IDK... Because you've been an intrusive dick for years..?

Hard to say, but best of luck to the boys.
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Ah yes, back to the name calling. I feel bad for you, Steve. Especially when your late-evening foray into the hard stuff makes you an angry man.
 
JSicedog said:
It is fairly clear that there were multiple coaches who wouldn’t release their players to go play in a nothing-burger tournament mid season and miss games that count. This tournament is quite literally nothing
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And now we are belittling the tournament and the experience the kids who are playing in it will get because Utica doesn't have anybody.

Any coach who won't allow their players to play in an international competition of any sort really needs to check himself and tells me a lot about them without a word even having to be spoken. Don't know if that's what happened in Utica's case but if so shame on their coaching staff.
 
Sir Nubs said:
And now we are belittling the tournament and the experience the kids who are playing in it will get because Utica doesn't have anybody.

Any coach who won't allow their players to play in an international competition of any sort really needs to check himself and tells me a lot about them without a word even having to be spoken. Don't know if that's what happened in Utica's case but if so shame on their coaching staff.
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Yes shame on the coaching staff for wanting to win games instead of sending their top players to a meaningless mid-season tournament. I am sure you will be singing a different tune when StN misses out on a Pool C due to a couple losses in early January. That would be unfortunate.

You had no idea what the University Games were prior to this year, don't act like its all of a sudden a big event
 
JSicedog said:
Yes shame on the coaching staff for wanting to win games instead of sending their top players to a meaningless mid-season tournament. I am sure you will be singing a different tune when StN misses out on a Pool C due to a couple losses in early January. That would be unfortunate.

You had no idea what the University Games were prior to this year, don't act like its all of a sudden a big event
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I unequivocally trust Tim Coghlin when it comes to making decisions regarding his program. His record speaks for itself. Letting those guys go play shows why he has been as successful as he is heading into his fourth decade. Perhaps those guys will be better when they come back having played in the tournament.

Utica is playing Neumann and Lebanon Valley those two weekends. If they're worried about losing games to those two teams then they either aren't that good or the coaches aren't good enough to figure out a way to win with one or two guys missing. Not any different than guys out injured.

Maybe Beaney and Taylor went Shoeless Joe in Field of Dreams and told Ty Cobb (Heenan) to stick it. There is always that possibility too.
 
Sir Nubs said:
I unequivocally trust Tim Coghlin when it comes to making decisions regarding his program. His record speaks for itself. Letting those guys go play shows why he has been as successful as he is heading into his fourth decade. Perhaps those guys will be better when they come back having played in the tournament.

Utica is playing Neumann and Lebanon Valley those two weekends. If they're worried about losing games to those two teams then they either aren't that good or the coaches aren't good enough to figure out a way to win with one or two guys missing. Not any different than guys out injured.

Maybe Beaney and Taylor went Shoeless Joe in Field of Dreams and told Ty Cobb (Heenan) to stick it. There is always that possibility too.
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How does letting them go play show that he has been a successful coach? It's never been done before. You just made that up.

Per your second point, every game matters in a short D3 season. One or two hiccups a season goes a long way. Hence why Norbert isn't anywhere near the Pool C picture right now.

And third... is a possibility.
 
JSicedog said:
How does letting them go play show that he has been a successful coach? It's never been done before. You just made that up.

Per your second point, every game matters in a short D3 season. One or two hiccups a season goes a long way. Hence why Norbert isn't anywhere near the Pool C picture right now.

And third... is a possibility.
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Because in successful programs it is about the growth and development of young people and the quality of experience they get. Especially at the D3 level. It's what separates the real from the phony. Even in D1 coaches let guys go to World Juniors. Why? Because at the end of the day it's about giving the guys as many positive experiences possible, which goes a long way in recruiting.

Adrian has three players going to play in this tournament. They are currently in the Pool C mix as it stands. Apparently Adam Krug isn't too worried about any potential hiccups either.

I'm sure everyone who plays in this tournament will remember it much more strongly than some series against LebVal.
 
Sir Nubs said:
Because in successful programs it is about the growth and development of young people and the quality of experience they get. Especially at the D3 level. It's what separates the real from the phony. Even in D1 coaches let guys go to World Juniors. Why? Because at the end of the day it's about giving the guys as many positive experiences possible, which goes a long way in recruiting.

Adrian has three players going to play in this tournament. They are currently in the Pool C mix as it stands. Apparently Adam Krug isn't too worried about any potential hiccups either.

I'm sure everyone who plays in this tournament will remember it much more strongly than some series against LebVal.
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I agree that successful programs are about development and the quality of the experience players get but, frankly, I'm not sure the World University games registers more highly than winning your conference for either an auto bid or an at large spot. I think recruiting is based more on a school's chances of getting players a conference ring and an opportunity to go to the NCAA finals than its record of placing maybe one or two players on a University games roster. Even top teams can be tripped up by a few inopportune losses. Already it's a struggle to keep teams intact and healthy through a typical college year.
 
MELIN27 said:
I agree that successful programs are about development and the quality of the experience players get but, frankly, I'm not sure the World University games registers more highly than winning your conference for either an auto bid or an at large spot. I think recruiting is based more on a school's chances of getting players a conference ring and an opportunity to go to the NCAA finals than its record of placing maybe one or two players on a University games roster. Even top teams can be tripped up by a few inopportune losses. Already it's a struggle to keep teams intact and healthy through a typical college year.
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Your bar is set low if you're handing out rings for winning your conference.

All I know is based on the roster construction that several coaches who have won national titles - including one who has won five - are supportive of this project. I presume they know what's best.
 
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