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World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

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mookie1995 said:
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yeaterday on bein after the game they were talking about 2026 and kept saying “Mexico” (for the location)

two days ago in the world service an Arab football commentator was on talking how Qatar isn’t good and probably won’t even qualify for 2026 “in Mexico”
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How dare they forget about Canada!

Asia is getting 8 freaking spots in 2026. I’m sure Qatar can get past *checks notes* Iraq or Oman.
 
Jimjamesak said:
Because the powers that be tolerate it. The only thing stopping the referees from just passing out yellows for dissent is that fact. They want these games to finish 11 v 11. As long people keep watching, that’s all that matters.
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Start doing it in club and qualifying and it’ll clean it up for the bigger games, no?

I know at the end of the day FIFA only cares about the dollars, but their officials take the most abuse by far. All sports have their stories about officials being attacked (maybe sans volleyball, can’t recall hearing anything from that sport), but soccer is the only one that seems to have regular deaths happen from attacks on referees. And that all trickles down from the top.
 
Jimjamesak said:
How dare they forget about Canada!

Asia is getting 8 freaking spots in 2026. I’m sure Qatar can get past *checks notes* Iraq or Oman.
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CONCACAF qualifying is going to be all messed up. Six slots, but three go to the hosts. So they’re really only getting three slots this time around not counting the potential playoff winners which could give them five slots.
 
JF_Gophers said:
I can only name 6 that would possibly qualify....
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So I’ve got the usual suspects: Japan, South Korea, Australia, Saudi Arabia, Iran. Could probably add in the UAE and Qatar. After that it’s a crapshoot. China and North Korea, Iraq, Syria, maybe Kuwait or Uzbekistan.

Needless to say, 2026 is going to have some absolute laughers.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
CONCACAF qualifying is going to be all messed up. Six slots, but three go to the hosts. So they’re really only getting three slots this time around not counting the potential playoff winners which could give them five slots.
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Imagine the Oct from this year’s qualifying but no US or Mexico. CONCACAF s-housery distilled to its purest form.
 
Here is a question that ran through my mind last night, and honestly, I couldn't come up with any names.

Has there ever been a player, in any sport, in the final (championship) game of that sport, who had a better performance than Mbappe had, and lost. I'm not even a big soccer guy, and it didn't bother me to see Messi win, but I sort of felt bad for Mbappe.

It's like throwing for six touchdowns in the Super Bowl and going down hard.
 
SJHovey said:
Here is a question that ran through my mind last night, and honestly, I couldn't come up with any names.

Has there ever been a player, in any sport, in the final (championship) game of that sport, who had a better performance than Mbappe had, and lost. I'm not even a big soccer guy, and it didn't bother me to see Messi win, but I sort of felt bad for Mbappe.

It's like throwing for six touchdowns in the Super Bowl and going down hard.
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Along those lines, a question for the people who follow soccer closer than I do, as much as we were hearing about Messi being the GOAT, when all is said and done, could he have not even been the best player on the pitch yesterday, with Mbappe being there, by the time their careers are over. Given what Mbappe did last WC and how he almost pulled off something crazier this time, and he's only 23, how difficult would it be for him to eventually eclipse Messi? Granted this is only looking at WC; how do their club accomplishments stack up?
 
Has there ever been a player, in any sport, in the final (championship) game of that sport, who had a better performance than Mbappe had, and lost.
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This is a great question from a Blocked poster.

My research turns up Jerry West in the 1969 NBA Game 7.

Chuck Howley won Super Bowl V MVP, and was the first defensive player to win it, but he was playing for the Colts.

Bob May at the 2000 PGA Championship is another choice, if that counts as the championship.
 
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SJHovey said:
Here is a question that ran through my mind last night, and honestly, I couldn't come up with any names.

Has there ever been a player, in any sport, in the final (championship) game of that sport, who had a better performance than Mbappe had, and lost. I'm not even a big soccer guy, and it didn't bother me to see Messi win, but I sort of felt bad for Mbappe.

It's like throwing for six touchdowns in the Super Bowl and going down hard.
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That's a really good question. Greatest Show on Turf comes to mind. Came up a yard short IIRC. Not sure what individual performances were like.
 
SJHovey said:
Here is a question that ran through my mind last night, and honestly, I couldn't come up with any names.

Has there ever been a player, in any sport, in the final (championship) game of that sport, who had a better performance than Mbappe had, and lost. I'm not even a big soccer guy, and it didn't bother me to see Messi win, but I sort of felt bad for Mbappe.

It's like throwing for six touchdowns in the Super Bowl and going down hard.
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Not *the* finals, but Jordan scoring 63 in a 1986 playoff loss to the Celtics is up there.

Marty Barrett was batting over .400 and was poised to win the 1986 World Series MVP until that little dribbler up along first...

In game five of the 1996 World Series, John Smoltz lost 1-0 with the only run being the result of an error.
 
Allen Bourbeau had a hat trick in Harvard's 6-5 overtime loss to Michigan State in the 1986 NCAA Final.

I can't recall if it was Bourbeau or a teammate who took it in the tower on 9/11.
 
ticapnews said:
Not *the* finals, but Jordan scoring 63 in a 1986 playoff loss to the Celtics is up there.

Marty Barrett was batting over .400 and was poised to win the 1986 World Series MVP until that little dribbler up along first...

In game five of the 1996 World Series, John Smoltz lost 1-0 with the only run being the result of an error.
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Wasn't it smoltz who also lost game 7 of '91? Pitched 7.1 shutout innings and his relievers held another 1.2 innings of shutout.
 
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