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World Soccer XXVIII: Campeones de NorteAmérica.

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JF_Gophers said:
I get it, but even if you aggregate pay over whatever time you want to use (1 yr, 4 yr, etc.). Women get paid less. So good for them fighting for more.
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IMO, federations shouldn't be paying players. They should want to play for their country regardless.
 
4four4 said:
IMO, federations shouldn't be paying players. They should want to play for their country regardless.
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Your company shouldn't be paying you. You should want to work for your employer regardless.

See how stupid that sounds?
 
4four4 said:
IMO, federations shouldn't be paying players. They should want to play for their country regardless.
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England men have donated their match fees to charity for a long time. I agree with you for some of the bigger countries men’s teams, but it’s a different story for women where there isn’t much of a club setup.

For the US women I see it as more of a CBA issue. If they’ve agreed to a certain amount they should live with it until the contract is up.
 
JF_Gophers said:
I get it, but even if you aggregate pay over whatever time you want to use (1 yr, 4 yr, etc.). Women get paid less. So good for them fighting for more.
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Except the new CBA they signed in 2017 actually addressed a lot of their complaints, the bonuses increased, their per diem increased, they no longer play on turf fields etc., what f-ing “more” are they fighting for? Do they want the exact same per diem and bonus structure as the Men plus their guaranteed salary and guaranteed roster spots? If they don’t like the deal why TF did they agree to it!
 
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The big thing I always hate when this subject on the USWNT pay comes up is the instant, reflexive reaction from the press that "US Soccer should just pay them equally! US Soccer is a non-profit! Why is this an issue?!?" It is as if these people believe the sole function of the United States Soccer Federation is to simply pay the Men's and Women's National teams and that's it. The WNT players always go for the emotional appeal and the press falls for it every time.

What also comes up every time? "The Mens team sucks! They should just take their money and give it to the Women!"

:rolleyes:

The WNT players have cultivated both attitudes in the American public since 1996.
 
4four4 said:
IMO, federations shouldn't be paying players. They should want to play for their country regardless.
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Federations shouldn’t accept grants or revenue, or pay their administrators salaries. They should want to work for their country regardless.
 
LynahFan said:
So? If a Walmart employee wants to pick up a few shifts at McDonald's to make ends meet, McDonald's doesn't get to pay less based on her gender.
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This article does a great job explaining the differences https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/22/sports/soccer/usmnt-uswnt-soccer-equal-pay.html The women have a different pay structure where they don’t really have much club football. Also, the men’s World Cup generates significantly more revenue than the women’s, which is completely out of the federation’s control. I rarely defend administrators in sports, but in this situation the women are trying to pull a fast one.
 
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The lack of club football (salaries) for women makes it interesting. From that standpoint, the men are taking a much bigger risk by stepping up to play for the USMNT. A career-ending injury in an international friendly could easily cause loss of millions of dollars between club salary and endorsements. Not so for the women. So it does seem that the men's greater risk could justify greater reward. It will be quite interesting how this plays out and if that resolution sets any precedents or is an ad hoc settlement.
 
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unofan said:
Your company shouldn't be paying you. You should want to work for your employer regardless.

See how stupid that sounds?
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Do you believe USA hockey pays for Kane to play for them during the Olympics?
 
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Don’t panic, but...

MINNESOTA UNITED IS TOP OF THE LEAGUE!

:D
 
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4four4 said:
IMO, federations shouldn't be paying players. They should want to play for their country regardless.
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thats bull****. So the US should charge a crap ton for game tickets, tv rights to the events and the players shouldn't get anything? That sounds like the BS that is the olympics.
 
Shirtless Guy said:
That is pretty crazy...first road clean sheet in MLS.
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I honestly hope Alonso will be able to go the whole season this time, he’s a d- good player.

In other news, Atlanta tied Cincinnati and, once again, the Atlanta fans are melting down. Hard. Like, “let’s fire this coach who’s only been here for five games” meltdown.
 
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Sporting KC loses 5-0 to Monterrey and all the folks on r/MLS and Twitter lose their minds.

“We’ve fallen behind!” “We need to get rid of the salary cap!!!” “Let’s force the bad owners to spend more money!!!”

:rolleyes:

Maybe, just a thought, Monterrey is probably the best team in CONCACAF while SKC is a middling MLS team who reached the semis because of a lucky draw?

Maybe LigaMX has taken steps to improve their league just like MLS?

JFC.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
Sporting KC loses 5-0 to Monterrey and all the folks on r/MLS and Twitter lose their minds.

“We’ve fallen behind!” “We need to get rid of the salary cap!!!” “Let’s force the bad owners to spend more money!!!”

:rolleyes:

Maybe, just a thought, Monterrey is probably the best team in CONCACAF while SKC is a middling MLS team who reached the semis because of a lucky draw?

Maybe LigaMX has taken steps to improve their league just like MLS?

JFC.
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I saw a thing that said Monterrey would have 10 DPs and 5 TAM players if they were under MLS rules.
 
Shirtless Guy said:
I saw a thing that said Monterrey would have 10 DPs and 5 TAM players if they were under MLS rules.
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Yup, and outside of maybe Atlanta (and I even doubt that) no MLS team would be able to afford that kind of salary bill without sustaining huge financial losses. The financial gap between MLS and the top LigaMX teams is bigger than most people think.
 
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