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World Soccer XXV - the run up to the World Cup

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jmh said:
It's early yet. Transfers take time.
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After the initial start, there's usually a lull until August when the window closes. I do think we see some U.S. players get looks for international deals.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
Landon Donovan is not the All-Time US leading goal scorer.

I understand her point, but this is a silly argument.
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Her point is stupid. You can't compare stats across genders when they don't compete directly against one another, or at the least compete in vastly different skill levels. For all I know, there's some level local USL player who's scored more goals than anyone. But that wouldn't make him the all-time leading goal scorer, either.
 
unofan said:
Her point is stupid. You can't compare stats across genders when they don't compete directly against one another, or at the least compete in vastly different skill levels. For all I know, there's some level local USL player who's scored more goals than anyone. But that wouldn't make him the all-time leading goal scorer, either.
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Yeah, a guy makes that point in the comments points this out and is getting crucified.

Get past the US, Canada, Germany, Japan, Brazil, China, and maybe Norway and it's a sharp sharp drop in quality. Mia and Abby made a living on scoring 3+ a game against bad teams.
 
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unofan said:
Her point is stupid. You can't compare stats across genders when they don't compete directly against one another, or at the least compete in vastly different skill levels. For all I know, there's some level local USL player who's scored more goals than anyone. But that wouldn't make him the all-time leading goal scorer, either.
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Let Abby Wambach play on the USMNT and tell me how often she would score. That's my counter-argument.
 
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Not that I care what she thinks but I think all of you are missing the point...no one would call Abby Wambach the US all-time leading scorer. They'd qualify it with "Women's" but no one cares to qualify Landon in the same way even though he has scored less than some women. It is complete uncomparabke but it's not about comparing it's about properly qualifying. If you talk about Pete Sampras, you qualify him as a great Mens tennis player.
 
Shirtless Guy said:
Not that I care what she thinks but I think all of you are missing the point...no one would call Abby Wambach the US all-time leading scorer. They'd qualify it with "Women's" but no one cares to qualify Landon in the same way even though he has scored less than some women. It is complete uncomparabke but it's not about comparing it's about properly qualifying. If you talk about Pete Sampras, you qualify him as a great Mens tennis player.
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True, but it's referred to in context. They're talking about the Men's team so they refer to as such. Next summer during the Women's WC I'm sure the same will be used for Abby.

Of course the writer could be mistaken as they may have referred to Landon as the US's All Time leading World Cup goal scorer.

US Soccer at least does put the teams on equal footing with MNT and WNT being used.
 
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unofan said:
Her point is stupid. You can't compare stats across genders when they don't compete directly against one another, or at the least compete in vastly different skill levels. For all I know, there's some level local USL player who's scored more goals than anyone. But that wouldn't make him the all-time leading goal scorer, either.
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And then she goes on to make the same "error" herself by stating that, "Abby Wambach is the all-time leading goal scorer in the world, among all soccer players, male or female." Um, really? Per Wiki, Pele scored 1281 goals. Oh, I guess she meant that Abby was the top goal scorer in INTERNATIONAL competitions - well, she should have qualified it that way, then! Must be precise, mustn't we?
 
LynahFan said:
And then she goes on to make the same "error" herself by stating that, "Abby Wambach is the all-time leading goal scorer in the world, among all soccer players, male or female." Um, really? Per Wiki, Pele scored 1281 goals. Oh, I guess she meant that Abby was the top goal scorer in INTERNATIONAL competitions - well, she should have qualified it that way, then! Must be precise, mustn't we?
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She writes for Gawker/Jezebel, the only requirement is to complain incessantly.
 
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