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World Soccer XXIX: Pro/Rel USA! just kidding!

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Australia overcame a 2-0 halftime deficit to beat Brazil 3-2.

China beats South Africa 1-0 to set up a winner take all match against Spain. Well, that's not entirely true, due to everyone's favorite - goal differential! - Spain moves on with a draw.

I'd be interested to know how much the top Asian countries are propping up teams like Thailand in the rankings out of the AFC. It looks like confederation strength has been removed, but being guaranteed multiple top 15 games in qualifying and confederation tournaments can't hurt. From what I've seen so far, the African teams aren't terrible, yet the highest ranked team is Nigeria at 38th, followed by Cameroon at 46th and South Africa at 48th. Meanwhile, Thailand and Vietnam are ranked ahead of Nigeria in the mid 30s, and Taiwan, Uzbekistan, and Myanmar are all ranked ahead of Cameroon and South Africa.
 
Shirtless Guy said:
How doe offsides work at midfield? Do you need to have both feet behind the midfield line? Does any part of your body that could score have to be behind it or is it like hockey where as long as one foot is behind it you're ok?

https://www.mnufc.com/post/2019/06/...a-united-vs-sporting-kansas-city-june-12-2019

Specifically looking at the play that starts at 3:20 of this video
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It’s any playable part of the body, so basically everything except the hands and arms.

Direct link to the specific Law.
A player is in an offside position if:

any part of the head, body or feet is in the opponents’ half (excluding the halfway line) and

any part of the head, body or feet is nearer to the opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent

The hands and arms of all players, including the goalkeepers, are not considered.
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Slap Shot said:
And yeah the score to me in retrospect is less bothersome than the celebrating once it was that out of hand. Someone mentioned elsewhere the Germans toned it down the last few goals when they spanked Brazil 7-1.
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They did?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7IMPsyQg6k

At least the Dream Team was humble. Just listen to Magic at the start of this highlight package.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUc2Zc3JDeM

Or Charles Barkley's elbow as the US team demolishes Angola.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr1hhNVruSE

But yes, let's talk about how unbecoming it is when the ladies do it.
 
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Yeah let's use the Dream Team as an example. Did you watch 2 members of the Fox Sports crew (women) talking about it? I couldn't care less about their gender either. If the men did it would also lack class. Finally you and your smarm can gfy. K thanks.
 
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unofan said:
Cause no one ever criticizes male athletes for excessive celebration. :rolleyes:
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There's truth to women athletes getting slammed harder because they're women.* Remember that talk-show-ubiquitous chick who was crucified for taking her shirt off on a goal celebration. That was strictly because of the OH NOES GIRLY BOOBIES!!!111 morons.

* Not, Serena, though. Serena just gets slammed because she's as much of a childish as-shole as John McEnroe
 
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Kepler said:
There's truth to women athletes getting slammed harder because they're women.* Remember that talk-show-ubiquitous chick who was crucified for taking her shirt off on a goal celebration. That was strictly because of the OH NOES GIRLY BOOBIES!!!111 morons.

* Not, Serena, though. Serena just gets slammed because she's as much of a childish as-shole as John McEnroe
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Brandi Chastain. Yeah, when guys rip off their shirts for goal celebrations it's fine. If a woman does it the world will end. Won't someone think of the children??
 
ticapnews said:
Brandi Chastain. Yeah, when guys rip off their shirts for goal celebrations it's fine. If a woman does it the world will end. Won't someone think of the children??
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That's not limited to sports, and that has nothing to do with doing coordinated celebrations when you're already up 8+ goals against a clearly overmatched team.
 
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the only one I really had a problem with was Rapinoe's celebration at that point for the veteran/captain to do that...seemed like too much to me...
 
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unofan said:
That's not limited to sports, and that has nothing to do with doing coordinated celebrations when you're already up 8+ goals against a clearly overmatched team.
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Oddly enough the Thai players didn't seem to have a problem with it.
 
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I look at the WWC and I see what would happen if the NCAA men's ice hockey tournament expanded to 64 teams.
 
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ticapnews said:
Brandi Chastain. Yeah, when guys rip off their shirts for goal celebrations it's fine. If a woman does it the world will end. Won't someone think of the children??
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I love that this guy is a thing:

<img src="https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/ap_c10_mls_30_all_stars_1374089.jpg" height="300" >
 
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ticapnews said:
Brandi Chastain. Yeah, when guys rip off their shirts for goal celebrations it's fine. If a woman does it the world will end. Won't someone think of the children??
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The Chastain thing was effing awesome and she even got a commercial with Kevin Garnett out of it. You gonna die on the vine for this one?
 
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unofan said:
Good for them. The USWNT was representing my country, not theirs.
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Better not watch the game against Chile then.

The Italians defeated Jamaica 5-0. The classless Italians celebrated all five goals. Shameful.
 
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ticapnews said:
Better not watch the game against Chile then.

The Italians defeated Jamaica 5-0. The classless Italians celebrated all five goals. Shameful.
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Or Sweden vs. Thailand. You know Sweden is going to try to run up the score for the same GD reason. The only question is how will they celebrate once they get to double digits? :eek:
 
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Italy advances. England advances.

Better get the sportsmanship alarm ready for next week. Good chance Group B comes down to goal differential for seeding a three-way tie for first, and Australia trails both Brazil and Italy in GD with Jamaica next on the schedule.
 
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ticapnews said:
The Italians defeated Jamaica 5-0. The classless Italians celebrated all five goals. Shameful.
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Suggesting there is an equivalency between those two matches, those two scorelines, and those two teams shows you don't have a farking clue.


I'm bothered by the 13-0 scoreline, but that is as much a complaint about tournament format and rules as anything else. It's the huge celebrations after every goal in a game that is already handily decided that is absolutely horrible form.

I'm also really irritated by people saying the only reason the US are being criticized is because it's the women's team. Ridiculous. Being women has absolutely nothing to do with it, and it's especially irritating to hear that it's "only because they are girls" from people who can't be bothered to watch more than a few minutes of any matches not involving the US, and who wouldn't even be dialed in to the US team if they weren't one of the best teams in the world.

The only thing sex has to do with it is in relation to what is said about the Argentinian team going out and demanding their federation take them seriously with the way they are competing with the upper echelons of women's soccer, and how good that is for women's soccer around the world. What is the corollary statement about a Thai team that gets crushed 13-0?
Now should that be an obligatory consideration for the US team in individual matches of a competitive tournament? No, of course not. But I will say for fans of players who are currently engaged in a struggle for equality that I would say without irony is truly righteous, it seems a bit self-centered not to at least be cognizant of the fact that for most of the women footballers throughout the world the struggle is much more precipitous.


Carli Lloyd, Megan Rapinoe, Alex Morgan....these are women who have won everything there is to win on the international level, have Olympic gold medals and World Cup championships, have countless personal accolades. Going out and celebrating like you just opened the scoring of the WC Final when you are up by double digits against a team that is multiple levels below you in administrative and developmental support, let alone athletic and technical ability...What are you doing?

As an American soccer fan, and as a women's soccer fan, it's really disappointing to see.
 
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