Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
And even if they do it'll be to somewhere like South Africa or Germany, not the US or England.
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ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio
I would think Germany is more in the class with the US or England, but aside from that: They have 5 months. That's a pretty short time table to get $8 billion of publicly funded stadiums built in some poor country.
I would think Germany is more in the class with the US or England, but aside from that: They have 5 months. That's a pretty short time table to get $8 billion of publicly funded stadiums built in some poor country.
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio
Brazil has the world's 7th largest GDP. Not exactly chicken feed, but its not like they're way down on the list either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
Brazil has the world's 7th largest GDP. Not exactly chicken feed, but its not like they're way down on the list either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
Fighting Sioux 23
New member
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio
Agreed. Blatter has already admitted that there is no "Plan B."
Those hoping for a cup in the USA or England will have to wait until 2026 (USA) or 2034 (England).
Agreed. Blatter has already admitted that there is no "Plan B."
Those hoping for a cup in the USA or England will have to wait until 2026 (USA) or 2034 (England).
MountieBoyOz
Eater of Worlds
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio
If Blatter ever did defeat with Brazil, USA and England would be logical choices to be able to host on a short turnaround. Remember, the US did it one year with the Women's World Cup.
If Blatter ever did defeat with Brazil, USA and England would be logical choices to be able to host on a short turnaround. Remember, the US did it one year with the Women's World Cup.
Fighting Sioux 23
New member
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio
The Brazilians have invested way too much money for the Cup to be moved at this point. I believe they would move matches around to other stadia before they would move the Cup to another country.
That being said, I would never question the ability of the US or England to be able to host, even on extremely short notice.
As for the Women's World Cup that was moved, I believe that was primarily done out of fear over SARS in China, IIRC. Also, China got to host the next World Cup.
The Brazilians have invested way too much money for the Cup to be moved at this point. I believe they would move matches around to other stadia before they would move the Cup to another country.
That being said, I would never question the ability of the US or England to be able to host, even on extremely short notice.
As for the Women's World Cup that was moved, I believe that was primarily done out of fear over SARS in China, IIRC. Also, China got to host the next World Cup.
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio
Agree. The capacity certainly is there. Perhaps they overreached a bit in building new stadia instead of renovating existing ones? not sure of all the details. Also, if really necessary, they might be able to use a stadium in Uruguay or Argentina if really needed; the travel time to those countries would be no more onerous than traveling to Manaus.
Agree. The capacity certainly is there. Perhaps they overreached a bit in building new stadia instead of renovating existing ones? not sure of all the details. Also, if really necessary, they might be able to use a stadium in Uruguay or Argentina if really needed; the travel time to those countries would be no more onerous than traveling to Manaus.
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio
Disgraceful.
jmh I know you love the Qatar World Cup, but this should have been in the US, and if not in the US, it should have been in Australia. Period. Both of those bids were light years ahead of these jokers, and it's a complete disgrace that this was NEVER discussed ahead of the actual bid award.
Disgraceful.
jmh I know you love the Qatar World Cup, but this should have been in the US, and if not in the US, it should have been in Australia. Period. Both of those bids were light years ahead of these jokers, and it's a complete disgrace that this was NEVER discussed ahead of the actual bid award.
RaceBoarder
Waiting for the Snow to fly...
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio
Anyone else think it would be funny to see FIFA and the I.O.C. go at it over Winter 2022 bragging rights?
Anyone else think it would be funny to see FIFA and the I.O.C. go at it over Winter 2022 bragging rights?
jmh
win or lose, we booze
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio
I don't love it. I think it's a bad decision for the sport that was almost certainly the result of bribery, covered up by a somewhat plausible cover story. I just don't think it's the result of a conspiracy against the Anglophone world. If Italy had been another bidder and also had not engaged in the bribery that Qatar did, I don't think they'd have gotten it either.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio
AS Roma announces sale of Michael Bradley to Toronto FC.
TFC is also suppose to announce Jermaine Defoe as a signing Monday too.
Moral of the story: Bell and Rogers buying MLSE hasn't helped the Leafs too much, but they are splashing the cash at TFC.
AS Roma announces sale of Michael Bradley to Toronto FC.
TFC is also suppose to announce Jermaine Defoe as a signing Monday too.
Moral of the story: Bell and Rogers buying MLSE hasn't helped the Leafs too much, but they are splashing the cash at TFC.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio
Haven't paid attention in a while, but wasn't Bradley seeing decent minutes at Roma?
Haven't paid attention in a while, but wasn't Bradley seeing decent minutes at Roma?
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio
I understand the appeal of having America's best playing in the MLS from the MLS perspective but I just don't like it when it comes to the National Team. Opportunities like playing in Serie A, the Bundesliga and EPL don't come along easily and the fact that guys like Dempsey and Bradley are coming home disappoints me. These guys need to be challenging themselves more to compete at a higher level in a top flight league. I understand the belief that these guys will likely see more pressure and minutes by coming home and being some team's savior but the competition is still superior on the other side of the pond.
I understand the appeal of having America's best playing in the MLS from the MLS perspective but I just don't like it when it comes to the National Team. Opportunities like playing in Serie A, the Bundesliga and EPL don't come along easily and the fact that guys like Dempsey and Bradley are coming home disappoints me. These guys need to be challenging themselves more to compete at a higher level in a top flight league. I understand the belief that these guys will likely see more pressure and minutes by coming home and being some team's savior but the competition is still superior on the other side of the pond.
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That was likely to change now that I Lupi have Radja Nainggolan.
That was likely to change now that I Lupi have Radja Nainggolan.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio
The purpose of the MLS was to increase our depth pool and develop players. Its done that. Until the MLS is itself world class (if that were to ever happen) then Europe is the best option
The purpose of the MLS was to increase our depth pool and develop players. Its done that. Until the MLS is itself world class (if that were to ever happen) then Europe is the best option
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Well how do we make it world class if we just let our best players go to Europe all the time? Sorry but this part of our development as a league, these guys need to play in MLS. Players can continue to develop in MLS, you guys just need to lay off the Eurosnob pipe.
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio
Oh, I completely agree. The MLS is well on its way to being a Tier 2 League. Where do you think MLS would currently rank in UEFA Champions League? Would they get 2 spots? I have to think they're in the range of Turkey, Greece, Switzerland, Austria, Czech domestic leagues? still behind Russia, Netherlands and all the 3/4 spot CL leagues.
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio
How can you call it eurosnobbery when the best players in the world pretty much all play their prime years somewhere in Europe.
Its not Eurosnobbery, if someone can get playing time in the top division in England, Italy, Germany, Spain, they should continue to do it...I have no real problem if a player takes the Donovan route and plays in MLS, going on Loan to an EPL team over the MLS offseason. I'm not saying US National players don't belong in the MLS, let alone a guy like Michael Bradley. It will be good for other MLS players to play alongside and against a player of Bradley's caliber. I'm just not sure its the best for Bradley, especially in the lead up to a world cup.
How can you call it eurosnobbery when the best players in the world pretty much all play their prime years somewhere in Europe.
jmh
win or lose, we booze
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio
Generally speaking, I'm having a hard time separating my frustration at the fact that he appeared possibly headed to Fulham, who could really use him, from my confusion about what this does for Bradley and the USMNT leading up to the World Cup.
Bradley hasn't played much this year, starting because he got hurt about Costa Rica back in early September, but since then because De Rossi, Pjanic and Strootman have all been playing really well in the middle in Roma's 4-3-3 and Bradley just hasn't really had many opportunities to break in. And then add in Nainggolan and he's even less likely to do so. It completely makes sense for Bradley to look elsewhere in order to get playing time leading up to the World Cup (remember Onyewu riding the bench at Milan and how well that worked out four years ago?), but... Toronto? Really? And this means that he won't be playing competitive matches until mid-March instead of right away.
Generally speaking, I'm having a hard time separating my frustration at the fact that he appeared possibly headed to Fulham, who could really use him, from my confusion about what this does for Bradley and the USMNT leading up to the World Cup.
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What concerns me the most about having our best players in MLS is the heightened risk of injury. the rest of the players here, so far, just aren't as skilled as the average player in Europe. From what I've seen and read, MLS is a rougher league with riskier tackles. I could be wrong, and I don't know if any statistics are available, but anecdotally at least MLS seems a more dangerous place to play compared to Europe, all else being equal.
What concerns me the most about having our best players in MLS is the heightened risk of injury. the rest of the players here, so far, just aren't as skilled as the average player in Europe. From what I've seen and read, MLS is a rougher league with riskier tackles. I could be wrong, and I don't know if any statistics are available, but anecdotally at least MLS seems a more dangerous place to play compared to Europe, all else being equal.
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