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World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio

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Except "playing time in a top division" is a bit misleading. Jozy Altidore went to Sunderland and everybody was giddy because you know the PL! Except Sunderland sucks, he's not scoring, his confidence is now shot and he was better off playing elsewhere.

Non-European, non-Argentinian, non-Brazilian players will forever be undervalued and under utilized players in European soccer. Americans especially. It's does your development no good if you're on the bench the entire time. Other countries are starting to realize this or have realized this, Japan, S. Korea, and Mexico being the best examples. They've brought players back to strengthen their leagues and have increased their youth development. And that's what MLS is doing, they're bringing back guys to increase the money from TV so they can spend more on player development.

I'm sorry but Europe is not the future for the USMNT. A strong MLS is the future,

At the time the move to the PL made sense until he got there and found out he didn't have a midfield to get him the ball. I wouldn't be surprised if NYCFC came after him with a 6.5 million dollar per year in the lines of Dempsey and Bradley. I wonder if MLS will start over paying USA Euro players to get them to come back and grow our ldomestic league? I am all for it.
 
Oh, I completely agree. The MLS is well on its way to being a Tier 2 League. Where do you think MLS would currently rank in UEFA Champions League? Would they get 2 spots? I have to think they're in the range of Turkey, Greece, Switzerland, Austria, Czech domestic leagues? still behind Russia, Netherlands and all the 3/4 spot CL leagues.

MLS would easily compete with every second division on the planet including the NPower league. We should be more concerned with by passing Mexico. When that happens then we can concentrate the PL.
 
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Think the swedes are upset that zlatan isn't playing at home?
 
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MLS would easily compete with every second division on the planet including the NPower league. We should be more concerned with by passing Mexico. When that happens then we can concentrate the PL.
The MLS already has 3 Canadian teams in it. What would be people's thoughts about trying to increase its foot print some by setting up a couple of franchises in say the Carribbean and Central America? Off the top of my head, I would think the Bahamas, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and one or two of the central american countries would be able to support a MLS franchise, especially if they get to become that countries franchise.

I think the MLS would love to set up a Mexican franchise as well, but you would have to think Mexican Soccer would see it what is is as a shot right across their bow to cement their top domestic league as being a rung or two below the MLS forever.
 
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++++++++++1000%!!!!!!!!!

I watch MLS, BPL and Minnesota United FC . I agree with Lalas if you don't support MLS you don't support USMNT. I believe 98% of the players on the team have at one time or another played in this league. I do know 55% and up towards 61% of MLS players are American. How do we expect the game to grow if we don't support our own domestic league?

All of this is true, but let's not confuse the desire for a good, strong MLS with the belief that our best players are better off there than they are getting playing time at places like Roma, Tottenham, Everton, etc.
 
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I am under the impression he[Klinsman]'s saying there's no demand for USA players on loan to Europe during MLS offseason.

Yes. It seems to me that Klinsman's clear-headed appraisals about the state of the US game are valued by US Soccer. Probably a big factor in his contract extension. We need changes in the way youth soccer trains and develops potential players.

If a number of MLS-based players have a break-out World Cup, one hopes that more loan deals like the ones received by Dempsey and Donovan will materialize. It doesn't do US players much good to sit on the bench in Europe, though they do at least take part in training with the European squads.

It seems to me that MLS needs to improve the quality of the referees if we want to improve the quality of play on the field.
 
Think the swedes are upset that zlatan isn't playing at home?
No, but Swedish players are also EU citizens meaning they can play anywhere in Europe they want, meaning that they're desired more by major European clubs, meaning that they have higher value in the transfer market, meaning that their clubs have significantly more funds to spend on player development.

And let's not forget that the Swedish league isn't fighting for relevance it's own country's sports market or anything like that...

We're not the only country trying to hold onto it's best players. Brazil is actually doing similar things. 10-15 years ago Neymar would be transferring from some other European club to Barcelona because Santos would've sold him off as a teenager. Now they're taking steps to try hold onto to players in an effort to grow Serie A on the world market.
 
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If you haven't seen what Messi wore to the Ballon d'Or ceremony, you really should.
 
The MLS already has 3 Canadian teams in it. What would be people's thoughts about trying to increase its foot print some by setting up a couple of franchises in say the Carribbean and Central America? Off the top of my head, I would think the Bahamas, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and one or two of the central american countries would be able to support a MLS franchise, especially if they get to become that countries franchise.

I think the MLS would love to set up a Mexican franchise as well, but you would have to think Mexican Soccer would see it what is is as a shot right across their bow to cement their top domestic league as being a rung or two below the MLS forever.

Interesting. I would think you would need an owner who wants to spend 70 to 100 millions on a franchise fee.
 
Yes. It seems to me that Klinsman's clear-headed appraisals about the state of the US game are valued by US Soccer. Probably a big factor in his contract extension. We need changes in the way youth soccer trains and develops potential players.

If a number of MLS-based players have a break-out World Cup, one hopes that more loan deals like the ones received by Dempsey and Donovan will materialize. It doesn't do US players much good to sit on the bench in Europe, though they do at least take part in training with the European squads.

It seems to me that MLS needs to improve the quality of the referees if we want to improve the quality of play on the field.

http://www.proreferees.com

Well MLS is working on it. The funny thing I went to high school with one of the MLS linesmen.

http://www.proreferees.com/news-article.php?item=2

The former PL ref Walton said he's eying for more improvement.
 
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Small world.
Well in refereeing yeah it is. :)

Edit: It really is because in soccer, as a referee, everybody starts at the same place and works their way up. Every referee started out reffing kids games or Sunday beer league games. I just happened to run into a lot of them while working regional tournaments over the years.
 
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Well in refereeing yeah it is. :)

Edit: It really is because in soccer, as a referee, everybody starts at the same place and works their way up. Every referee started out reffing kids games or Sunday beer league games. I just happened to run into a lot of them while working regional tournaments over the years.

Did you see Mark Geiger get appointed to the World Cup? The first American head referee in 10 years to be officiating a WC match?
 
Did you see Mark Geiger get appointed to the World Cup? The first American head referee in 10 years to be officiating a WC match?
Yes! So happy to see that. Geiger is darn good ref so it's good to see him recognized.

It's been 12 years since Brian Hall refereed at the 2002 WC. Kevin Stott is an arrogant * and that's what killed his chances really for 2006 (though he was a reserve). Maruffo, the candidate for 2010, was just not good enough.
 
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Interesting. I would think you would need an owner who wants to spend 70 to 100 millions on a franchise fee.
Not totally out of the question. There is quite a few Billionaires who either live in the Bahama's or spend a lot of time there. I believe there's a few others through the Caribbean as well. Next trick after the stadium is getting the natives to buy into the local MLS squad as being elite enough that they'll shell out for tickets at a price point that would allow that franchise to remain competitive within the MLS.
 
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