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World Cup Soccer XVII: There can only be ONE!!!11!!!

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Sorry Ron...you are an idiot. Good thing the Bruins don't have any players from outside Mass playing for them...or god forbid...some other country. Next we gots to get these foreigners off the Red Sox...and how can a guy from the DR play for a team called the Yankees?

He seems really put off that there could be guys from Korea on a club team in Scotland.

What a maroon.
 
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Borges is the guy rooting for the Catholics and Protestants to be idiots to each other in Scotland, right? What a dope.
 
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Henry gets in alone early against Cudicini but gets stoned. Thank goodness.
 
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A decent amount of people booing Henry any time he touches the ball.
Really? I didn't hear it, at least not at the end of the stadium where the supporters clubs were. Maybe just the Spurs fans, who were more numerous than I expected. His reception seemed pretty great overall.

Other thoughts:

The stadium is sweet. Seats very close to the action, holds in noise well. Aluminum floors to the upper deck seating sections are extremely conducive to stomping to make noise. Pretty decent food/drink options and variety; we had rodizio platters from a stand right outside the stadium and liked them a lot. (PBR on draft inside the stadium, 24 oz/$9.)

Henry is going to be one of the best players in the league if he keeps playing hard and doesn't just coast. He and Angel will score a lot of goals playing together.

Joel Lindpere is also very good, especially for a guy who doesn't use up a designated player spot. Completely undressed Alan Hutton to set up Henry's goal.

Tim Ream is very solid, plays like he's taller than he's listed (6'1"). He might get some USMNT looks.

Bouna Coundoul is a great shot stopper but man is he ever a terrible kicker. His goal kicks never reach midfield. Not sure if this was old news but it surprised me a little.

Macoumba Kandji has great ball skills but no idea when to dish the ball off to another player.

Seth Stammler missed two VERY good goalmouth chances. Can't imagine he'll see much playing time if everyone is healthy.

Robbie Keane looked bad, despite getting a goal (which was pretty much a fluke on a bad misplay by the Red Bulls' backup keeper). Looked slow with a bad first touch, though maybe it was just summer rust.

Gareth Bale looked dangerous when he was used as a left midfielder, maybe the most dangerous attacking player Spurs had. (He saw a lot of the ball too, maybe more than Kranjcar or Modric.) As a left back, much less involved. But Chris Albright was up to the task of defending him more often than not, which surprised me.

The Harrison PATH station is entirely not equipped to handle match crowds; they're renovating it so it'll be better, and even before that it's probably still the best option, but the lines to get in after the game are nuts. We walked back to Newark (~20 mins) and got the PATH from there instead, just to avoid the sheer frustration of waiting on line.
 
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[sarcasm]

So to be more successful, soccer in America needs to sell-out every game, have every game finish with a score of 5-3, not allow foreigners, apologize that people actually watched the World Cup on ESPN and have ticket scalpers know where the stadium is? Let's get right to work on that. :rolleyes:

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I do enjoy articles like these. Just the fact he's willing to "waste" a column berating soccer and his paper is willing to run the article will tell you soccer is gaining ground.


My opinion on this is that I don't care if any more people start following soccer. If some Americans would rather go to other sporting events, that fine with me. I don't need them to come see socer to make me feel better.


I found some of the comments left for the column interesting/entertaining.

Did the vendors accept government EBT cards so that the Illegal Aliens could enjoy a hot dog and a beer, at taxpayer expense, while watching this snoozefest?

.After all this is America where David Ortiz and punters are considered "athletes" and Burger King is considered food.

Face it, Borges. You and people like you are getting left in the dust as the world moves on without you. So just sit there and shake your cane at the television, because soccer is here to stay.

How many people in Boston would go watch the LA Angels/Atlanta Braves at Fenway in a preseason game and pay upwards to $100 a ticket?

How many times have I read this same article before. Talk about boring...

For heaven's sake, is drawing 32,000-plus for a pre-season friendly in a ballpark hosting its first soccer match in decades all that terrible? Man United hasn't sold every ticket either. Ron is angry because his supposed bread and butter, boxing, is off most people's radar screens, let alone being featured at Fenway.
 
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Really? I didn't hear it, at least not at the end of the stadium where the supporters clubs were. Maybe just the Spurs fans, who were more numerous than I expected. His reception seemed pretty great overall.

Maybe it was the location of the TV microphones, but it was pretty noticeable watching on FSC.
 
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One other thing on "Grumpy Old Man Borges's" article. Why was Celtic playing SC Portugal? Was the thought that there are a fair amount of portugese americans in new england? From living there I would say the greater boston area does have a portugese segment of the population, but I have no idea how large it would be.

Seems like only one of the teams would be a big draw.

Saw it on FSC last night. fun to watch.

If you had told somebody even 10 years ago you could get 30k to watch two teams from other countries play soccer in Fenway Park in the middle of baseball season they would have had you committed.
 
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I don't know who wunderkid Tom Eaves (Oldham) is, but Blackburn looks to be interested in him.
 
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Borges is the guy rooting for the Catholics and Protestants to be idiots to each other in Scotland, right? What a dope.

Not one of the Plagiarist's better columns.

I would like to personally slap anyone who was complaining that Sporting and Celtic are not big enough "name" teams to be playing at Fenway when most people with a passing interest in soccer in this country would be aware of both teams. Maybe next year, we get Chelsea and Barca, but probably not...
 
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City have made a £24m bid for Milner. Take it or leave it apparently. I sure hope Villa leave it.
 
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City have made a £24m bid for Milner. Take it or leave it apparently. I sure hope Villa leave it.

Good god, does City realize that you don't spell "Xavi" "James Milner?" It's James freaking Milner!!!! Is Villa only waiting to accept this because they haven't stopped giggling yet? That's $37,000,000!!!!!! FOR JAMES MILNER!
 
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Not one of the Plagiarist's better columns.

I would like to personally slap anyone who was complaining that Sporting and Celtic are not big enough "name" teams to be playing at Fenway when most people with a passing interest in soccer in this country would be aware of both teams. Maybe next year, we get Chelsea and Barca, but probably not...

jon - can't tell if you were referring to me...I wasn't commenting on SCP's legitimacy...only asking why they were the other half of this match. Certainly Celtic makes sense, they could play anybody and sell 20k seats in the Boston area. I was curious if SCP was brought in because they have a following in the region.
 
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jon - can't tell if you were referring to me...I wasn't commenting on SCP's legitimacy...only asking why they were the other half of this match. Certainly Celtic makes sense, they could play anybody and sell 20k seats in the Boston area. I was curious if SCP was brought in because they have a following in the region.

Wasn't it supposed to be Rangers?


Good god, does City realize that you don't spell "Xavi" "James Milner?" It's James freaking Milner!!!! Is Villa only waiting to accept this because they haven't stopped giggling yet? That's $37,000,000!!!!!! FOR JAMES MILNER!

Maybe this is a bit cynical of me, but I honestly think MON is hoping for a drawn out transfer saga. That way he can paint it as "Big mean City coming to steal our players." And try to use that as a rallying point. He says Milner is free to go, but seems pretty much set on having a nice little dustup in the media.

In other news, City away kit revealed.
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereve...ester_city/s/1302648_city_unveil_new_away_kit

Check out those socks!
 
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Wasn't it supposed to be Rangers?




Maybe this is a bit cynical of me, but I honestly think MON is hoping for a drawn out transfer saga. That way he can paint it as "Big mean City coming to steal our players." And try to use that as a rallying point. He says Milner is free to go, but seems pretty much set on having a nice little dustup in the media.

In other news, City away kit revealed.
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereve...ester_city/s/1302648_city_unveil_new_away_kit

Check out those socks!

Yeah, I'd say you are being a bit cynical. They have a 24 yo guy who made the English national team top 11...we can all say that wasn't much of an accomplishment but it still is a fact. Milner was instrumental in villa's performance last year even if he did wear down due to MON's lack of depth on the bench. there is no way villa wants to go through what they went through with Barry...City knows Villa doesn't have the pockets they do and taking Milner does 2 things...potentially helps City but definitely hurts Villa, a team right on their heels. Villa, being tight on funds, is going to make it hurt to get the guy out with, I believe, 2 years left on his contract.

To your point, why does city want Milner? Why are they offering $20 and then $24 for him if he isn't any good, as you describe? Villa doesn't have to do much to paint it as big bad citeh trying to take our players. They sure wern't trying to get rid of Milner after losing Barry to the same team last year.
 
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Yeah, I'd say you are being a bit cynical. They have a 24 yo guy who made the English national team top 11...we can all say that wasn't much of an accomplishment but it still is a fact. Milner was instrumental in villa's performance last year even if he did wear down due to MON's lack of depth on the bench. there is no way villa wants to go through what they went through with Barry...City knows Villa doesn't have the pockets they do and taking Milner does 2 things...potentially helps City but definitely hurts Villa, a team right on their heels. Villa, being tight on funds, is going to make it hurt to get the guy out with, I believe, 2 years left on his contract.

To your point, why does city want Milner? Why are they offering $20 and then $24 for him if he isn't any good, as you describe? Villa doesn't have to do much to paint it as big bad citeh trying to take our players. They sure wern't trying to get rid of Milner after losing Barry to the same team last year.


I personally don't rate Milner. There are better players out there Man City could be going after - with the added bonus of those players not playing for a team in the same position as City. (Why give money to a team that was neck and neck with you for much of last season?) However, the people in charge of the club evidently do rate him, which is why they are offering such money. I personally don't know why they want him, other than the fact that he's English. But I have a sneaking suspicion Roberto Mancini knows more about soccer than me, so I'll defer to his judgment I guess.

I guess my 2nd point is that transfers are a two way street. City aren't "taking" or "stealing" Milner. They're offering what they believe to be a fair price for him. Now, Villa can either accept or reject that offer. How is it stealing when the decision is 110% up to Aston Villa?
 
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Don't we have a Villa fan on here? 3W maybe?
 
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Don't we have a Villa fan on here? 3W maybe?

I'd say I'm a AVFC fan. Have only followed for the last 3 years or so, though.

The story I hear from people closer to the situation is that with City going to CL they want the depth, it is going to be a long year with a lot of matches. Lot of money to spend for depth.

edit: WWM - I hear you but this tango requires 3 people. the only way Villa could have made this short and sweet was to accept an offer that was obviously going to be the starting point from City. As Vinny Gambini/Jerry Gallo/Jerry Callo would say, "that is what we call a counter-offer"...there was no way a $20 bid for an ENT member on a rival club was going to be anything but the start of a drama.
 
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