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Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the problem!!
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WiscTJK
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
Alvarez is a joke and this article proves he doesn't care about hockey......He should be thinking how much more revenue could be brought in if things were turned around, not that only BB and FB matter.
Alvarez is a joke and this article proves he doesn't care about hockey......He should be thinking how much more revenue could be brought in if things were turned around, not that only BB and FB matter.
Ice Bisquit
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Truly outrageous when you think of the great tradition of Badger Hockey.
Since BA is of the "minimize loss" philosophy with respect to hockey, does that mean he won't make the obvious decision to get rid of this entire coaching staff?
Badger Booster
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
It doesn't even really make sense. Keeping Camp Randall and Kohl Center (for basketball) full and taking account of men's hockey are really seperate issues. UW has the resources to do all three (and then some). When recent history has proven that men's hockey can consistently draw 13,000-14,000, I don't understand why that would be understated.
There are two radically under-performing teams (on the ice/court & attendence) with men's hockey and women's basketball. Both have the potential of winning big and drawing big crowds. Neither Eaves or Kelsey got an extension last year. Both teams are again performing poorly this year. I have nothing personal against either coach, but I don't see any way how either survive after this season.
It doesn't even really make sense. Keeping Camp Randall and Kohl Center (for basketball) full and taking account of men's hockey are really seperate issues. UW has the resources to do all three (and then some). When recent history has proven that men's hockey can consistently draw 13,000-14,000, I don't understand why that would be understated.
There are two radically under-performing teams (on the ice/court & attendence) with men's hockey and women's basketball. Both have the potential of winning big and drawing big crowds. Neither Eaves or Kelsey got an extension last year. Both teams are again performing poorly this year. I have nothing personal against either coach, but I don't see any way how either survive after this season.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
Mens Hockey does remind me of Women's basketball's performance for the past decade at least. I attend every Friday Hockey game and have been coming since 1999-2000. No time than now in that period have I sat in those seats knowing the team has no chance against its better opponents at home. Minny and Mich confirm this. I note the kids just quit after the holiday break. They don't play with heart and that points to coaching. This in addition to the huge talent gap being played out each week before our eyes. All coaches must be fired. The assistants are not that bad but with MM at the helm there is no hope. Listen to his interviews and air time on the radio. He is going through the motions.
The current state of the program is the result. I have pledged to my family that goes to games with me that I am out as a season ticket holder if MM is not fired. He has taken out all of the joy and fun Badger Hockey has been in the past.
BA has to go too. Using Hockey as a it just does not matter scape goat for filling Football and BB stadiums wont fly with me. No more money for Badger Athletes at all until BA is gone. He has turned Badger Hockey into a lost cause due to his blatant disinterest. This is all on him. Since 05-06, BA has been seldom seen at the KC for hockey. Take permanent leave BA.
Mens Hockey does remind me of Women's basketball's performance for the past decade at least. I attend every Friday Hockey game and have been coming since 1999-2000. No time than now in that period have I sat in those seats knowing the team has no chance against its better opponents at home. Minny and Mich confirm this. I note the kids just quit after the holiday break. They don't play with heart and that points to coaching. This in addition to the huge talent gap being played out each week before our eyes. All coaches must be fired. The assistants are not that bad but with MM at the helm there is no hope. Listen to his interviews and air time on the radio. He is going through the motions.
The current state of the program is the result. I have pledged to my family that goes to games with me that I am out as a season ticket holder if MM is not fired. He has taken out all of the joy and fun Badger Hockey has been in the past.
BA has to go too. Using Hockey as a it just does not matter scape goat for filling Football and BB stadiums wont fly with me. No more money for Badger Athletes at all until BA is gone. He has turned Badger Hockey into a lost cause due to his blatant disinterest. This is all on him. Since 05-06, BA has been seldom seen at the KC for hockey. Take permanent leave BA.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
Barry does know that if you put a good product on the ice, it can make money, right? Nevermind, this is Barry we're talking about.
What a sad state of affairs. And honestly, it deadens the rivalry for me. If they become 2000s-MTU-like...and they are close already...*shrug* RIP a good rivalry.
Barry does know that if you put a good product on the ice, it can make money, right? Nevermind, this is Barry we're talking about.
What a sad state of affairs. And honestly, it deadens the rivalry for me. If they become 2000s-MTU-like...and they are close already...*shrug* RIP a good rivalry.
solovsfett
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Omfg. my rage could fuel a musk rocket to the god**** beginning of time. I'm calling the ad and I'm calling the badger fund and I'm calling as many numbers as i can for the board of regents. This dismissive bulldhit behavior absolutely cannot stand.
I can't ****ing believe that for the 2nd time (at least) Alvarez tells us via a news reporter that he doesn't give a good goddman flying **** about hockey.
And just what does he expect the kids to feel? The kids on the team who read his horse **** quote? Or read that quote he made memorialized over and over in this thread?
**** him. **** him and the arrogance he rode in on. I don't care about football. In fact I know hope hhey go in a tailspin and re-enter the hilles/Morton years. They deserve it for all the ****s Alvarez does not give toward any other sport
EDIT: left some vm's. Unfortunately alvarez's number bounces you to a general msg with no allowance to leave a vm.
For those who want to call and find a board of regents contact, in case they're not up on the site: badger fund 608-262-1000
They should know. I'm calling Monday morning
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solovsfett
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Really? Who paid the bills In the 70's and 80's? Huh?
solovsfett
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And besides, if football makes money it's not a zero sum game, we are two very different crowds generally speaking. One winning doesn't preclude the right hires being made in other sports
NEWI Badger Fan
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
I've said this for 5 years. Barry Alvarez was an ok coach. He was not a great coach. If he was great, he would have found a way to win a NC in football. BA made the correct decision to accept a head coaching position at a university that was in terrible shape. No risk for him. Props to BA for turning the FB program around. BA can thank his lucky stars to be AD at UW because he has a long leash due to his perceived status. Bad news for UW fans: BA is not in the league of the top 40 college AD's. He has made poor decisions hiring fb coaches and have not allowed coaches to pay its assistants. Huge reason why UW cannot attract a top caliber coach.
Inability to make a surgical incision to hockey program, along with fb decisions, makes BA a below average AD. BA needs to go.
I dislike the storied hockey program in the shape it is and struggle with the athletic program direction with the current AD. BA is a fat cat with a long leash. Time for someone much better to take the athletic program to the next level. BA is unable to do so.
I've said this for 5 years. Barry Alvarez was an ok coach. He was not a great coach. If he was great, he would have found a way to win a NC in football. BA made the correct decision to accept a head coaching position at a university that was in terrible shape. No risk for him. Props to BA for turning the FB program around. BA can thank his lucky stars to be AD at UW because he has a long leash due to his perceived status. Bad news for UW fans: BA is not in the league of the top 40 college AD's. He has made poor decisions hiring fb coaches and have not allowed coaches to pay its assistants. Huge reason why UW cannot attract a top caliber coach.
Inability to make a surgical incision to hockey program, along with fb decisions, makes BA a below average AD. BA needs to go.
I dislike the storied hockey program in the shape it is and struggle with the athletic program direction with the current AD. BA is a fat cat with a long leash. Time for someone much better to take the athletic program to the next level. BA is unable to do so.
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Doesn't matter, it's about dough. Bowl games and march madness. Don't get me wrong I get the history and programs should should strive for good coaching and success, but I can see why AD's don't give a ****
Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
You guys deserve a hell of a lot better, that is for sure. My first thought reading his shameful quote is that the man is too stupid to even manage his own message to the press. Then I just realized that he just doesn't give a dam.
You guys deserve a hell of a lot better, that is for sure. My first thought reading his shameful quote is that the man is too stupid to even manage his own message to the press. Then I just realized that he just doesn't give a dam.
WiscTJK
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Hockey is a revenue sport so he should care. And he is throwing money away by having the program in the tank.
MGoBlueHockey
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
It's like Dave Brandon reincarnated. Wow.
You guys need to cut the head off the snake before you fire Eaves and fix your program. It starts with the AD. What coach is going to want to come and work for a guy that basically just said hockey is of equal weight as rowing?
We staged protests on the lawn of the university president to get that idiot Dave Brandon fired.
Hope you get rid of him. People like that don't belong in charge of athletic departments.
It's like Dave Brandon reincarnated. Wow.
You guys need to cut the head off the snake before you fire Eaves and fix your program. It starts with the AD. What coach is going to want to come and work for a guy that basically just said hockey is of equal weight as rowing?
We staged protests on the lawn of the university president to get that idiot Dave Brandon fired.
Hope you get rid of him. People like that don't belong in charge of athletic departments.
IndianaBadger1995
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
I hate this stupid ****ing argument. More good teams = more $$$$.
Edit: I will forever love Bo Ryan for basically saying "**** you" to Barry saying no to Greg Gard as head coach by stepping down mid season. Class act, unlike Barry.
I hate this stupid ****ing argument. More good teams = more $$$$.
Edit: I will forever love Bo Ryan for basically saying "**** you" to Barry saying no to Greg Gard as head coach by stepping down mid season. Class act, unlike Barry.
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Badger Booster
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
And it's probably going to pay off as Gard is clearly earning his opportunity to become permanent coach after this year.
And it's probably going to pay off as Gard is clearly earning his opportunity to become permanent coach after this year.
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