solovsfett
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXXII: No Where To Go But Up!
I absolutely agree and it's not unrealistic to expect the above at all.
I absolutely agree and it's not unrealistic to expect the above at all.
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Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXXII: No Where To Go But Up!
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solovsfett
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXXII: No Where To Go But Up!
I'm right there with you. My Dad and I have season tickets for Saturday and donate to the Badger Fund. We're going to be contacting the Athletic Department regarding our concern for Men's Hockey and letting them know in no uncertain terms that if a change isn't made we will not renew. As 30-year season ticket holders (and I bet many of you have held tickets for that long or longer) you'd think they'd acknowledge the problem we're addressing in our letters.
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I'm right there with you. My Dad and I have season tickets for Saturday and donate to the Badger Fund. We're going to be contacting the Athletic Department regarding our concern for Men's Hockey and letting them know in no uncertain terms that if a change isn't made we will not renew. As 30-year season ticket holders (and I bet many of you have held tickets for that long or longer) you'd think they'd acknowledge the problem we're addressing in our letters.
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Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
I suspect that the overlap between BB and HKY season ticket holders isn't all that high. Plus, unless they start selling SRO tickets BB doesn't have much room for ticket sales growth.
Gandalf the Red
Cardinal and White Wizard
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXXII: No Where To Go But Up!
I was just thinking about the program this way. 5 years ago we were celebrating the program's first Hobey Baker winner, the Defense of the Ages, and a shot at NC #7 in Detroit.
Now we have less wins on March 2nd than our program has national championships....I'm not sure this is acceptable on December 2nd let alone the end of the season.
I was just thinking about the program this way. 5 years ago we were celebrating the program's first Hobey Baker winner, the Defense of the Ages, and a shot at NC #7 in Detroit.
Now we have less wins on March 2nd than our program has national championships....I'm not sure this is acceptable on December 2nd let alone the end of the season.
Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
Given the screwy scheduling, they may not have even played 6 games by Dec 2 (at least it feels that way)
I'd be absolutely shocked if this team matches the number of NC in wins this season. At least the team will have a winning % over 0.100!
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXXII: No Where To Go But Up!
I guess it comes down to what you are looking for out of a team.
You can have the results of Michigan under Berenson, which has been to the tournament pretty much every year since 1990, but hasn't won a title since 1998 and has only been to championship game sice...or you can have Wisconsin under Eaves, which makes the tournament about half of the time, but has a recent title (2006) and another finals appearance in 2010.
Personally, I'm OK with having the highs and the lows when the highs are as high as they have been. Yes, last season was supposed to be a high year and we got bounced in the first round; that happens, nothing is guarenteed. But who is to say that we wouldn't get bounced in the first round every year if we are coming in as a 12th-14th ranked team? I'd rather have the real shot at making something happen every few years than be an 1st round out every year.
I'm OK with Eaves staying, and I know I'm in the minority with that. If you want to use this year as the straw that broke the camel's back I can't fault you for that, it just isn't my personal view.
I guess it comes down to what you are looking for out of a team.
You can have the results of Michigan under Berenson, which has been to the tournament pretty much every year since 1990, but hasn't won a title since 1998 and has only been to championship game sice...or you can have Wisconsin under Eaves, which makes the tournament about half of the time, but has a recent title (2006) and another finals appearance in 2010.
Personally, I'm OK with having the highs and the lows when the highs are as high as they have been. Yes, last season was supposed to be a high year and we got bounced in the first round; that happens, nothing is guarenteed. But who is to say that we wouldn't get bounced in the first round every year if we are coming in as a 12th-14th ranked team? I'd rather have the real shot at making something happen every few years than be an 1st round out every year.
I'm OK with Eaves staying, and I know I'm in the minority with that. If you want to use this year as the straw that broke the camel's back I can't fault you for that, it just isn't my personal view.
Gandalf the Red
Cardinal and White Wizard
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXXII: No Where To Go But Up!
True on the schedule part, I was being a tad bold hoping for some hay in the barn, but in most years Bucky has played 10 to 12 games by Dec 1st. We should be expecting 6-4 or 7-5 records (or better), but in the Eaves era have rarely gotten those either. Usually playing from behind and missing the tourney by being the last team out where any of a dozen games ending differently would have got the team in.
I'm sick of being on the bubble (at best except every 4th year), I'm sick of watching players coached not to score (3rd and 4th lines) and not to play to win late in games, I'm sick of excuses and platitudes. I want results year in and year out.
True on the schedule part, I was being a tad bold hoping for some hay in the barn, but in most years Bucky has played 10 to 12 games by Dec 1st. We should be expecting 6-4 or 7-5 records (or better), but in the Eaves era have rarely gotten those either. Usually playing from behind and missing the tourney by being the last team out where any of a dozen games ending differently would have got the team in.
I'm sick of being on the bubble (at best except every 4th year), I'm sick of watching players coached not to score (3rd and 4th lines) and not to play to win late in games, I'm sick of excuses and platitudes. I want results year in and year out.
Gandalf the Red
Cardinal and White Wizard
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXXII: No Where To Go But Up!
I have actually considered what it would be like to be a Michigan hockey fan before, because they have been so consistent. I'm sure some of us would become unhappy without NCs coming in the door no matter what, but I know it would be exciting to cheer on a team that was in the mix EVERY season. All it takes is a hot goalie or a few hot players to carry a team in the tourney, and Michigan has done a great job of GETTING there year after year after year.
My girlfriend's entire family are LSU football fans (she is from Louisiana) and I know that winning consistently doesn't satisfy every fan. They have a "down" year going 8-5 or 9-4 and people are calling for Les Miles to be fired because they should win the National Championship EVERY year. Personally, I would long for down years like that at any program, because I recognize that even in the best of seasons the stars need to align to win a NC, especially in one and done formats. Like in the Michigan example, getting the chance to win that NC is the first step, and watching the Regionals on TV is not that first step.
I have actually considered what it would be like to be a Michigan hockey fan before, because they have been so consistent. I'm sure some of us would become unhappy without NCs coming in the door no matter what, but I know it would be exciting to cheer on a team that was in the mix EVERY season. All it takes is a hot goalie or a few hot players to carry a team in the tourney, and Michigan has done a great job of GETTING there year after year after year.
My girlfriend's entire family are LSU football fans (she is from Louisiana) and I know that winning consistently doesn't satisfy every fan. They have a "down" year going 8-5 or 9-4 and people are calling for Les Miles to be fired because they should win the National Championship EVERY year. Personally, I would long for down years like that at any program, because I recognize that even in the best of seasons the stars need to align to win a NC, especially in one and done formats. Like in the Michigan example, getting the chance to win that NC is the first step, and watching the Regionals on TV is not that first step.
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXXII: No Where To Go But Up!
I'm not sure what you mean? You only had like, what... six new guys this year? We had eleven guys come in!
Seems pretty clear that's FIVE better recruiting than you.
I'm not sure what you mean? You only had like, what... six new guys this year? We had eleven guys come in!
Seems pretty clear that's FIVE better recruiting than you.
Happy
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXXII: No Where To Go But Up!
Great, I hope you have 11 every year.
Great, I hope you have 11 every year.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXXII: No Where To Go But Up!
As in there are too many misses and lack of development? Yes and Yes.
As in there are too many misses and lack of development? Yes and Yes.
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXXII: No Where To Go But Up!
That should be our new plan. We'll just put them all on Band scholarships. We get 40 or 50 guys in here and we'll definitely (probably) win some games.
That should be our new plan. We'll just put them all on Band scholarships. We get 40 or 50 guys in here and we'll definitely (probably) win some games.
Chuck Schwartz
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If he wasn't having fun in Madison I'm sure Houghton will be a blast.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Maybe he really likes broomball? Or a ski hill across the river? Or **** I don't even know anymore.
Perhaps just best to admit that it was a hockey decision, pure and simple.
Or maybe he just loves the PK Ditty?
Chuck Schwartz
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXXII: No Where To Go But Up!
Wisconsin hockey: We're losing kids to Michigan Tech because of hockey reasons.
Wisconsin hockey: We're losing kids to Michigan Tech because of hockey reasons.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXXII: No Where To Go But Up!
A kid preferring the environment at MTU over Wisconsin is more plausible than a lot of other potential places (like the rest of the Big Ten). I'm not saying it wasn't a hockey decision, but he can at least pretend it had to do with the school/city/environment.
A kid preferring the environment at MTU over Wisconsin is more plausible than a lot of other potential places (like the rest of the Big Ten). I'm not saying it wasn't a hockey decision, but he can at least pretend it had to do with the school/city/environment.
Chuck Schwartz
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXXII: No Where To Go But Up!
He was likely blocked from transferring within the conference. I'm not speaking on information I have, but it wouldn't surprise me.
He was likely blocked from transferring within the conference. I'm not speaking on information I have, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXXII: No Where To Go But Up!
That is a rule that really annoys me...
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