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Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XX - Growth Through Experience

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Almington said:
I might agree if it had actually been funny, instead it was just vulgar and personal attacks. For me, that type of thing does not improve the board. The fact that Board temporarily locked the thread and then cleared out ~50 post from a 3 hour window is something that I have never seen before says everything about last night.

I'm sure that Chuck recieved the instigator penalty, hopefully he'll be back in a week or two with a good lesson learned that sometimes it's best to just turn-off the computer and walk away.
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Are you referring to this thread? Last night?

What the heck did I miss? :eek:
 
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Oh, I see. Mooch and Dubber in here again spouting their "Minnesota way is the best way" garbage again.
 
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burd said:
I'll also pledge to stay away from this thread for a while. It's a good thread, and UW fans deserve better than to have us stir it up like this.
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I don't think anyone minds your presence here.
 
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Shoot! I spend one night studying and I miss all the action. I was just starting to get used to USCHO being one giant soap opera and I miss the **** season finale. Well I guess there is nothing left to do but begrudgingly return to talking about hockey... :rolleyes:
 
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bigmrg74 said:
mariucci is banned, and Chuck there is banned but still showing up as online. I've got some intel saying that shibby just got real here a while back.
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Bummer. I thought mariucci was an even handed, level headed poster, for a rodent fan. Chuck can get a little uppity once and awhile and then his temper does flair. Too bad a missed all the fireworks.
 
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Timothy A said:
Bummer. I thought mariucci was an even handed, level headed poster, for a rodent fan. Chuck can get a little uppity once and awhile and then his temper does flair. Too bad a missed all the fireworks.
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I guess I won't argue with level-headed, but Mariucci was only ever here to tell us that how we (Wisconsin) are/were doing things wrong and how superior the way they do things in Minnesota is.

His, "Hang in there guys, keep growing your own in-state talent and you'll be fine" comments were only there to further prop up his assumption that the "Minnesota Model" is the best or only right way to do things.

Never mind that we have more titles and have turned out just as much elite talent as they have. Also, tell BC, UND and Denver that they've got it all wrong. Different strokes for different folks.

He's not here to "talk hockey" like he says. He's here to point out Minnesota Hockey superiority. He's trying to be subtle, I guess, but it couldn't be more pathetically transparent.

I didn't read the exchange as it was deleted before I got here, but having beaten my head against the Mooch/Dubber brick wall, I can imagine how Chuck let his temper get the best of him.

Funny how the clowns from Minny are always complaining about other fan bases in their threads as if it's exclusive to them.
 
Gurtholfin said:
I guess I won't argue with level-headed, but Mariucci was only ever here to tell us that how we (Wisconsin) are/were doing things wrong and how superior the way they do things in Minnesota is.

His, "Hang in there guys, keep growing your own in-state talent and you'll be fine" comments were only there to further prop up his assumption that the "Minnesota Model" is the best or only right way to do things.

Never mind that we have more titles and have turned out just as much elite talent as they have. Also, tell BC, UND and Denver that they've got it all wrong. Different strokes for different folks.

He's not here to "talk hockey" like he says. He's here to point out Minnesota Hockey superiority. He's trying to be subtle, I guess, but it couldn't be more pathetically transparent.

I didn't read the exchange as it was deleted before I got here, but having beaten my head against the Mooch/Dubber brick wall, I can imagine how Chuck let his temper get the best of him.

Funny how the clowns from Minny are always complaining about other fan bases in their threads as if it's exclusive to them.
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You got him all wrong. He actually cares and was trying to have a conversation about something he is passionate about and believes. I think he would be the first person to tell you he would have no problem if someone disagreed with him and laid out their reasoning in a polite manner. That's not what happened.

You have some UW fans saying that Wisconsin can never emerge to be the hockey hotbed Minnesota is and that the "Minnesota Way" (like everyone wouldn't want the recruits in their backyard Minnesota has) isn't the best way.

Then, you have UW fans that frequent the Minnesota High School Hockey boards and talk endlessly about how much hockey in Wisconsin is growing and how the Top WI high school teams can compete with the top MN teams.

Those posts on that board were the genesis of Mariucci's comments and he was trying to be nice and say how happy he was to see Wisconsin hockey growing and how much of an impact he thinks it will have on UW hockey.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
I guess I won't argue with level-headed, but Mariucci was only ever here to tell us that how we (Wisconsin) are/were doing things wrong and how superior the way they do things in Minnesota is.

His, "Hang in there guys, keep growing your own in-state talent and you'll be fine" comments were only there to further prop up his assumption that the "Minnesota Model" is the best or only right way to do things.

Never mind that we have more titles and have turned out just as much elite talent as they have. Also, tell BC, UND and Denver that they've got it all wrong. Different strokes for different folks.

He's not here to "talk hockey" like he says. He's here to point out Minnesota Hockey superiority. He's trying to be subtle, I guess, but it couldn't be more pathetically transparent.

I didn't read the exchange as it was deleted before I got here, but having beaten my head against the Mooch/Dubber brick wall, I can imagine how Chuck let his temper get the best of him.

Funny how the clowns from Minny are always complaining about other fan bases in their threads as if it's exclusive to them.
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Im sorry but I have to comment on this post and go back to lurking.

If WI produced the same number of Elite Players as Minnesota they would compare in this category. Also, when talking Championships MN and WI has the same number 6, however WI has the edge in NCAA Championship 6 vs 5.

Here's the link I think should be reviewed prior to making the mistake of comparing MN elite to WI. WI doesn't even crack the top 5.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/friv/birthplaces.cgi?country=US&province=&state=MN
 
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mnstate0fhockey said:
Im sorry but I have to comment on this post and go back to lurking.

If WI produced the same number of Elite Players as Minnesota they would compare in this category. Also, when talking Championships MN and WI has the same number 6, however WI has the edge in NCAA Championship 6 vs 5.

Here's the link I think should be reviewed prior to making the mistake of comparing MN elite to WI. WI doesn't even crack the top 5.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/friv/birthplaces.cgi?country=US&province=&state=MN
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I'm almost 100% positive he meant the University of Wisconsin, Madison turned out just as much elite talent as the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities. He mentioned BC, DU and UND, not Massachusetts, Colorado and North Dakota. "Minnesota" is a state. "Wisconsin" is a state. Different discussion.

And Chuck's true failure here was not getting a 2 for 1 and getting rid of the other nuisance.
 
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Before the prior exchange. I guess Rooster Sucker was not censored.
 
Runninwiththedogs said:
I'm almost 100% positive he meant the University of Wisconsin, Madison turned out just as much elite talent as the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities. He mentioned BC, DU and UND, not Massachusetts, Colorado and North Dakota. "Minnesota" is a state. "Wisconsin" is a state. Different discussion.

And Chuck's true failure here was not getting a 2 for 1 and getting rid of the other nuisance.
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Got it. My bad :)
 
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Gurtholfin said:
His, "Hang in there guys, keep growing your own in-state talent and you'll be fine" comments were only there to further prop up his assumption that the "Minnesota Model" is the best or only right way to do things.

Never mind that we have more titles and have turned out just as much elite talent as they have. Also, tell BC, UND and Denver that they've got it all wrong. Different strokes for different folks.
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Exactly.

Titles won by schools not following the "Minnesota Model": 59
Titles won by schools following the "Minnesota Model": 5

Which side would you rather be on?
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Exactly.

Titles won by schools not following the "Minnesota Model": 59
Titles won by schools following the "Minnesota Model": 5

Which side would you rather be on?
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So, more schools wouldn't want the recruits in their back yard that Minnesota has? I have yet to hear one person advocate for only recruiting within state. What they are saying is having more local talent is never a bad thing. To answer your question, I'd rather do it the current Minnesota way. Have loads of high-end recruits in my back yard, but also recruit out of state when the opportunity arises or when it's necessary.
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Exactly.

Titles won by schools not following the "Minnesota Model": 59
Titles won by schools following the "Minnesota Model": 5

Which side would you rather be on?
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You just summed up the biggest difference in the fanbases right there.

Gopher fans would much rather do it with MN kids, and support the growth of the sport vs the UND way and bring in a bunch of Canadians. Minnesota is the only school thats ever won an NCAA Championship with all instate kids, twice.

Theres more to College Hockey than NCAA Championships, its called pride. And if it wasn't for that model your precious Sioux or the Badgers wouldn't have nearly as many Minnesotans to lean on.
 
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JDUBBS1280 said:
You just summed up the biggest difference in the fanbases right there.

Gopher fans would much rather do it with MN kids, and support the growth of the sport vs the UND way and bring in a bunch of Canadians. Minnesota is the only school thats ever won an NCAA Championship with all instate kids, twice.

Theres more to College Hockey than NCAA Championships, its called pride. And if it wasn't for that model your precious Sioux or the Badgers wouldn't have nearly as many Minnesotans to lean on.
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Your statements contradict each other. You claim that one of the main reasons that North Dakota won titles was because of Canadians, and then you claim that the Sioux lean on Minnesotans.

Anyway, I could care less where the kids come from; I want my school to win titles. I don't go shoving the non-Minnesota way (which is obviously a superior way of winning titles) down your throat, and I don't appreciate you shoving your Minnesota-way down mine. It is extremely annoying, and pointless.
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Your statements contradict each other. You claim that one of the main reasons that North Dakota won titles was because of Canadians, and then you claim that the Sioux lean on Minnesotans.

Anyway, I could care less where the kids come from; I want my school to win titles. I don't go shoving the non-Minnesota way (which is obviously a superior way of winning titles) down your throat, and I don't appreciate you shoving your Minnesota-way down mine. It is extremely annoying, and pointless.
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Dont whine about it, you asked.

And yes your team is almost always comprised of Minnesotans and Canadians, so while you bash the Gopher program just understand its that very program that created the talent pool in MN ultimately leading to what your precious programs leans on for talent.
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Your statements contradict each other. You claim that one of the main reasons that North Dakota won titles was because of Canadians, and then you claim that the Sioux lean on Minnesotans.

Anyway, I could care less where the kids come from; I want my school to win titles. I don't go shoving the non-Minnesota way (which is obviously a superior way of winning titles) down your throat, and I don't appreciate you shoving your Minnesota-way down mine. It is extremely annoying, and pointless.
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And pervasive. These two cannot be in a hockey conversation without bringing it up.

This is exactly why he started a thread (and I sarcastically commented on it) about Herb getting an Icons show. General interest to the broader board? Maybe. But, chance to show the rest of us how great Minnesota hockey is? Exactly.

Should have and could have been in the Gopher thread. Now normally, I'm not the thread police around here, but it's so painfully obvious what he's up to that I have to call him on it.


I also want to win titles. Once they're here, they are Badgers, wherever their hometown was.
 
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