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Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XX - Growth Through Experience

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it's true UW has never swept Mankato (aside - I don't think 06 or 10 teams success or lack thereof in the schedule has anything to do with the current version, as those teams weren't as desperate for points, whereas today's team needs every point it can get and should be playing each shift like it, also UW and Kato were both much better then) and while I don't expect a sweep at this point in the season anymore (esp on the road), at some point they're going to have to do just that in order to get even the slightest consideration. Alaska and Bemidji offer the next best opportunities. If they sweep both and split the rest they end up w/18 wins. 18-20 I think is a bubble team but we'll see.

...those Notre Dame games have really left an impression on me, especially that last one where they outclassed minnesota for basically 57 minutes, even in the speed department. comparing that team to UW this year is reveals quite a bit and that's where my mentions of talent come in (that and remembering how Zent/Schier/Rafalski/Moore/Fairchild/McDonald et all in the past kicked #$$ right out of the box and comparing that to more current teams)

As Eaves noted this week hockey is a funny game. Scoring chances were even Friday and Wisconsin wins 4-0. Saturday, UW out-chances MSU by a 2/1 margin but loses 2-0 (+ empty net).

As for Notre Dame, I'm not sure why you're surprised they are good (If 13-8-3 counts as good). What did they lose (From a team that was in the Frozen Four)?

F-Ryan Guentzel-39 pts (Now in Germany)
F-Calle Ridderwall-25 pts (Now in the AHL)
F-Ben Ryan-25 pts (Now in AHL/ECHL)
D-Joe Lavin-17 pts (Now in AHL)

What did Wisconsin lose off an average team last year?

F-Podge Turnbull-19 pts (Now in ECHL)
F-Patrick Johnson-19 pts (Now in ECHL)
F-Sean Dolan-16 pts (Now in AHL)
D-Craig Johnson-6 pts (out of hockey)
G-Brett Bennett
G-Scott Gudmandson

F-Craig Smith-43 pts (Now in NHL)
F-Jordy Murray-26 pts (Now in Switzerland)
D-Jake Gardiner-40 pts (Now in NHL)

F-Cody Strang-USHL All-Star (didn't qualify academically)

Quick math

Wisconsin loses:

6 seniors, 3 underclassmen, and a recruit off an average team.
169 points, + 2 goaltenders, + whatever Strang would have done.

Notre Dame loses:

4 seniors off a Frozen Four team. 0 underclassmen.
106 points


*Next two seasons are the Badgers years. I said it 2 years ago (& continue to say it), 12-13 and 13-14 could be very special seasons for the Badgers.
 
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Not sure if this is "news" or not, but I saw a story in the Marquette MI paper (discussing NMU and this postseason) noting that Northern would likely be hosting Wisconsin at the Resch Center in Green Bay next season. Apparently in October.

As I said, not sure if this is common knowledge - if so, my apologies.
 
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Not sure if this is "news" or not, but I saw a story in the Marquette MI paper (discussing NMU and this postseason) noting that Northern would likely be hosting Wisconsin at the Resch Center in Green Bay next season. Apparently in October.

As I said, not sure if this is common knowledge - if so, my apologies.

I wasn't aware of it so I appreciate the info. It makes sense given they came to the Kohl Center this season.

So that makes two known non-con series next season.

-Northern Michigan @ Resch Center in October
-Penn State @ Kohl Center February 22-23
 
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My weekends predictions:

Friday: UW 6 UAA 2
Saturday: UW 4 UAA 1

Must need sweep and vs a struggling UAA team.
 
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workmanlike. exactly how it needs to be done for UW tonight. now let's hope they can pull off the sweep!
 
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UW did what they had to do, solid weekend and certainly a bit better than I had expected in terms of getting the sweep. kudos.

bring on the Sioux!
 
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I was at the game last night and the crowd was the worst I have ever been a part of. Other than my 4, little cheering, no urging the boys on, no one chanting "let's go red", other than the depleted student section and band. There were stretches were UW had UAA all bottled up, and the crowd never ramped up and give them extra jump. The WORST was when there was a minute to go in a must win game, the student did the stand up old people, so my 4 stood up, no one else in our section did. The score board was urging us on to get loud, then some arsehole behind me said, "down in front". My head just about exploded with rage. ***** you dude. You're at a freaking hockey game, CHEER. Worse yet, the crowd cheered significantly more for the mite skaters than the UW players. Pathetic. What is wrong with these people?
 
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I was at the game last night and the crowd was the worst I have ever been a part of. Other than my 4, little cheering, no urging the boys on, no one chanting "let's go red", other than the depleted student section and band. There were stretches were UW had UAA all bottled up, and the crowd never ramped up and give them extra jump. The WORST was when there was a minute to go in a must win game, the student did the stand up old people, so my 4 stood up, no one else in our section did. The score board was urging us on to get loud, then some arsehole behind me said, "down in front". My head just about exploded with rage. ***** you dude. You're at a freaking hockey game, CHEER. Worse yet, the crowd cheered significantly more for the mite skaters than the UW players. Pathetic. What is wrong with these people?

Odd. I have season tickets for both nights and I didn't think last night stood out at all, either good or bad. And it definitely wasn't louder for the Mites than the Badgers. Bottom line is you don't get to dictate how others choose to enjoy the game. I almost never stand for the students anymore. If I chanted "sit down, young people" at the start of the game, would they be obligated to obey? I'm glad they're there, I'm glad they bring so much energy, but I buy my tickets, I'll enjoy the game my way, if you don't mind. Well, even if you do, I guess.
 
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Entertaining game last night. The effort was there! I never really focused on Paape until last night; I like the kid. He's fast as hell with a high RPM engine. Rumpel seems to be settling in and obviously has taken over the #1 spot.

RE: the crowd; it was a pretty good crowd (I didn't hear the attendance) with a lot of little kids there, which I don't have a problem with. The more hockey fans the better. There were 2 families next to me who were new to a Badger game. Their kids were following the cheers with me while their parents just looked on! My daughter told me I fit right in with the kids who were "--" years my junior.
However, I do agree with Tim that the fans are QUIET. I never thought I'd see the day that an animated figure comes on the scoreboard and asks for noise.

Bring on The North Dakota Fighting *****.

EDIT: Do we really have to hear Roll out the Barrel 25 times in a row? 3 or 4 times is funny, after that, annoying.

MCR: Young at Heart.
 
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Speaking of the crowd, how did the student section manage to display the large "SIEVE" sign? It seemed a touch bigger than 8 1/2" x 11". Kind of reminded me of days at the Coliseum.

Regarding the crowd and standing, two weeks ago against RIT, my wife was told to sit down by the usher, because she was blocking the view of those in the Nicholas Suites.:mad:
 
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Yeah, maybe the crowds are less enthusiastic than years past, but I still think the fans are good overall. It does seem too quiet at times.

It bugs me a little when they do the scoreboard "noise" graphic, because the fans should know when to make noise by now.

As far as the "stand up old people" chant goes, I always stand ('cause I'm old :D). To me it's the same as any other game tradition and I hate to see empathetic old people sitting on their hands.
 
EDIT: Do we really have to hear Roll out the Barrel 25 times in a row?

No, but a constant stream of people doing anything is far better than not cheering, telling people to sit down, or adding "dick" to everything.

In fact, on the basis of Beer Barrel Polka being such a significant song in Wisconsin (sports) culture, I have no problem with that at all. Perhaps switching to "In Heaven There Is No Beer" at some point would be a relief.
 
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RE: the crowd; it was a pretty good crowd (I didn't hear the attendance) with a lot of little kids there, which I don't have a problem with. The more hockey fans the better. There were 2 families next to me who were new to a Badger game. Their kids were following the cheers with me while their parents just looked on! My daughter told me I fit right in with the kids who were "--" years my junior.
However, I do agree with Tim that the fans are QUIET. I never thought I'd see the day that an animated figure comes on the scoreboard and asks for noise.

Attendance was reported as 13713 for last Saturday. I seem to remember that UW doing some type of promotion for the first home weekend in the 2nd half, either youth hockey or boy scouts (maybe both). I suspect that fans would be more energized if their had been more to be engaged about earlier in the season.
 
Speaking of the crowd, how did the student section manage to display the large "SIEVE" sign? It seemed a touch bigger than 8 1/2" x 11". Kind of reminded me of days at the Coliseum.

Regarding the crowd and standing, two weeks ago against RIT, my wife was told to sit down by the usher, because she was blocking the view of those in the Nicholas Suites.:mad:

They've had the sieve banner almost all year.


And to elaborate on the crowd it was if I recall correctly the most all year and if not the most, it was close to.

Now in to Grand Forks where the Badgers seem to win a lot. I'm hoping for at least 3 points and I believe they can do it.
 
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Wow. Is this a Wisconsin crowd? I thought there was still some passion in this rivalry. I guess not. Sioux sweep.
 
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Odd. I have season tickets for both nights and I didn't think last night stood out at all, either good or bad. And it definitely wasn't louder for the Mites that the Badgers. Bottom line is you don't get to dictate how others choose to enjoy the game. I almost never stand for the students anymore. If I chanted "sit down, young people" at the start of the game, would they be obligated to obey? I'm glad they're there, I'm glad they bring so much energy, but I buy my tickets, I'll enjoy the game my way, if you don't mind. Well, even if you do, I guess.

The stand up old people chant has gotten a little old. They used to do it around the one minute mark, but it's gone to the two and sometimes almost the three minute mark. I stand up when I feel motivated to by the events on the ice, not when some kids who are here now and will be gone within the next couple of years tell me to.

So there!
 
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Wow. Is this a Wisconsin crowd? I thought there was still some passion in this rivalry. I guess not. Sioux sweep.


This isn't the series thread...

And don't you mean ___________ sweep? :p
 
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