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WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, What?

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Gandalf the Red said:
A night or two in a hotel not paid back "promptly" is an improper loan? The NCAA is stretching it there. If they paid it back yesterday because this came up, yes that is bad. If they paid it back even by the end of the summer, the NCAA is a joke (ok more a joke than we already thought).

And I agree w/ Chuck's point in the article about Pulver, how incompetent can they be? It is their job to not put a kid in this situation by something THEY did. I hope he has a new family advisor by now, and any NCAA bound kid stays miles away from their clown shoes agency.
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and with this alleged violation and Wisconsin being involved in shoegate a few years ago it doesn't appear anything good can from it....the UW is marked territory, this shall be interesting
 
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DoorCtyBadgers said:
and with this alleged violation and Wisconsin being involved in shoegate a few years ago it doesn't appear anything good can from it....the UW is marked territory, this shall be interesting
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You're reaching.
 
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Almington said:
If those true natural leaders are so rare, why do other teams have consistently high performance? Are they better at finding and recruiting those leaders, or have they instilled a culture that BUILDS the next leader to take over?
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Maybe those teams have a coach who empowers those leaders - lets them become those leaders.
 
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Almington said:
If those true natural leaders are so rare, why do other teams have consistently high performance? Are they better at finding and recruiting those leaders, or have they instilled a culture that BUILDS the next leader to take over?
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I'm not entirely certain to be honest. If we throw talent out the window (who's winning the recruiting wars (is nodak or mn winning more head to head recruiting battles, etc), who left early, who was projected with more upside/who was more of a project or reach) and assume the levels when all is said and done are equal amongst the 5-6 teams we've thrown in the mix:

I'd suggest they've instilled a culture that helps build the next leader or encourages someone or a group of 2 or 3 to choose that role and run with it.

part of what makes me say the Burish and Rohlik types are rare is the maturity level they showed early, Burish and the frosh marching to Eaves' office to voice support during the Leavitt situation, then later Burish telling Eaves to calm down and taking over the on-ice Coach role. Rohlik and Osieki saw the 1990 team partying too much and after a big meltdown (coincidentally it was against either NMU or MTU I forget which) got the team together to commit to not partying the last 2-3 months of the season (story is in the "Shot In A Goal" book) and focusing on the goal of getting the 5th championship in school history, and that's also when they put up the sign "60 minutes, no alibis, no regrets" iirc...

however those are the more extreme examples for UW... I'm assuming the BC's and Michigan's, Denver's, Nodak's and Minnesota's all have situations where it's implied the role is to be taken up by someone with the dedication and intensity necessary to keep his team in line and focused on the season long goal. Situations where it wouldn't be necessary to have weekly side meetings w/the Coaches to iron out the details of what the team's feeling and what the Coaches want, etc.

it's vexing to me. now that you've gotten me thinking about this from another angle I don't recall in 07 feeling that UW had inferior talent. it was more underwhelming and uneven performances (I know they had 1-2 key injuries that year as well) that resulted in a .500 record which made the end result much more frustrating to watch unfold
 
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Doesn't appear that there will be a Kerdiles decision tonight.
 
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I got a chance to listen to "On Wisconsin" today on the Big 1070, and Brian Posick interviewed Chuck Labahn, the fellow who largely bankrolled the facility named after him. Interestingly, beside the fact that he swam for the UW in WAY back in 1946, was the fact that he's never seen a "hockey match", as he put it. I certainly assumed the guy who the rink is named after actually enjoyed hockey, let alone seen a game or two. Good for him and thanks a ton Mr. Labahn.

Say what you want, but the coach is the undisputed leader of the team. The team takes on the personality of the coach. I think Eaves is very intense and uptight, and his team plays that way. The intensity can be channeled to help come back from being down, but then uptightness is channeled into blowing 3rd period leads and not winning in OT. I think more mature players learn how to be relaxed in that atmosphere, whereas a younger player has a tougher time dealing with it.
 
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Hearing a lot of positive rumors, nothing real reportable. But it's better than hearing negative rumors.
 
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Former & Present Blackhawks will be playing a charity game at Allstate Arena (Rosemont Horizon) next Friday.

Word is that Burish was the chief motivator behind this and you can see a Badger presence on both teams. Good seats are only $35.

I'm seriously considering this. Reunion of the Stanley Cup Hawks and to some degree, the '06 Badgers.


http://blogs.suntimes.com/blackhawks/2012/10/blackhawks_players_to_play_in_.html
 
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Gurtholfin said:
Former & Present Blackhawks will be playing a charity game at Allstate Arena (Rosemont Horizon) next Friday.

Word is that Burish was the chief motivator behind this and you can see a Badger presence on both teams. Good seats are only $35.

I'm seriously considering this. Reunion of the Stanley Cup Hawks and to some degree, the '06 Badgers.


http://blogs.suntimes.com/blackhawks/2012/10/blackhawks_players_to_play_in_.html
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That's great, except for the parts where the Chicago Blackhawks can kiss the fattest part of my ***.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
That's great, except for the parts where the Chicago Blackhawks can kiss the fattest part of my ***.
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Don't worry, maybe someday the North Stars, er, Wild can have a Stanley Cup reunion. Maybe...


:p
 
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If I went to the Hawks player game, it would only be because proceeds are for a charity and so I could boo every one of the jagbags on the ice...especially Mr union rep Toews. Why is it so hard for the NHLPA to understand that every other pro sport in North America shares 48-50% of revenue with their players and the 50/50 split the owners just offered with mechanisms to pay current contracts without a rollback is the middle ground. 3 counteroffers that at best get to 50/50 in 5 years (and at worst never) from now is complete stupidity. Donald flippin' Fehr is the guy you hire as your union president....gee I wonder why were not playing hockey.
 
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Can Kerdilies really be about a hotel room? Football guys get ****e paid for by agents, get caught way after the fact, and make a donation to charity and miss no time at all. And for those talking about shoegate and that somehow having any baring on this....how long ago was that and this is an infraction before a kid was even in the program. The draft was in the Summer and the kid wasn't here until the fall....can't see how UW gets much say so in any of that much less long past transgressions in the mix
 
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Told that a decision is in. Apparently there is a conference call that is taking place now or very soon. I don't know the decision or who is on the conference call.
 
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I got my fingers crossed.
 
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markwojo said:
If I went to the Hawks player game, it would only be because proceeds are for a charity and so I could boo every one of the jagbags on the ice...especially Mr union rep Toews. Why is it so hard for the NHLPA to understand that every other pro sport in North America shares 48-50% of revenue with their players and the 50/50 split the owners just offered with mechanisms to pay current contracts without a rollback is the middle ground. 3 counteroffers that at best get to 50/50 in 5 years (and at worst never) from now is complete stupidity. Donald flippin' Fehr is the guy you hire as your union president....gee I wonder why were not playing hockey.
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I don't understand the idea of choosing not to get paid vs getting paid for what you are very skilled at. Sure the players shouldn't be getting taken advantage of, and I don't think anyone thinks they are getting completely screwed to begin with, but losing most/all of another season will cost them way more money in the long run. Fans don't put up w/ that kind of bullsh*t.

I have very little pity for pro sports, these guys are getting to live almost every male's dream: play sports and get paid handsomely for it. Especially the star players, they will make more in a year than most of us will make in decades of work, I want some humility. That goes for the owners too, they need to get over themselves as well.
 
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Gandalf the Red said:
I don't understand the idea of choosing not to get paid vs getting paid for what you are very skilled at. Sure the players shouldn't be getting taken advantage of, and I don't think anyone thinks they are getting completely screwed to begin with, but losing most/all of another season will cost them way more money in the long run. Fans don't put up w/ that kind of bullsh*t.

I have very little pity for pro sports, these guys are getting to live almost every male's dream: play sports and get paid handsomely for it. Especially the star players, they will make more in a year than most of us will make in decades of work, I want some humility. That goes for the owners too, they need to get over themselves as well.
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It will continue as long as the fans continue to buy tickets. My center ice plan has been canceled for the entire season with no chance of it being renewed. We will review next year as to wether I will renew it or not. I have no pity for either side on this issue. I was contemplating wether to make a couple United Center runs this season and that will not happen. Guess it is Madison high school hockey, junior hockey, and a handful of badger games.
 
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What is taking so long?!?!?!?
 
Re: WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, W

the effing wait is killing me!

also - what's up with Baggot not writing about anything hockey related since 10-13?
 
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