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What will the 2000's be remembered for?
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Re: What will the 2000's be remembered for?
IMO, officiating has become much more difficult due to the drastic increase in the speed of athletes. Due to improved personal training, as a whole, everyone is stronger and faster (UAA withstanding
).
IMO, officiating has become much more difficult due to the drastic increase in the speed of athletes. Due to improved personal training, as a whole, everyone is stronger and faster (UAA withstanding
).Terrierbyassociation
Fight Cancer, Wherever You Find It
Re: What will the 2000's be remembered for?
I think in some sports the officiating can improve. The NHL seems to have improved a lot from the mid to late 90s. Maybe that's rule emphasis but they have seemed to have gotten much better. The MLS can improve big time, but the refs need to be trained better aka soccer is not supposed to be a street fight.
In the NBA, it is clear that most of the refs are completely worthless and there are no attempts to get the refereeing pool younger.
First off, I think refs in all professional sports need to be paid enough to do it full time. This specifically goes toward the NFL where guys have day jobs. Maybe not the MLS because they barely pay some of their players above minimum wage.
Secondly, they need to be adequately educated and stay in great shape. The athletes have improved their physical abilities at a much quicker speed than the officials have. The speed of the game has passed them by, maybe so much as the games can no longer be accurately called.
Thirdly, automatic retirement ages. This forces the leagues to have some sort of impetus to get younger refs into the game.
Four, discipline officials who think the game is about them. Fine them for missed calls if it becomes a regular mistake, but don't make it public.
Five, allow limited media access to officials. And don't be afraid to drop a suspension hammer on an official who even after making a mistake won't come clean and just admit he made a mistake.
No matter what, officials are going to make mistakes from time to time. They're human. In fact sometimes they are trying to make the call and in real time make a call that you think is terrible. Then you see the replay and they're actually right...how often do people give the credit to the official? They often say well he was trying to make the mistake and he couldn't have known that he was down/the ball was fair/etc. Its ridiculous. I will give major props when an official does well when I see it but of course I will bash them when they miss them, I think we all know that.
The big problem is that all the major leagues don't seem to be taking a stand to make their leagues look better by raising the bar when it comes to officiating. MLB keeps these guys like Joe West on and not only do you keep them on you give them playoff assignments. There have to be standards in place to protect the quality of the playoffs.
If the professional leagues make a change you will see a trickle-down effect to collegiate sports.
I think in some sports the officiating can improve. The NHL seems to have improved a lot from the mid to late 90s. Maybe that's rule emphasis but they have seemed to have gotten much better. The MLS can improve big time, but the refs need to be trained better aka soccer is not supposed to be a street fight.
In the NBA, it is clear that most of the refs are completely worthless and there are no attempts to get the refereeing pool younger.
First off, I think refs in all professional sports need to be paid enough to do it full time. This specifically goes toward the NFL where guys have day jobs. Maybe not the MLS because they barely pay some of their players above minimum wage.
Secondly, they need to be adequately educated and stay in great shape. The athletes have improved their physical abilities at a much quicker speed than the officials have. The speed of the game has passed them by, maybe so much as the games can no longer be accurately called.
Thirdly, automatic retirement ages. This forces the leagues to have some sort of impetus to get younger refs into the game.
Four, discipline officials who think the game is about them. Fine them for missed calls if it becomes a regular mistake, but don't make it public.
Five, allow limited media access to officials. And don't be afraid to drop a suspension hammer on an official who even after making a mistake won't come clean and just admit he made a mistake.
No matter what, officials are going to make mistakes from time to time. They're human. In fact sometimes they are trying to make the call and in real time make a call that you think is terrible. Then you see the replay and they're actually right...how often do people give the credit to the official? They often say well he was trying to make the mistake and he couldn't have known that he was down/the ball was fair/etc. Its ridiculous. I will give major props when an official does well when I see it but of course I will bash them when they miss them, I think we all know that.
The big problem is that all the major leagues don't seem to be taking a stand to make their leagues look better by raising the bar when it comes to officiating. MLB keeps these guys like Joe West on and not only do you keep them on you give them playoff assignments. There have to be standards in place to protect the quality of the playoffs.
If the professional leagues make a change you will see a trickle-down effect to collegiate sports.
Re: What will the 2000's be remembered for?
- the "Progressive" movement
- Reality TV
- 9/11 and subsequent wars
- Obama
- sex becoming less taboo with young kids
- *shudder*...the Red Sox winning the World Series
- PCness at an all time high
- Women dominating the workplace...because they can
- Gas prices skyrocketing to 4 bucks a gallon
- Al Gore and the "green" movement
- the "Progressive" movement
- Reality TV
- 9/11 and subsequent wars
- Obama
- sex becoming less taboo with young kids
- *shudder*...the Red Sox winning the World Series
- PCness at an all time high
- Women dominating the workplace...because they can
- Gas prices skyrocketing to 4 bucks a gallon
- Al Gore and the "green" movement
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
Re: What will the 2000's be remembered for?
Even though it was for just one year of this decade, I think having the first black president will go down as one of the biggest moments of this decade.
Also, I think Boston will be remembered as the sports city of the decade with the Patriots and Red Sox winning mutiple championships and the Celtics picking up one as well.
Even though it was for just one year of this decade, I think having the first black president will go down as one of the biggest moments of this decade.
Also, I think Boston will be remembered as the sports city of the decade with the Patriots and Red Sox winning mutiple championships and the Celtics picking up one as well.
bostonewe
Short/Round
Re: What will the 2000's be remembered for?
What about BU and BC winning back to back titles?
Puck Swami
New member
Re: What will the 2000's be remembered for?
-America's slow descent from global leader into global player
-Technology gains connecting us and isolating us at the same time
-Polarized, partisan politics killing national interests from within
-Morphing of objective journalism into partisan journalism
-Decline of public trust in corporations and government
-America electing an African American president for the first time
-Old economic models now no longer predictive
-The end of the long distance phone call as a financial reality
-Travel to new countries becomes far less exotic due to globalization
- Increasing speed of news dissemination eliminating accuracy and analysis
-The slow death of the newspaper as a dominant medium
-The end of the good life for high school graduates unless they go to college
-College educations moves from a nice-to-have to a must-have
-Graduate degree replaces bachelor's degree as a ticket to upper level jobs
-Growth of online/distance education
-Cleavage becomes mainstream fashion
-The decline of the traditional white male
-Drugs for almost every condition, from depression to erectile dysfunction to toe fungus
-Reality TV becomes dominant over sitcoms and scripted drama
-Movies become targeted primarily at teenage boys
-Animation becomes nearly life like
-Air Travel becomes increasingly cumbersome and unpleasant
-The rise of China, India and Brazil into serious economic players
-Growth of football, soccer and MMA, decline of hockey, boxing, baseball
-Rise of diversity and identity politics and general tolerance of difference
-Rise of Gay acceptance and into mainstream society and gay marriage becoming legal
-AIDS no longer a death sentence due to drug advances
-Many kinds of cancer are now more treatable, less cancer deaths
-Music and DVD downloads spelling the end of CDs, record and video stores
-Rise of environmental consciousness
-Growth of instant and manufactured fame vs fame attained via merit
-The end of pensions in America
-America becoming multi-lingual as hispanic population increases
-Women now dominating college graduation rates
-Failure of drug war now leading to softening of drug laws
-Europe's innability to make much progress beyond a common currency
-Large gains in third world connections to rest of world
-Obesity boom as big portion sizes, cheap/delicious food and sedentary lifestyles converge
-Mobile telephony and computing changing the way we live and work
-Continued blurring of the lines between work and private life
-The end of traditional retirement
-Assymetrical warfare and growth of terrorism
-Growth of light rail systems in urban areas
-The decline of public smoking and the near end of tobacco advertising visbility
-Decline of space program from relevance
-Online and big box shopping destroying main street retail and hurting shopping malls
-Serious stratification between 'haves' and 'have nots'
-Decline of mainstream religions and the rise of fanaticism on fringes
-Growth of new urban villages and exurbs changing population dynamics
-Decline of average attention span and growth of multi-tasking
-Much more ethnic food choices changing the way we eat
-Professional sports pricing average person out of live attendance
-Incredible gains in medical imaging, less invasive surgery and more targeted therapies
-Growth of HDTV, gaming, DVRs and channel choices keeping people at home
-Fascination with celebrity lifestyles to never-before-seen levels
-America's slow descent from global leader into global player
-Technology gains connecting us and isolating us at the same time
-Polarized, partisan politics killing national interests from within
-Morphing of objective journalism into partisan journalism
-Decline of public trust in corporations and government
-America electing an African American president for the first time
-Old economic models now no longer predictive
-The end of the long distance phone call as a financial reality
-Travel to new countries becomes far less exotic due to globalization
- Increasing speed of news dissemination eliminating accuracy and analysis
-The slow death of the newspaper as a dominant medium
-The end of the good life for high school graduates unless they go to college
-College educations moves from a nice-to-have to a must-have
-Graduate degree replaces bachelor's degree as a ticket to upper level jobs
-Growth of online/distance education
-Cleavage becomes mainstream fashion
-The decline of the traditional white male
-Drugs for almost every condition, from depression to erectile dysfunction to toe fungus
-Reality TV becomes dominant over sitcoms and scripted drama
-Movies become targeted primarily at teenage boys
-Animation becomes nearly life like
-Air Travel becomes increasingly cumbersome and unpleasant
-The rise of China, India and Brazil into serious economic players
-Growth of football, soccer and MMA, decline of hockey, boxing, baseball
-Rise of diversity and identity politics and general tolerance of difference
-Rise of Gay acceptance and into mainstream society and gay marriage becoming legal
-AIDS no longer a death sentence due to drug advances
-Many kinds of cancer are now more treatable, less cancer deaths
-Music and DVD downloads spelling the end of CDs, record and video stores
-Rise of environmental consciousness
-Growth of instant and manufactured fame vs fame attained via merit
-The end of pensions in America
-America becoming multi-lingual as hispanic population increases
-Women now dominating college graduation rates
-Failure of drug war now leading to softening of drug laws
-Europe's innability to make much progress beyond a common currency
-Large gains in third world connections to rest of world
-Obesity boom as big portion sizes, cheap/delicious food and sedentary lifestyles converge
-Mobile telephony and computing changing the way we live and work
-Continued blurring of the lines between work and private life
-The end of traditional retirement
-Assymetrical warfare and growth of terrorism
-Growth of light rail systems in urban areas
-The decline of public smoking and the near end of tobacco advertising visbility
-Decline of space program from relevance
-Online and big box shopping destroying main street retail and hurting shopping malls
-Serious stratification between 'haves' and 'have nots'
-Decline of mainstream religions and the rise of fanaticism on fringes
-Growth of new urban villages and exurbs changing population dynamics
-Decline of average attention span and growth of multi-tasking
-Much more ethnic food choices changing the way we eat
-Professional sports pricing average person out of live attendance
-Incredible gains in medical imaging, less invasive surgery and more targeted therapies
-Growth of HDTV, gaming, DVRs and channel choices keeping people at home
-Fascination with celebrity lifestyles to never-before-seen levels
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unofan
Well-known member
Re: What will the 2000's be remembered for?
Only if you can tell me what the sports city of the 30's and 80's were off the top of your head.
Otherwise, yeah, no it won't. You might remember it as such, but the general population won't give a rats ***** about it in 20 years.
Only if you can tell me what the sports city of the 30's and 80's were off the top of your head.
Otherwise, yeah, no it won't. You might remember it as such, but the general population won't give a rats ***** about it in 20 years.
DisplacedCornellian
Let's Go Red!
Re: What will the 2000's be remembered for?
Internet pr0n.
Internet pr0n.
bottomdweller
Where my dogsies at?
Re: What will the 2000's be remembered for?
UNO fan is right... so if people aren't going to remember that titles were won by the big guys, no one but BC and BU students will care about those two titles...
UNO fan is right... so if people aren't going to remember that titles were won by the big guys, no one but BC and BU students will care about those two titles...
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: What will the 2000's be remembered for?
Very interesting topic.
IMO, the 2000's are an extension of a 50+ year long transitional period, so people looking from a hundred years out won't identify the period with anything distinct. In 2009 we are still living in the epoch that began with WWI: the dominant European empires have collapsed and been replaced by democratic governments, colonialism has reversed polarity and the "left behind" 9/10ths of world has begun to emerge, the age of coal has given way to the age of oil, America bestrides the globe militarily, economically and culturally, flight and telecomm are revolutionary changes that make every point on earth adjacent. From a macro-historical world view 2009 is not significantly different from 1919.
I have no idea what will signal the eventual end of this period, or whether it will end gradually like the close of the middle ages or with a bang like the close of the European world system. I don't think we are anywhere close to an important shift... but they probably didn't think they were in 1913 either.
Very interesting topic.
IMO, the 2000's are an extension of a 50+ year long transitional period, so people looking from a hundred years out won't identify the period with anything distinct. In 2009 we are still living in the epoch that began with WWI: the dominant European empires have collapsed and been replaced by democratic governments, colonialism has reversed polarity and the "left behind" 9/10ths of world has begun to emerge, the age of coal has given way to the age of oil, America bestrides the globe militarily, economically and culturally, flight and telecomm are revolutionary changes that make every point on earth adjacent. From a macro-historical world view 2009 is not significantly different from 1919.
I have no idea what will signal the eventual end of this period, or whether it will end gradually like the close of the middle ages or with a bang like the close of the European world system. I don't think we are anywhere close to an important shift... but they probably didn't think they were in 1913 either.
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Re: What will the 2000's be remembered for?
I think Swami's list is outstanding...
I would add (unless I just missed them)
-The further decline in personal responsibility for anything and the continued rise of finding somebody else to blame for everything
-Parenting reaching new lows in terms of teaching kids judgment, finances, work ethic and accountability
-The semi-apology or non-apology apology
-Tanning salons, nail salons and dollar stores becoming the new magnet retailers
-The near extinction of the private bookstore
I think Swami's list is outstanding...
I would add (unless I just missed them)
-The further decline in personal responsibility for anything and the continued rise of finding somebody else to blame for everything
-Parenting reaching new lows in terms of teaching kids judgment, finances, work ethic and accountability
-The semi-apology or non-apology apology
-Tanning salons, nail salons and dollar stores becoming the new magnet retailers
-The near extinction of the private bookstore
nmupiccdiva
New member
Re: What will the 2000's be remembered for?
These two tie for the win, followed closely by Dirty's brilliant contribution...
These two tie for the win, followed closely by Dirty's brilliant contribution...
FadeToBlack&Gold
Kettle Medallion
Re: What will the 2000's be remembered for?
My thoughts, some of which have already been stated. This is probably what I will remember the most in about 50 years...
-Indecision 2000, Bush II & the election of Obama
-9/11 and major events that happened as a result, both directly and indirectly
-The first major economic crisis of many young people's lifetimes (including my own), and the fallout from it
-The decline of traditional news sources and increasing dominance of sensationalist, 24-hour disasterathon networks and their websites
-The concept of a "Digital Age" beginning to take full shape
-The Internet finally becoming what it was originally envisioned to be - a true "read/write" method of communication and information sharing (Wikipedia, blogs, feature-packed message boards, etc.)
-For that matter, the rise of social networking sites (in particular Twitter, Facebook & MySpace).
-YouTube
-The increasing importance of earning not only a bachelor's degree, but also a master's degree
-More Americans beginning to take notice of environmental concerns, due to legitimate issues such as our heavy dependence upon oil imported from hostile foreign countries.
-Disrespect/disregard for good writing skills and quality literature reaching an all-time high. I attribute this primarily to ever increasing laziness, modern communication methods like e-mail and texting which encourage informality & sloppiness, and modern entertainments such as video games and the Internet which compete with books.
-The tumultuous music industry. Increased levels of genre-blur on commercial radio resulting in a big "mainstream melting pot". Subscription-based satellite radio which offers ad-free stations that cater to even the most specific tastes. Piracy, iTunes, MP3 players, and the end of traditional distribution networks. A resulting second generation of "DIY" bands who seized upon the advantages of computers and the Internet to record, engineer, mix, package, and sell (or even just give away) their own music without any record deal and on a barebones budget. There will probably never be another underground music circuit like there was in the 80s because of all this new technology.
-Harry Potter mania
And, as always...
-Politicians continuing to be politicians
My thoughts, some of which have already been stated. This is probably what I will remember the most in about 50 years...
-Indecision 2000, Bush II & the election of Obama
-9/11 and major events that happened as a result, both directly and indirectly
-The first major economic crisis of many young people's lifetimes (including my own), and the fallout from it
-The decline of traditional news sources and increasing dominance of sensationalist, 24-hour disasterathon networks and their websites
-The concept of a "Digital Age" beginning to take full shape
-The Internet finally becoming what it was originally envisioned to be - a true "read/write" method of communication and information sharing (Wikipedia, blogs, feature-packed message boards, etc.)
-For that matter, the rise of social networking sites (in particular Twitter, Facebook & MySpace).
-YouTube
-The increasing importance of earning not only a bachelor's degree, but also a master's degree
-More Americans beginning to take notice of environmental concerns, due to legitimate issues such as our heavy dependence upon oil imported from hostile foreign countries.
-Disrespect/disregard for good writing skills and quality literature reaching an all-time high. I attribute this primarily to ever increasing laziness, modern communication methods like e-mail and texting which encourage informality & sloppiness, and modern entertainments such as video games and the Internet which compete with books.
-The tumultuous music industry. Increased levels of genre-blur on commercial radio resulting in a big "mainstream melting pot". Subscription-based satellite radio which offers ad-free stations that cater to even the most specific tastes. Piracy, iTunes, MP3 players, and the end of traditional distribution networks. A resulting second generation of "DIY" bands who seized upon the advantages of computers and the Internet to record, engineer, mix, package, and sell (or even just give away) their own music without any record deal and on a barebones budget. There will probably never be another underground music circuit like there was in the 80s because of all this new technology.
-Harry Potter mania
And, as always...
-Politicians continuing to be politicians
Re: What will the 2000's be remembered for?
Swing and a ground ball stabbed by Foulke.
He has it.
He underhands to first and the Boston Red Sox are the World Champions.
For the first time in 86 years the Red Sox have won baseball's World Championship.
Can you believe it?
Swing and a ground ball stabbed by Foulke.
He has it.
He underhands to first and the Boston Red Sox are the World Champions.
For the first time in 86 years the Red Sox have won baseball's World Championship.
Can you believe it?
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: What will the 2000's be remembered for?
I'd honestly already forgotten.
Interesting that despite the 24 Hour News Cycle's attempt to turn every story involving a missing white baby into the Lindbergh Kidnapping, nobody mentioned a "human interest" story.
I'd honestly already forgotten.
Interesting that despite the 24 Hour News Cycle's attempt to turn every story involving a missing white baby into the Lindbergh Kidnapping, nobody mentioned a "human interest" story.
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Re: What will the 2000's be remembered for?
There!
OprahI'd honestly already forgotten.
Interesting that despite the 24 Hour News Cycle's attempt to turn every story involving a missing white baby into the Lindbergh Kidnapping, nobody mentioned a "human interest" story.
There!