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What the Fark 2: That Was... Interesting.

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Can't say it for sure, but given the territory I'm guessing this doofus probably had the safety disengaged, while indoors no less. Being actually loaded while indoors is up for debate - personally, I was always trained that you don't load until you've exited whatever building you're in, but then again, I've never felt the need to carry except for hunting or target shooting purposes. Huh, imagine that.

When I do carry (not really all that often) I carry my pistol unchambered. Yes, the magazine is loaded and in, but the slide has not been racked so there is not a round in the firing chamber. Under ND Law (62.1-01-01, sub-paragraph 16) I'm considered "unloaded" in that condition.

No round in the firing chamber is the best safety. Apparently someone missed that day of safety training.
 
The problem with people like BoB is that no matter how many people correct him, explain things to him, his type never have that "A-ha!" moment where they realize "Gee, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I need to learn more about this." Instead, he'll continue to think he's the next great discoverer and continue to big an ignorant idiot.
I think Neil is looking more to educate those that read the crap and go "well maybe..." than BOB himself.

You are correct that people like BOB will never have that "Oh..." moment. It's a sad symptom of people who are committed to ridiculous beliefs.

Plus, Neil deGrasse Tyson picked the Enterprise over the Millennium Falcon. His credibility is shot completely to hell after that. :p ;)
Well, the Enterprise is more of space exploration/science vessel. Bias you know?
 
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From today's WaPo Ask Carolyn

Q: Honesty?
Hi Carolyn, When someone tells you something strange about themselves, how long do you give yourself to react? And how do you act around them while you are figuring it out? My husband of ten years recently came out to me as a trans woman. She says she is a lesbian, and wants to stay and make it work. I am trying to be supportive, but I am feeling betrayed and weirded out and I'm pretty sure I'm not a lesbian. When I hide my confusion, she's ecstatically happy to be her real self: when I mention some aspect of my unhappiness, she goes very quiet. I feel sad and alone and confused and I don't know how much of that to let show. I thought I had a best friend, and that we told each other everything, but apparently not. Should I "fake it until I make it", or let myself flinch when she tried to hug me while dressed as a woman, or something in between? Separating is not an option: we have two small children who adore both their parents (and are unconcerned about daddy in a dress).

A: Carolyn Hax
Please look into the Straight Spouse Network (LINK). You need someone to talk to, and to help you figure out how to be the legitimately difficult combination of shocked, supportive, sad, lonely, loving and confused--put "justifiably" before each, for good measure--all while being a seamless co-parent of young children, as you figure out what to do next.

As for your specific question, you take the time you need--and you say as much to your spouse. "I am not ready for hugs," said kindly, is perfectly fair in a situation like this. She has had a lifetime to process this and only just now has embraced it; you've had just weeks or days. You can say that, too, again with kindness. You can also assure her that you see she is ecstatic to be her real self, and you are supportive of that--it's just that what it means for you is a lot more complicated. So she goes quiet; being supportive doesn't mean it's your job to protect her by not showing any feelings of your own. You can be both thoughtful and real.

This is down the road for you for sure, but you, too, probably need to consider the one thing you ruled out: "Separating is not an option." It may make sense for now. Stability isn't just important for kids; it can also help you think more clearly about your next step.

But as you say, you're straight, and can't be expected to remain in a marriage now that you realize it is not a hetero one. You can choose to stay, ultimately, of course--but staying is hardly your only option, even as you raise children together. Loving and supporting each other as people and parents means you can do this. Your separate homes can be in the same town, same street, same building. Why not?
 
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What has you confused, joe, the question or the answer?

ETA: Also, Kepler's post just prior to yours is also a pretty good reply to that situation.
 
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Part A.

OOPS! My naivete. I thought hubby had a sex change, not a cross dresser
 
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Part A.

OOPS! My naivete. I thought hubby had a sex change, not a cross dresser

She's neither a sex change nor a cross-dresser. She's a trans lesbian.

He'd be a cross-dresser if he identified as a man but liked wearing women's clothes (Ed Wood, J. Edgar Hoover).

She'd have had a sex change if... she had a sex change! (Caitlyn Jenner -- maybe. She's done various surgeries upstairs but I don't know whether she went downstairs too.)

But she's simply somebody who was born with male parts who sees herself as a woman attracted to women. My understanding (which is far from encyclopedic) is that many (most?) trans people do not go through sex reassignment surgery and hormonal treatments, which are very expensive and unpleasant. I suspect they already have enough to deal with.

I know it seems strange to those of us who are (1) old and (2) haven't been reading queer studies for the last 30 years, but the thing it isn't is complicated. All those terms are actually quite distinct and precise.
 
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I couldn't care less about someone feeling like the parts don't match - people gotta be people and if he identifies with being a woman no worries, but until the parts are changed please refer to that person as a he. I think 'he'd' get more buy-in in that regard to be honest from those that are thrown off.

btw I fully recognize the counter-argument to my statement. If he feels he's a woman trapped in a dude's body why not say, "she"? I wouldn't pound my fist on the table in favor of my opinion, but I actually could see some value of going with, "he" but saying you want to be a "she". I understand the draggers will be up in arms regardless, but some on the fence might see it more openly.
 
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I am what I say I am, you are what you say you are. Only the person themselves gets a vote -- everybody else can pound sand.
 
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As I said I am ok with that argument - just an outsiders observation.
 
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