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WCHA Thread IV

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Okay...I'll ask. Are we talking about initial actions due to poor sportsmanship after a tough, emotional loss?

I can't make a call in this one Brook because I actually missed last night's game. I am sort of glad I was not there now. Went to a HS playoff game last night and I am paying for it today! HS football is kind of a big deal here in Ohio and the wife's alma mater was playing last night. Anyway, I will be there today. I imagine the attendance in the stands will be increased ... by about 19. Based on the box score, we are going to have issues on the blue line ... and Lisa Steffes will get the start in goal. That is, unless some rule allows the teams to stagger these suspensions. Someone who knows the rulebook better than I do will have to fill us in on that.
 
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Final From Friday, November 8th
Bemidji State 3
Ohio State 2


Rare 5x3 Shorty Propels Bemidji to Victory
Midway through the 2nd Period, the Buckeyes held a 1-0 lead and had a lengthy 5x3 PP opportunity. It truly looked like the Buckeyes were about to take control of the game. Instead, a nice 2 on 1 counterattack resulted in a tying goal for Bemidji. From there, the Beavers road a wave of momentum, bagging 2 more goals in the next 8 minutes. The Buckeyes battled back gamely in the 3rd period, but were only able to add a single tally.

Regrettably, this game will be remembered for the altercation that occurred just after the final horn. As both teams skated to congratulate or console their respective goalies, a confrontation transpired at the Bemidji blue line that quickly enveloped both teams. I've got to believe that a number of players from both squads will be DQed from tomorrow's game. The accomplishments noted below will most likely be forgotten in all the excitement. That's a shame, because the players listed certainly deserve the recognition.


Three Stars of the Game: Decidedly Unofficial and Just For Fun

#3 Star: Hanna Moher, Bemidji State
The eventual GWG came off Hanna's stick, and it was certainly no gimme. I'd describe it as a "3rd Effort" goal. Moher battled through a tough Buckeye defense, slid across the slot and finally scored off her own rebound.

#2 Star: Kayla Sullivan, Ohio State
Sully nailed the lower left hand corner of the net with a well-placed, ice hugging shot. Kayla's goal capped a nice rush started by Kari Schmitt, along with a give and go pass from Danielle Gagne.

#1 Star: Tess Dusik, Bemidji State
Tess may be listed as a 3rd Line Center, but she's so much more than that. Using her wide wingspan to excellent advantage, Dusik logs plenty of minutes both 5x5 and on special teams. Her special teams effort today culminated in the 3x5 goal described above. Now I've seen a lot of hockey of the years, but I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a 3x5 tally. This one was worth the wait. Receiving a fine pass across the goal mouth from Ivana Bilic, Tess pounded the puck into the right side of the net.

Granted, the altercation will be long remembered. But the Dusik shorty provided the crucial turning point of the game.

Next Up: Rematch with Bemidji State; Face-off at 4:07 PM (EST) Expect reduced numbers on both benches.

Hate to miss a home game, but I am almost glad I didn't see this one. It will be nice to get to the rink today, though. Our backs are against the wall at this point, despite still being in 5th place and only a couple points out of 4th. Nothing to do but come out, play the game the right way, and try to get back on track. So, based on the box score, sounds like coach might have to have some forwards play D today, huh?
 
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Okay...I'll ask. Are we talking about initial actions due to poor sportsmanship after a tough, emotional loss?
This deserves an answer. While I have no particular desire to post on this sort of thing, I am apparently the only one on the board who saw what transpired.

I don't want to glorify in any way what happened, nor do I want to unjustly condemn anyone simply caught up in a sudden occurrence. Also, a lot went on simultaneously; so I may not have the full story. For these reasons, I'm not going to mention any names or numbers. I do want to give the USCHO community a general idea of what happened, and even more importantly what didn't happen.

Eyewitness Account:
As time was winding down, the Buckeyes were pressing hard to score an equalizing goal. With about 15 seconds to go, a quality chance went wide short side, rebounding all the way to the neutral zone. After a cross ice pass, the Buckeyes tried to re-enter the offensive zone at the left point. They were met there by a Bemidji player, who was correctly defending the blue line. She disrupted the play enough to create a scrum along the left wing boards. Because the other Bemidji players were holding their defensive positions, Buckeyes outnumbered Beavers in the scrum. Obviously the Buckeyes were desperately trying to dig the puck out to get one final shot on goal, so sending numbers into the scrum was also a correct play.

As the final horn sounded, the puck slid into the neutral zone and several players peeled away from the scrum. Unfortunately two OSU players and the original Bemidji player continued to jaw at each other. While I have no idea as to the precise words that were said, it's likely they would fall under the category of poor sportsmanship. Anyhow, as bad luck would have it, the next closest player was also a Buckeye. That painted an ugly picture of three OSU players surrounding one Bemidji skater.

In the meantime, the player benches had emptied for the normal post-game rituals. The rest of the players were headed for their respective goalkeepers, initially unaware of the ongoing debate. Then one the Bemidji players noticed the situation and abruptly changed directions. I do not blame the Bemidji player for her reaction. This was not some sort of premeditated attack. She saw a teammate in trouble, and instinctively went to help. Unfortunately, most of her teammates reflexively followed suit.

Now, on the Buckeye end of the ice, an even uglier picture emerged. Three teammates, outnumbered several times over, were in deep trouble. The Buckeye players also reacted immediately and reflexively, and the "meet and greet" was on.

Interpretation/Analysis:

1. If this had happened at ANY other time of the game, the "debate" would have been quickly broken up and would already be forgotten. No one would have left the bench to start an altercation, IMHO. But because we had just entered the postgame period, both squads were already on the ice.

2. Had there not been the ugly images of teammates outnumbered and in trouble, the situation would not have escalated.

3. The game was hotly contested, and by some accounts a bit chippy. But nothing that happened during the 60 minutes that would have predicted a brawl. People were yelling for more penalties -- penalties like holding and delay of game. If anything truly viscous happened during the game, I missed it.

4. Order was restored relatively quickly, all things considered. The penalties assessed were perfectly appropriate, given a zero tolerance standard for fighting. But this was not the bad old days of 1970's professional hockey.

That's my take. I've done my best to be accurate and fair to all sides. Apologies if I've fallen short.


The Three Stars for Saturday's game will go up later tonight. Rest assured that there was much to be proud of in Saturday's contest, and that getting back to that type of posting will be a welcome relief.
 
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pgb-ohio, without having seen the melee myself, your account of what transpired seems very fair and impartial, without assessing blame to any particular individual or individuals. I am, however, left wondering why - after the final horn ending the game has sounded - an "outnumbered teammate" should be in any sort of "trouble" if said teammate did not do anything to instigate the trouble. Or, perhaps that outnumbered player did do something to provoke a reaction, which in turn led to a chain reaction that spun out of control. Perhaps the league will investigate further, but more likely the penalties assessed will be the end of it, and cooler heads will prevail when the two teams meet again in Bemidji.

Whatever happens, thanks very much for taking the time to post your account.
 
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pgb-ohio, without having seen the melee myself, your account of what transpired seems very fair and impartial, without assessing blame to any particular individual or individuals.
I appreciate the vote of confidence.

I am, however, left wondering why - after the final horn ending the game has sounded - an "outnumbered teammate" should be in any sort of "trouble" if said teammate did not do anything to instigate the trouble. Or, perhaps that outnumbered player did do something to provoke a reaction, which in turn led to a chain reaction that spun out of control.
I've got to believe that something was said or done in the scrum. What or by whom, I simply don't know.

Monday Evening Edit: OK, I've seen the YouTube footage posted by TonyTheTiger. You only get a brief glimpse. But it appears that right as the game is ending, a Buckeye whiffs on a stick lift and strikes a Bemidji player in the facemask or throat. The Bemidji player has her head down, making her especially vulnerable to that sort of stray stick. Perhaps that contact triggered the post-game "festivities."

Perhaps the league will investigate further, but more likely the penalties assessed will be the end of it, and cooler heads will prevail when the two teams meet again in Bemidji.
Cooler heads prevailed Saturday. Here's to hoping that remains true next February.

Whatever happens, thanks very much for taking the time to post your account.
You're very welcome.
 
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Unofficial Three Stars of the Game

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Final From Saturday, November 9th
Bemidji State 2
Ohio State 2
(Bemidji State Wins Shootout 1-0)


Both Teams Pass Gut Check; Bemidji Grabs Shootout Win
10 skaters per team. 2 sets of forwards; 2 sets of D. Everyone plays half the game. The DQs imposed at the conclusion of Friday's game dictated the format.

Some played out of position. Others took on unaccustomed leadership roles. Everyone faced a significant physical challenge. And naturally with both teams shorthanded, the game was destined to go to overtime and a shootout.

There were some exhausted faces on the ice to be sure; but everyone persevered to the end. OK, there were more icings than usual. And yes, both timeouts were used. But the pace was quick and hardworking. The battles in the corners and the slot took place as usual. Gut check? Everyone passed with flying colors. As a supporter of Women's Hockey, I'm sincerely proud of every player on that ice -- for both teams.


Three Stars of the Game: Decidedly Unofficial and Just For Fun

Honorable Mention: Every Player on Both Teams (See Above)


#3 Star: Whitney Wivoda, Bemidji State
Whitney had the only goal of the shootout, earning the extra point for the Beavers. The lefthanded shooter skated wide to the right, then moved back across the slot. The patient Wivoda got the Buckeye keeper to commit first, then calmly lifted the puck into the net.

#2 Star: Danielle Gagne, Ohio State
Danielle scored a spectacular goal deep into the 3rd period to tie the game at two, and ultimately earn a point in the standings for the Buckeyes. The play begin with a breakout pass from Bryanna Neuwald, who promptly stepped into the bench for a change. From there, Becky Allis skated the puck into the center circle, then smartly reversed the flow with a quick dish to Gagne at the blue line. On her way into the offensive zone, Danielle literally beat all three Bemidji forwards. Finally getting free in the high slot, her rifled shot split the Bemidji D, and blew by the surprised Bemidji goalie. Very cool goal.

#1 Star: Allie Duellman, Bemidji State
Allie recorded the Beavers' second tally on the power play. The scoring sequence unfolded with Tess Dusik gaining the blue line, then leaving a drop pass for Kristine Grenier. With a counterclockwise spin move, Grenier steered the puck back to Duellman at the left point. Allie's blast through traffic was nice marksmanship. But even more important than the goal, Duellman was a stabilizing force on the blue line all afternoon long. I guess this isn't really a surprise; the senior leader wears a 'C.' Obviously Bemidji chooses its captains wisely.


Next Up: Home Series With Minnesota-Duluth; Face-off at 3:07 PM (EST) Both Days. Special Schottenstein Center Series!
 
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Final From Friday, November 15th
Minnesota-Duluth 3
Ohio State 2


Bulldogs Start Quickly; Hold Off Buckeye Comeback
In the last 12 minutes the opening period, the Bulldogs exploded for three goals with a series of strong, well placed shots. Did that leave the Buckeyes with a tall mountain to climb? Let's say it felt like one of the Swiss Alps.

And yet, the Buckeyes strapped on the gear and began the ascent. Bagging a pair of second period goals, they closed the margin to 3-2. But then the Bulldog defense stiffened, and the grade became too steep -- leaving the Buckeyes just short of the summit.


Three Stars of the Game: Decidedly Unofficial and Just For Fun

UMD Honorable Mention: Tea Villila
Effective on defense all afternoon long, Tea also started the scoring play on 2 of the Bulldog goals.

Ohio State Honorable Mention: Sara Schmitt
The Schmitt sisters continue to score from up high, and it's invaluable. This time Sara nailed the long range shot.

#3 Star: Kayla Black, Minnesota-Duluth
Kayla was terrific in the net, particularly with her quick glove hand. I'm still trying to figure out how she stopped that point blank shot from Kendall Curtis.

#2 Star: Katie Matheny, Ohio State
When a player scores her first goal as a Buckeye, it's always memorable. But Katie's tremendous individual effort would have been noteworthy at either #1 or #100. The play began with her shot block just inside the defensive blue line. Matheny then carried the puck the length of the ice. Reaching the slot, she buried the puck just inside the post on the stick side. Great work, Katie. We look forward to the next 99. :)

#1 Star: Lara Stalder, Minnesota-Duluth
Another recruiting coup for UMD: Tapping the Swiss National team has given the Bulldogs an outstanding addition in the person of Lara Stalder.

Setting the tone for the game, Lara broke up a 3 on 1 rush -- and triggered the first goal. A routine play suddenly became dangerous when a Bulldog teammate fell. But Stalder broke up a cross slot pass with the shaft of her stick. Not content to merely make the defensive stop, she steered the puck in the direction of Demi Crossman. Crossman carried the puck all the way to the attack zone, then fed Jamie Kenyon. Kenyon made no mistake with her shot, drilling the upper righthand corner of the net.

On the second goal, Lara proved that she too was a sniper. As Hannah Bramm patiently waited, Stalder found some found some open ice as the 3rd attacker. Receiving a perfect cross-ice pass from Bramm, she blasted the puck into the upper lefthand corner.

Confidential to Lara: Your hometown of Luzern is a beautiful place. But next time you ask us to climb Mt. Pilatus, we'll be taking the Cogwheel Railway, thank you very much. ;)


Next Up: The Three Stars From Saturday's Game
 
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Final From Friday, November 15th
Minnesota-Duluth 3
Ohio State 2


In the last 12 minutes the opening period, the Bulldogs exploded for three goals with a series of strong, well placed shots. Did that leave the Buckeyes with a tall mountain to climb? Let's say it felt like one of the Swiss Alps.

And yet, the Buckeyes strapped on the gear and began the ascent. Bagging a pair of second period goals, they closed the margin to 3-2. But then the Bulldog defense stiffened, and the grade became too steep -- leaving the Buckeyes just short of the summit.

Great writing...very well done!
 
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I'm still trying to figure out how she stopped that point black shot from Kendall Curtis

Some situations in a goaltender's world are less than completely under control. Seems to me that these situations occur most often involving the glove hand. When they occur, often due to being out of position for a shot succeeding a previous one, the goaltender is left with no high probability save option and as a result the best option is to open the glove as widely as they can while getting the glove to cover some portion of the open net where they guess the puck might be going (split second choice of exact glove position being at the goaltender's sole discretion) and hope for the best. That's what I thought happened in that instance and it worked. When it works it usually looks quite impressive...but when it doesn't, well, it doesn't.
 
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Another recruiting coup for UMD: Tapping the Swiss National team has given the Bulldogs an outstanding addition in the person of Lara Stalder.

Confidential to Lara: Your hometown of Luzern is a beautiful place. But next time you ask us to climb Mt. Pilatus, we'll be taking the Cogwheel Railway, thank you very much.

Even better, if that's possible.

Also, I agree on your assessment of Villila, I thought she played a great game...was more than solid and chalked up 2 assists.
 
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Some situations in a goaltender's world are less than completely under control. Seems to me that these situations occur most often involving the glove hand. When they occur, often due to being out of position for a shot succeeding a previous one, the goaltender is left with no high probability save option and as a result the best option is to open the glove as widely as they can while getting the glove to cover some portion of the open net where they guess the puck might be going (split second choice of exact glove position being at the goaltender's sole discretion) and hope for the best. That's what I thought happened in that instance and it worked. When it works it usually looks quite impressive...but when it doesn't, well, it doesn't.
Very well put, and I agree with you. And yet you can't argue with success. On a scale of 1 to 10, that save was pretty much a 10.
 
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Final From Saturday, November 16th
Minnesota-Duluth 2
Ohio State 0


Bulldogs Hit Net; Buckeyes Hit Metal
Minnesota-Duluth worked hard on Saturday and created two excellent goals. Ohio State worked hard and created numerous chances, but never found the netting. The Buckeye effort yielded two memorable clanks of the pipe. The nearest miss hit the inside of the post and caromed off at an odd angle. With an inch or two on those pipe shots, we could have at least forced an overtime. But it wasn't meant to be.

No question, this edition of the Buckeyes has had some trouble scoring goals. Maybe a bit more hunger and tenacity in the slot is needed. Maybe we need to put up Shooter Tutor targets and take several hundred practice shots. Or, maybe we're just a little snakebit right now. Regardless of the exact explanation, the deciding factor Saturday was that the Visitors had the scoring touch and the Home Team did not. That's not to take anything away from UMD, who clearly earned the win.


Three Stars of the Game: Decidedly Unofficial and Just For Fun

Honorable Mention: The Ohio State Defense
Everyone performed admirably on D, starting with Goalie Lisa Steffes. BTW, it was great to see Steffes' infectious smile on big Schottenstein Center Video Board. I doubt I've ever seen a player more delighted to be introduced as a member of the starting line-up than Lisa -- each and every time out. In any event, Steffes did just fine, stopping 23 of 25 shots. The penalty killers had a perfect afternoon, stopping all four UMD attempts. Overall, holding a fine UMD team to two goals is a respectable result. Often that's good enough to win. Not so this time, unfortunately.


#3 Star: Ashleigh Brykaliuk, Minnesota-Duluth
Ashleigh opened the scoring with well timed tip that found the five hole. The scoring sequence started with a shot by Jamie Kenyon from the left wing. Bailey Wright corralled that rebound, then directed a crisp, perfect pass into the slot. Brykaliuk arrived in the slot right on time and steered the puck home.

#2 Star: Bailey Wright, Minnesota-Duluth
Not only did Wright help create the first goal, she finished the job herself on the second. The primary assist on the insurance goal went to Tea Villila. Both Bailey and Tea finished at +2 on the day, and were the only two players to reach that level.

#1 Star: Kayla Black, Minnesota-Duluth
OK, it's been said that the goalposts are a goalie's best friend. And yes, Black's BFF came up big a couple of times. But the other 36 saves belonged to Kayla. For the weekend, Black stopped 65 of 67 shots; that's a save percentage of 97%. Well done, Kayla; and congratulations on the shutout.


Next Up: Road Trip To Minnesota State
 
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