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WCHA Playoffs

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Heritage Arena in Duluth seats 1500 or so. If North Dakota brings a few fans along, maybe we can fill it up this weekend. I'd love a loud, boisterous crowd for a women's game!
 
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WHKY blogger said:
Both UW and UMD are suffering the effects of not being a primary tenant in their buildings. Both are being displaced due to high school events in their rink.

Both teams book the ice they are playing on for the WCHA first round prior to the beginning of the season and the league is well aware of that. In the case of Wisconsin I know for a fact they are playing where they are because of the other local rinks not allowing the UW to place a hold for the dates they need because its not a guarantee until the season plays out. Not sure what the other options are for UMD but the Heritage Center is not exactly a dive to play at.

I am not exactly sure what your complaint is.
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My point is that a high school program is bumping a D1 hockey team out of their own rink. Really give me a break! Every year since womens hockey in the wcha duluth and wisconsin have made the playoffs. It doesn't require rocket science to figure out to book the ice for these dates. Oh i forgot it's womens hockey so it's ok to bump them for high school hockey. At the heritage center by the time the duluth fans get their tickets and the band takes a bunch of tickets there aren't enought tickets left. So some fans get turned away at the door. Last year for the wisco games at the bird nest they also had to turn away fans ( some of them were family members). When you play in small venues it really increases the home advantage, a plus to the higher seed. Thats one of the perks of the higher seed that is well deserved. Maybe these teams should play all of their home games at these small rinks. Do the men ever get booted out of their rink for high school games?
 
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JosephPSchmoe said:
Why would you care where UMD or Wisconsin play their playoff games?
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I care be cause i'm sick and tired of seeing womens hockey not getting the respect it deserves. This is a D1 sport and should be treated that way. This would never be thought of to do to a mens team. Now i rember why i haven't been on here for a while, it's not worth the frustation.
 
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dhmn said:
They could have the DECC on Friday but would have been a tight fit on Saturday with the boys hockey semi-finals there on Saturday also.
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player x said:
Oh i forgot it's womens hockey so it's ok to bump them for high school hockey.
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It's sad that they are bumping them for semis. They have all the next week to get through two rounds of the boys' tourney. If the Bulldogs want to play in Heritage, fine. But if they want to play on their home ice Saturday, they should have that option.
 
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player x said:
My point is that a high school program is bumping a D1 hockey team out of their own rink. Really give me a break! Every year since womens hockey in the wcha duluth and wisconsin have made the playoffs. It doesn't require rocket science to figure out to book the ice for these dates. Oh i forgot it's womens hockey so it's ok to bump them for high school hockey. At the heritage center by the time the duluth fans get their tickets and the band takes a bunch of tickets there aren't enought tickets left. So some fans get turned away at the door. Last year for the wisco games at the bird nest they also had to turn away fans ( some of them were family members). When you play in small venues it really increases the home advantage, a plus to the higher seed. Thats one of the perks of the higher seed that is well deserved. Maybe these teams should play all of their home games at these small rinks. Do the men ever get booted out of their rink for high school games?
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I cant speak for UMD but at Wisconsin yes they do. They have had to move quite a few times for the WIAA Girls Basketball Tournament. The City, County, State, and UW feel that the revenues they bring in from hosting the State Championships at the Kohl Center greatly outweigh the revenue from a playoff hockey series.

The Order of scheduling for the Kohl Center is

1. Men's Basketball
2. Women's Basketball
3. Concerts and Special Events
4. WIAA Tournaments
5. Men's Hockey
6. UW Campus and Community Events (ie: Speeches, Dali Lama visits, etc)
7. Women's Hockey

You can even check with the UW, they will tell you the same thing. The Kohl Center was built first for Basketball, second for Special Events and then for Hockey. A Hockey Rink was not even originally part of the building of the Kohl Center until ground was already broken and a plan to remodel the Coliseum didn't move forward.

The UW Women's team does not even have their own locker room in the Kohl Center, they occupy a visitors Locker Room space and a smaller room for the coaches.

Those of us that have been following the girls from the beginning understand the process and know that its not fair but there is nothing we can do to change a process that is all money driven.

Heck the event they are being displaced for this weekend brings in more revenue over three days then 2 Home Badger football games.

The silver lining in all this lies with our new rink that will hopefully get its funding string together so that construction can begin as scheduled.
 
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player x said:
I care be cause i'm sick and tired of seeing womens hockey not getting the respect it deserves. This is a D1 sport and should be treated that way. This would never be thought of to do to a mens team. Now i rember why i haven't been on here for a while, it's not worth the frustation.
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Actually its a National Collegiate sport. Division 1 in Women's Hockey does not exist.

Teams play for the National Collegiate Championship and the Division III Championship.
 
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WHKY blogger said:
I cant speak for UMD but at Wisconsin yes they do. They have had to move quite a few times for the WIAA Girls Basketball Tournament. The City, County, State, and UW feel that the revenues they bring in from hosting the State Championships at the Kohl Center greatly outweigh the revenue from a playoff hockey series.

The Order of scheduling for the Kohl Center is

1. Men's Basketball
2. Women's Basketball
3. Concerts and Special Events
4. WIAA Tournaments
5. Men's Hockey
6. UW Campus and Community Events (ie: Speeches, Dali Lama visits, etc)
7. Women's Hockey

You can even check with the UW, they will tell you the same thing. The Kohl Center was built first for Basketball, second for Special Events and then for Hockey. A Hockey Rink was not even originally part of the building of the Kohl Center until ground was already broken and a plan to remodel the Coliseum didn't move forward.

The UW Women's team does not even have their own locker room in the Kohl Center, they occupy a visitors Locker Room space and a smaller room for the coaches.

Those of us that have been following the girls from the beginning understand the process and know that its not fair but there is nothing we can do to change a process that is all money driven.

Heck the event they are being displaced for this weekend brings in more revenue over three days then 2 Home Badger football games.

The silver lining in all this lies with our new rink that will hopefully get its funding string together so that construction can begin as scheduled.
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I realize that money drives the economy, but planning goes a long way. Just push these other events back a weekend. Doesn't seem like it would be the end of the world. Just my 2 cents.
 
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player x said:
I care be cause i'm sick and tired of seeing womens hockey not getting the respect it deserves. This is a D1 sport and should be treated that way. This would never be thought of to do to a mens team. Now i rember why i haven't been on here for a while, it's not worth the frustation.
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Again, playing an afternoon game Friday at the DECC would've meant in all likelihood that the Finnish players returning from Vancouver that day would've missed the game. If the alternative is playing an evening game at Heritage Arena to give those players time to get back to Duluth and suit up for the game, I'm okay with that. Is it ideal? Of course not. But they weren't going to fill the DECC anyway, even for a playoff game. I'm looking forward to a full house at Heritage just to see what it's like.

I also secretly want to see Brian Hidalski get his butt handed to him for remarks he made in this video:

http://www.fightingsioux.com//ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=13500&ATCLID=204894824
 
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JosephPSchmoe said:
Again, playing an afternoon game Friday at the DECC would've meant in all likelihood that the Finnish players returning from Vancouver that day would've missed the game. If the alternative is playing an evening game at Heritage Arena to give those players time to get back to Duluth and suit up for the game, I'm okay with that. Is it ideal? Of course not. But they weren't going to fill the DECC anyway, even for a playoff game. I'm looking forward to a full house at Heritage just to see what it's like.

I also secretly want to see Brian Hidalski get his butt handed to him for remarks he made in this video:

http://www.fightingsioux.com//ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=13500&ATCLID=204894824
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I am secretly rooting for North Dakota and Hildaski :cool: !!
 
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He just kind of smirked his way through the interview with a lot of sarcasm about having to come to Duluth to play us.

"Duluth, with their program, the success they've had, some of the animosity and shenanigans that go on between the programs, we'll be ready to go." The interviewer asked him where that comes from. "It probably starts with the coaching staffs to be honest with you. You know, some of the things they do when you go up there is a little bit on edge. Saw it a lot in the minors, don't see it a lot at the collegiate level and I don't have a lot of time for that stuff. I think it's kind of silly."

I have no idea what he's talking about, but there clearly isn't a lot of love lost between the two programs for some reason. Wouldn't have anything to do with the Sioux being an especially chippy team when they play in Duluth, I'm sure. And it has to all be Shannon Miller's fault. There's no other logical explanation. Two and out, Brian. Two and out.
 
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JosephPSchmoe said:
"Duluth, with their program, the success they've had, some of the animosity and shenanigans that go on between the programs, we'll be ready to go." The interviewer asked him where that comes from. "It probably starts with the coaching staffs to be honest with you. You know, some of the things they do when you go up there is a little bit on edge. Saw it a lot in the minors, don't see it a lot at the collegiate level and I don't have a lot of time for that stuff. I think it's kind of silly."
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Spot on Mr. Idalski.
 
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JosephPSchmoe said:
He just kind of smirked his way through the interview with a lot of sarcasm about having to come to Duluth to play us.

"Duluth, with their program, the success they've had, some of the animosity and shenanigans that go on between the programs, we'll be ready to go." The interviewer asked him where that comes from. "It probably starts with the coaching staffs to be honest with you. You know, some of the things they do when you go up there is a little bit on edge. Saw it a lot in the minors, don't see it a lot at the collegiate level and I don't have a lot of time for that stuff. I think it's kind of silly."

I have no idea what he's talking about, but there clearly isn't a lot of love lost between the two programs for some reason. Wouldn't have anything to do with the Sioux being an especially chippy team when they play in Duluth, I'm sure. And it has to all be Shannon Miller's fault. There's no other logical explanation. Two and out, Brian. Two and out.
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brookyone said:
Spot on Mr. Idalski.
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I couldn't get the video to play on my desktop with XP but I tried it today on the laptop with Windows7 and it works so I was finally able to watch Coach Idalski's internet press briefing.

Spot on Mr. Idalski.

This guy can coach, he can recruit and he isn't afraid to say what he thinks. North Dakota is definitely on the rise.
 
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ManBehindTheCurtain said:
Spot on Mr. Idalski.

This guy can coach, he can recruit and he isn't afraid to say what he thinks. North Dakota is definitely on the rise.
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Well maybe next year. A last place finish in 2010 with the Olympic's removing some of the top talent from the WCHA cannot be what he evisioned at the start of the season. Should have challenged for a top 4 finish.
The Lam's will make the next 3 year's a little easier.
 
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