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USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

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The GOP's anthem:

I was up above it
I was up above it
Now I'm down in it

Shut up!

So what, what does it matter now?
I was swimming in the haze now I crawl on the ground
And everything I never liked about him
Is kind of seeping into me

I try to laugh about it now
But isn't it funny how everything works out
I guess the joke's on me

I was up above it
I was up above it
Now I'm down in it

I used to be so big and strong
I used to know my right from wrong
I used to never be afraid
I used to be somebody

I used to have something inside
Now just this hole it's open wide
I used to want it all
I used to be somebody
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Some musical 'what ifs'. Trying to stay away from, "What if Jim Morrison didn't die" since there's far too many examples and I find it less interesting, but circumstances behind what led to deaths might work. For instance:

-What if Brian Jones had some self control?
-What if Kurt Cobain found an ounce of self-esteem?
-What if John never meets Yoko?
-What if the Beatles don't replace Pete Best and Stuart Sutcliffe? Probably very little difference from John and Paul but does George not emerge from under their shadow until they breakup?
-What if Faith Hill got the job as a backup singer for Reba's band?
-What if Dennis Wilson never met Charles Manson? Sharon Tate possibly never dies among other things.
-What if Dave Mustaine was never kicked out of Metallica?
-What if Roger Waters learned to play with others?
-What if Bob Marley never agreed to the charity concert that wrongly tied him to one of the warring factions running for election in Jamaica?
-What if The Kinks weren't banned in the US from 1965-1969?
-What if Elvis' twin didn't die at birth?
-What if Bon Scott never introduces the rest of AC/DC to Brian Johnson before his death?
-What if CSY never allowed in N?
-What if Janet Jackson never let her nip slip?
-What if Chris Cornell joined Faith No More instead of Mike Patton?
 
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Some musical 'what ifs'. Trying to stay away from, "What if Jim Morrison didn't die" since there's far too many examples and I find it less interesting, but circumstances behind what led to deaths might work. For instance:

-What if Brian Jones had some self control?
-What if Kurt Cobain found an ounce of self-esteem?
-What if John never meets Yoko?
-What if the Beatles don't replace Pete Best and Stuart Sutcliffe? Probably very little difference from John and Paul but does George not emerge from under their shadow until they breakup?
-What if Faith Hill got the job as a backup singer for Reba's band?
-What if Dennis Wilson never met Charles Manson? Sharon Tate possibly never dies among other things.
-What if Dave Mustaine was never kicked out of Metallica?
-What if Roger Waters learned to play with others?
-What if Bob Marley never agreed to the charity concert that wrongly tied him to one of the warring factions running for election in Jamaica?
-What if The Kinks weren't banned in the US from 1965-1969?
-What if Elvis' twin didn't die at birth?
-What if Bon Scott never introduces the rest of AC/DC to Brian Johnson before his death?
-What if CSY never allowed in N?
-What if Janet Jackson never let her nip slip?
-What if Chris Cornell joined Faith No More instead of Mike Patton?
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What if Slash had joined Poison or Megadeth? (yes, both almost happened)
 
And, what if:

Robert Johnson
Bix Beiderbecke
Fats Waller
Hank Williams Sr
Clifford Brown
Charlie Parker
Buddy Holly
Eddie Cochran
Sam Cooke
Eric Dolphy
Billie Holiday
Otis Redding
Marvin Gaye
John Coltrane
Jimi Hendrix
Lee Morgan
Ian Curtis
Tupac
Biggie
ODB

had all lived.
 
I'm also listening to "Hear You Me" by Jimmy Eat World and I'm sobbing because even though my mom passed in September 2010, the holidays just suck without her.
 
Mariah Carey points a claw at another innocent victim. "All I want for Christmas is.... YOU." The sound of screaming is replaced by the sound of bones crunching. We all rest easy tonight, knowing the Mariah has been fed. For now.
 
39 years old, and the last couple years, I've discovered that many of the Christmas songs I mindlessly sung at 8 years old are so full of sh-t porta-potties couldn't even handle it.
 
So, I've always been a closet Swiftie and I am excited for Taylor Swift re-recording her first six albums. I had thought of buying the Red and 1989 albums, but I'll wait until the re-releases drop.
 
I finally have some extra scratch to get records and have been trying to pick up vinyl for albums I bought on cd back in the day.

Bob Mould’s “Workbook” and “Black Sheets of Rain” our of print.

Living Colour’s “Vivid” our of print.

Sweep The Leg Johnny, everything out of print.


Seam, Arcwelder, Brainiac, all out of print.

man, Touch and Go really dropped the ball on maintaining their physical catalog...ugh

Soul Asylum’s “And The Horse They Rose In On”, “Hang Time”, “Grace Dancers Union”, “While You Were Out” all our of print.

Rush “Counterparts” our of print (for now anyway)

Voivod? Forget it. Our of print for “Nothingface” and “Angel Rat”

Why did I ever switch to cds in the first Gd place!!!!????
 
Always the used market. Vinyl has become pretty huge right now. Discogs is a good source for older stuff if you don't have the time or inclination to prowl the used bins.

Also many of the new reissues don't sound as good as the originals. Sometimes its the remaster, suffering from the same "loudness wars" that have plagued CDs, and other times it's ****ty cuttings done by ****ty production facilities. A lot of the art of cutting vinyl has been lost as those older companies have gone out of business, and the equipment consigned to the dustbin.

But just to pizz you off, I have both Workbook and Black Sheets of Rain, both amazing records, from their original pressings. Although both Workbook and Black Sheets are pretty pricey on the used market. Coming at the tail end of the 80's/early 90's when CDs were taking over, there were a lot fewer copies pressed, therefore rather more rare in the used market. A real nice pressing of the first Black Crowes record will go for over $100 these days. Also Vivid and all the Soul Asylums except Grave Dancers Union.

Dug out my old copy of The Psychedelic Furs' Forever Now yesterday and played it for the first time in years, on my system which has been substantially upgraded over the past few years. Sounded incredible. And for the first time, I could actually make out what Flo and Eddie were singing in the background counter-melody for Yes I Do.
 
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Always the used market. Vinyl has become pretty huge right now. Discogs is a good source for older stuff if you don't have the time or inclination to prowl the used bins. Also many of the new reissues don't sound as good as the originals. Sometimes its the remaster, suffering from the same "loudness wars" that have plagued CDs, and other times it's ****ty cuttings done by ****ty production facilities. A lot of the art of cutting vinyl has been lost as those older companies have gone out of business, and the equipment consigned to the dustbin.

But just to pizz you off, I have both Workbook and Black Sheets of Rain, both amazing records, from their original pressings. Also Vivid and all the Soul Asylums except Grave Dancers Union.

Dug out my old copy of The Psychedelic Furs' Forever Now yesterday and played it for the first time in years, on my system which has been substantially upgraded over the past few years. Sounded incredible. And for the first time, I could actually make out what Flo and Eddie were singing in the background counter-melody for Yes I Do.
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Nice!!! Love those Mould albums plus Vivid and Soul Asylum.

i agree with you on some of the reissues. I think some of them may be using digital files (meaning the files to press cds) to send to vinyl pressing plants to create stampers and test pressings. There’s a huge difference in sound imo if a band or label doesn’t get a separate master for vinyl.


I’ve just started browsing Discogs. That’s a pretty amazing planet of it’s own. I’m going to buy the Living Colour LP and the Mould albums for sure now that I see them available.
 
Got all of the Husker albums too, which are also pretty pricey on the used market.

I'm kinda torn on the digital files bit. Yes, if they just take the tracks as they've been mastered for CD, and use them to cut a vinyl record from, they're gonna sound like crap. But I've bought a couple remasters lately, Simple Minds' New Gold Dream, and John Martyn's Solid Air, that were half-speed mastered at Abbey Road studios using digital files made from the original analog tapes, that are two of the best sounding records in my collection. Half-speed mastering using digital files allows the mastering engineer to do things with software, such as de-essing, that he wouldn't be able to do in the analog domain at half-speed, simply because the frequency would be too low at that speed for his equipment to recognize. As long as the mastering engineer knows what he's doing.

Then again, the same guy did the half-speed remasters of the Rolling Stones' catalog that people have been less than impressed with. I think the reason there is that he got the digital files from the Stones' organization instead of being allowed to create them himself, and those files may not have been as good as he might have done himself. Again, depends on who's doing it.

Also just got Joan Armatrading's debut album from a relatively new label called Intervention Records that was remastered completely analog from the original analog masters that is maybe the best sounding album in my collection. Amazingly good, both in the remastering and in the quality of the cutting/pressing. Dead silent record. They're coming out with The Church's Starfish in a couple months that I already have on preorder. Very impressed with what they're doing, their approach to how they want the records to sound, and their commitment to having top quality pressing and packaging.
 
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