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USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

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We'll skip the extended dance/funk workout, and skip right to this brilliant solo by Andy. So simple, so sparse, but just absolutely perfect. Wonderful use of harmonics.

https://youtu.be/ZrxyOHUuQBw?t=254

Here's the opposite: pure distortion and energy, and one of the greatest punk songs of all time, and one of the most intelligent songs about commodified emotion and the death of human feeling in a consumerist society like England (or America). (On the same album, Natural's Not In It is about the exploitation of sex and the loss of intimacy and sincere sexuality under Capitalism.)

You can follow along at home. It took me forever to parse Andy's spoken word underneath Jon's lyrics when I was a kid (no liner notes) but with Genius it's at your fingertips.
 
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The Cult have put out some decent new records the past decade or so, but it's hard not to go back to this.

Yeah, but that version had none of the danger, energy, or raw sensuality of the original recording.

it's tough growing old. And playing the same song 100,000 times and not getting tired of it.
 
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Listened to that yesterday. Better equipment always helps.

Last time I played that on the computer, both voices were just a garbled jumble. Since then, I've made new speaker cables for the computer system from an old pair I was no longer using, and bought a new 3.5 to RCA cable to connect into my old home theater receiver I use for the computer audio. Now instead on one jumbled mess, it's two distinct voices speaking at the same time. You still gotta listen hard to pick it out, but it's much better resolved now.
 
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I love the Ramones' version of What A Wonderful World. I was singing along to it in my car earlier today and having a whole lot of fun.

Their cover songs were always awesome. I am biased, as I've loved them since my formative years. Luckily, I did get to see them live (although it was at a music fest, so shortened set of sorts; they *were* the headliners...)
 
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Their cover songs were always awesome. I am biased, as I've loved them since my formative years. Luckily, I did get to see them live (although it was at a music fest, so shortened set of sorts; they *were* the headliners...)

They played hundreds of covers in concert; many never made albums. Little by little concert recordings are finding their way to the internet. They are amazing. The early CBGBs shows are hilarious, when they'd do stuff like knock out their entire 20 song set in 25 minutes.

Their initial 5-song (2 encore) set was played in 4 minutes. The albums versions are more than 3 times longer, so play those recordings and imagine them sped up 300%.

"No one is gonna like you. You can come back tomorrow." - Hilly Kristal
 
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They played hundreds of covers in concert that never made albums. Little by little concert recordings are finding their way to the internet. They are amazing. The early CBGBs shows are hilarious, when they'd do stuff like knock out their entire 20 song set in 25 minutes.

Their initial set was played in 4 minutes. The albums versions are more than 3 times longer, so play those recordings and imagine them sped up 300%.
The legend went that their first "real" gig lasted 45 minutes. The owner of the establishment was angry and said "Hey, the contract says 60 minutes!" Joey said, "We played 60 minutes...but it only took us 45 minutes to do it."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwsVWZ-c8Eo

Love this clip of them arguing a bit between songs. Bad audio, but hey, given the time and place....
 
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The legend went that their first "real" gig lasted 45 minutes. The owner of the establishment was angry and said "Hey, the contract says 60 minutes!" Joey said, "We played 60 minutes...but it only took us 45 minutes to do it."

"We play music for people without a lot of time." God these guys were pure rock and roll. I love the comment on the 1974 clip. "This is just 5 years after Woodstock." Srsly, imagine the glam going on all around them when they were hatching this. The #1 album on New Years Day 1974 was The F-cking Carpenters.

The British birth of punk was angrily not having a thing to lose. The American birth of punk was joyfully not having a f-ck to give.
 
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"We play music for people without a lot of time." God these guys were pure rock and roll. I love the comment on the 1974 clip -- this is just 5 years after Woodstock.

I tried counting the strums/minute Johnny would do in a live set. I gave up.
The Musikladen show is a must for any Ramones fan. It really shows how quickly they tightened up their abilities, and their sets. This is just a clip, I recommend dialing up the whole show. I have the DVD and CD of this one. It's awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A96yPYcls_8
 
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I tried counting the strums/minute Johnny would do in a live set. I gave up.
The Musikladen show is a must for any Ramones fan. It really shows how quickly they tightened up their abilities, and their sets. This is just a clip, I recommend dialing up the whole show. I have the DVD and CD of this one. It's awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A96yPYcls_8

There's nothing extra in that performance. It's pared down to the absolute bare minimum. Those guys were honest.
 
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There's nothing extra in that performance. It's pared down to the absolute bare minimum. Those guys were honest.

It's a reason I love AC/DC. No ballads, just rock. Yeah, that's it. Straightfoward.

Yes, the Ramones definitely subscribed to the thought of:
Here's a chord.
Here's a second chord.
Here's a third chord.
Now, start a band.
 
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My god she was sex-y. She has what Raymond Chandler refers to as "the ancient dare." That direct eye contact that is pure honesty and challenge. Women who naturally and unaffectedly do this are what makes life worth the hassle.

And that guitar is so dirty. This is like southern rock for adults and mental non-deficients.

For thirty years I thought the line in Rip Her to Shreds was "she's so tall." :) The guitar solo on that second clip could be Tom Verlaine. It's fantastic.

From the same site, her isolated track.
 
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Since we've lost Andy, here's a reminder that there are still jewels among us.

<img src="https://concerty.com/cache/img/artist/7b2443e290f62b6507b4f0077706c10c.jpg" height=300>
 
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It's a reason I love AC/DC. No ballads, just rock. Yeah, that's it. Straightfoward.

Yes, the Ramones definitely subscribed to the thought of:
Here's a chord.
Here's a second chord.
Here's a third chord.
Now, start a band.

Joey once said that when the first got together they wanted to play Beach Boys covers and **** like that, but they couldn't because they lacked skill. They had to invent a simple style that they could play.
 
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The Ramones also loved 60s melodic music and HATED art rock. They wanted to sandblast all the glam off rock. It was a really different motivation than say The Clash.

Joey Ramone's metaphysical arch-enemy is Greg Lake.
 
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The Ramones also loved 60s melodic music and HATED art rock. They wanted to sandblast all the glam off rock. It was a really different motivation than say The Clash.

Joey Ramone's metaphysical arch-enemy is Greg Lake.

Or Steve Walsh.
 
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Or Steve Walsh.

I'd have said Glenn Frey, but he's never been called rock and roll anyway.

Among people with competence the anti-Ramone is probable Bowie, so this is hilarious:

<img src="https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9f/4e/3b/9f4e3b5553664cf6a587ec5a65c90c31.jpg" height=300>

Never knew Bowie to kick a cute guy out of bed.

I have to see Rock and Roll High School again, because Wikipedia claims this is on the soundtrack.
 
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