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USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

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BassAle said:
Pearl Jam was never really grunge
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Sure they were.

There's a great documentary of Sub Pop where a music critic plays a riff, inverts one note, and says, "that's grunge." It was always a gimmick but I still liked it.

Even Flow is grunge having unprotected anal sex with hard rock.

Yellow Ledbetter would be grunge except grunge was never that good. Let's say it's grunge being taken to school by an old blues guitarist.

Jeremy sucked and was the Platonic ideal of grunge.

Black is grunge at its most interesting (and got incredibly overplayed for it).

Daughter could be any 60s band playing with untuned guitars.

Nothingman is a terrible Dylan song which I assume was written as a parody.

Soon Forget is a ripoff of The Who's Blue Red and Grey but it's OK because Vedder has said he adores that song (as do I).

So PJ is grunge, but they were talented enough that they were also many other things, which is how it is with good acts.
 
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Kepler said:
Sure they were.

There's a great documentary of Sub Pop where a music critic plays a riff, inverts one note , and says, "that's grunge." It was always a gimmick but I still liked it.

Even Flow is grunge having unprotected anal sex with hard rock.

Yellow Ledbetter would be grunge except grunge was never that good. Let's say it's grunge being taken to school by an old blues guitarist.

Jeremy sucked and was the Platonic ideal of grunge.

Black is grunge at its most interesting (and got incredibly overplayed for it).

Daughter could be any 60s band playing with untuned guitars.

Nothingman is a terrible Dylan song which I assume was written as a parody.

Soon Forget is a ripoff of The Who's Blue Red and Grey but it's OK because Vedder has said he adores that song (as do I).

So PJ is grunge, but they were talented enough that they were also many other things, which is how it is with good acts.
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Grunge was first used to describe Mudhoney, because of very slow tempo with dirty guitars. Eventually record companies cashed in on the hype and called every Seattle band grunge even if they didn’t have the signature sound developed in the late 80s Seattle underground scene. It became a meaningless marketing term that had nothing to do with the sound of the band, only the city they were based out of.
 
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solovsfett said:
God **** this is great! I’m so envious you got to see them in their prime!

They’re a Mount Rushmore type band.
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My favorite band of all time. I am very fortunate to have seen them, I believe four different lineups.

Gill, King, Allen, Burnham
Gill, King, Lee, Burnham
Gill, King, Lee, a drum machine (that was awkward for a Marxist band...)
Gill, Sterry, Allen*, Finnegan

* Allen actually showed up unannounced and played the gig in place of McNeice. Gill was the only one aware of the switch until they walked on stage. The 9:30 Club gave Allen a 1-minute ovation and he wept on stage. Allen is also brilliant and I hope to see Shriekback someday.
 
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Steely Dan playing Wolf Trap with Steve Winwood this July. I will definitely be going.
 
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Kepler said:
You would have. I saw them in 81, 83, 85, and 15. Every show was brilliant.
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Goddam, that is funky as all hell.

Never got to see them. I was working with a young kid about 15 years ago, we were on the road and he was playing Bloc Party, probably their first record. I said Christ, this is just Gang of Four.

Shriekback are still performing? Remember the first time I ever heard Lined Up, I was like, whoa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-R4XKuI7rA
 
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I did get to see Gang of Four at First Avenue in 2011 - wish I had seen them decades earlier, but at least I got to see them.

They were so hard to categorize which to me is a sign of how wicked they were. Funky New Wave? I dunno but they clearly inspired a ton of artists to follow because you hear them everywhere.
 
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BassAle said:
Grunge was first used to describe Mudhoney, because of very slow tempo with dirty guitars. Eventually record companies cashed in on the hype and called every Seattle band grunge even if they didn’t have the signature sound developed in the late 80s Seattle underground scene. It became a meaningless marketing term that had nothing to do with the sound of the band, only the city they were based out of.
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I made this exact argument in an undergrad term paper. :)
 
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The Cult have put out some decent new records the past decade or so, but it's hard not to go back to this.
 
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If this doesn't make you want to dance, f**k or both you might want to sit the next few out.
 
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