USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

[dxmnkd316]

That's incredible

 

[state of hockey]

I learned that Tracy Chapman’s voice was that of a woman and David Sedaris’ voice was that of a man within a few days of each other. What a ride that was.

 

[Kepler]

That's incredible

I will say that the album recording of her captures the intimacy and vulnerability of her live performances in that station and is a triumph of production. It's a great song and her rendition is beautiful and powerful. It just wore such a groove into my brain that I can't stand to be anywhere within range of her voice.

 

[walrus]

Band of gypsys today, forgot how great that album was

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Yeah even I have a problem with her use of jets.

Apparently vista jet not only flew out mechanics to Tokyo but also flew a whole second private jet there so poor little ecoterrorist can see her boyfriend

 

[Jimjamesak]

Ok, here’s a question that I’ve had recently: What “officially” defines a country song?

Because I was kinda surprised to learn Noah Kahan’s “Dial Drunk” has never been on the country charts despite largely sounding like a country song.

(Although it apparently topped the “Alternative”
charts)

 

[Kepler]

Ok, here’s a question that I’ve had recently: What “officially” defines a country song?

Chicken wahr.

In March, Billboard chose to pull Lil Nas X’s song from its country charts — where it had reached No. 19, and would have inevitably reached No. 1 — ostensibly for failing to embrace “enough elements of today’s country music,” while keeping it on the R&B/Hip Hop charts. More recently, many white country fans have taken to Twitter to voice their anger over Lil Nas X’s recent sponsorship deal with Wrangler jeans, a brand that has been connected with cowboy and rodeo culture since the 1940s.

Clearly, for the self-deputized gatekeepers of the country genre, Lil Nas X and his song don’t belong.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Ok, here’s a question that I’ve had recently: What “officially” defines a country song?

Because I was kinda surprised to learn Noah Kahan’s “Dial Drunk” has never been on the country charts despite largely sounding like a country song.

(Although it apparently topped the “Alternative”
charts)

While I don't disagree, I'd say it's probably because banjo-laced folk is outside of the Nashville mainstream at the moment, and is more the realm of coffee-sipping hipsters. Thus, the "alternative" designation.

 

[state of hockey]

Beck has quite a few tunes that could easily be considered country, but never are. I assumed in his case a look at his overall catalog explains it. But that doesn’t explain how rap artists here and there pull it off.

 

[Jimjamesak]

While I don't disagree, I'd say it's probably because banjo-laced folk is outside of the Nashville mainstream at the moment, and is more the realm of coffee-sipping hipsters. Thus, the "alternative" designation.

I would honestly not be surprised if the reasoning was “he’s from Vermont”. Like Kepler posted the country industry is pretty backwards.

The banjo part is ironic since that sound was what differentiated the “country radio” version of early Taylor Swift songs from her “pop version” that had more guitar.

 

[Kepler]

I would honestly not be surprised if the reasoning was “he’s from Vermont”. Like Kepler posted the country industry is pretty backwards.

The banjo part is ironic since that sound was what differentiated the “country radio” version of early Taylor Swift songs from her “pop version” that had more guitar.

Black banjo music stolen by whites = country.

Black piano music stolen by whites = jazz.

Black guitar music stolen by whites = blues.

 

[burd]

Black banjo music stolen by whites = country.

Black piano music stolen by whites = jazz.

Black guitar music stolen by whites = blues.

Black blues music ?????? by whites = rock and roll

 

[Kepler]

Black blues music ?????? by whites = rock and roll

Rock and roll is black guitar music stolen by whites, part 2.

 

[Kepler]

Cowboy music ("Western") might be white, but I strongly suspect it's stolen from Messicans.

 

[Kepler]

Truth.

 

[Slap Shot]

Eric Burdon and War - Spirit/Love Is All Around/Mystery Train (Live, 1971)

Been down a Burdon rabbit hole and this might be my favorite one so far today.

 

[state of hockey]

Cowboy music ("Western") might be white, but I strongly suspect it's stolen from Messicans.

There’s a segment of rock that does this too, specifically “Desert Rock”. Queens of the Stone Age being the big one that comes to my mind at the moment. Big Mexican and Spanish influence.

 

[Kepler]

There’s a segment of rock that does this too, specifically “Desert Rock”. Queens of the Stone Age being the big one that comes to my mind at the moment. Big Mexican and Spanish influence.

There is a tradition of Czech-Mexican music (Norteno).

Emperor Maximilian I brought European music to Mexico during his reign (beginning 1863) in the Second Mexican Empire. By 1864, he had accumulated marching bands and musicians to entertain him. In 1867, the Mexican Republic executed Maximilian, thereby ending the Austrian empire in Mexico. Many of Maximilian's former soldiers and fellow countrymen fled north and dispersed into what is now the southwestern United States. Norteno music developed from a blending of Mexican and Spanish oral and musical traditions, military brass band instrumentation, and musical styles such as polka and waltz.

European immigrants from Germany, Poland, and Czechoslovakia to northern Mexico and the southwestern United States also brought dance traditions such as the varsovienne. The focus on the accordion in the music of their home countries was integrated into Mexican music, and became an essential instrument. It was called norteno ("northern") because it was most popular in the northern regions of Mexico.

 

[dxmnkd316]

I would honestly not be surprised if the reasoning was “he’s from Vermont”. Like Kepler posted the country industry is pretty backwards.

The banjo part is ironic since that sound was what differentiated the “country radio” version of early Taylor Swift songs from her “pop version” that had more guitar.

Will be really interesting when Beyoncé's country album comes out.

also, for what constitutes country vs pop, I think you can just look at the Taylor swift catalog and realize the issue. It's not easy to point to one album as the official abrupt end of her country phase. Obviously Taylor Swift is is country. Obviously 1989 is not. What happens in between is murky.

 

[burd]

The examples are probably endless, since all of art is derivative, and the chain of attribution is probably also endless.

And yeah, I realize that statement did not add much, if anything, to the conversation.