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Unrest in Egypt

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Mubarak is speaking now.

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Says the protesters threatened the safety of the rest of Egypt, the police were trying to protect people.
"There is a fine line between freedom and chaos."
These demonstrations wouldn't have happened without freedoms.
The problems facing us cannot be solved with chaos.
Says protesters are looters and arsonists.
Says he is on the side of the poor people and thinks the economy is too important to be left to economists.
Says goals cannot be achieved through violence. Calls for dialogue.
Says he has ordered government to step down and he will name a new government tomorrow.



I'm not sure blaming the protesters was very bright.
He asked the govt to step down? Uhh..he is the government.
 
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Priceless said:
Mubarak is speaking now.

Says the protesters threatened the safety of the rest of Egypt, the police were trying to protect people.
"There is a fine line between freedom and chaos."
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I want to make fun of the person translating the speech on the fly, but, he's doing a da** good job trying to keep up with the live telecast.
 
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And the protesters waited for about 30 seconds into his speech to start chanting for his own resignation. Does he really think this is going to placate the people? Does he imagine all these people who hate him are going to say, "Everything's better now...guess we'll go home and let him appoint a new government."

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
 
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I wonder how much Israel is sweating all of this unrest?
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They probably have all their assets out in the field and wishing that the Euros, USA, and Russia would have a few more out there soon as well. They got Egypt on side, and Jordan on the other side. And there's a few other countries there that are tinderboxes as well.
 
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The most intriguing part of Mubarak's speech was his warning about obeying the law tomorrow. Will be interesting to see if A) people do (can't imagine that will happen) and B) what the military does. Will the army stay loyal to Mubarak and shoot the protesters, or side with the protesters who are welcoming them as heroes.
 
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Obama is speaking live.
http://on.cnn.com/gwaM8x

Edit: Obama spoke with Mubarak after his speech (reportedly the conversation lasted 30 minutes).
He calls for the government to restore the Internet.
Obama avoided choosing sides, but he leaned towards Mubarak.
Talking head on MSNBC says he leaned away from Mubarak...whichever.
 
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I have a buddy who is Egyptian and came over here to go to college. He was one of my other friends best man in his wedding. A few months later he got a job (consultant stuff) and he took it because he was to be placed back in Cairo. Haven't heard anything from him yet, neither has my friend.
 
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5mn_Major said:
IMO BBC, CNN...the others have either a narrow or limited interface between the news and the public.
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I'd say BBC is still head and shoulders above everyone (we'll see what happens after they gut the World Service later this year). DW is also good but seems to be resource-poor. RT, CNN and AJ come across as insular, reflecting their region's narratives -- not so much biased (well, RT is just Putin's mouthpiece) but obsessed with repeating storylines and framing that their home audience is comfortable with.

It's always interesting to see how all the major US sources basically copy one another, and then international sources come at stories from totally different angles. Superpowers are arrogant even when they aren't trying to be.
 
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Jon said:
I wonder what Star Wars race Glenn Beck will compare the people of Egypt to? Jawas?

Just trying to stay positive.
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The question is, who will be the first wingnut to compare the Tea Party to the Egyptian protesters and Obama to Mubarak. I mean, if it hasn't already happened yet. :rolleyes:
 
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Kepler said:
I'd say BBC is still head and shoulders above everyone (we'll see what happens after they gut the World Service later this year). DW is also good but seems to be resource-poor. RT, CNN and AJ come across as insular, reflecting their region's narratives -- not so much biased (well, RT is just Putin's mouthpiece) but obsessed with repeating storylines and framing that their home audience is comfortable with.

It's always interesting to see how all the major US sources basically copy one another, and then international sources come at stories from totally different angles. Superpowers are arrogant even when they aren't trying to be.
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Internationally CNN is a much bigger deal than here in the US. I'd agree that the BBC is way ahead of everyone else.
 
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Kepler said:
I'd say BBC is still head and shoulders above everyone (we'll see what happens after they gut the World Service later this year). DW is also good but seems to be resource-poor. RT, CNN and AJ come across as insular, reflecting their region's narratives -- not so much biased (well, RT is just Putin's mouthpiece) but obsessed with repeating storylines and framing that their home audience is comfortable with.

It's always interesting to see how all the major US sources basically copy one another, and then international sources come at stories from totally different angles. Superpowers are arrogant even when they aren't trying to be.
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Ya...BBC. CNN had the edge where I've been recently in eastern Europe. But BBC's radio coverage put them ahead even there. The only time I've seen DW overseas is in a hotel cable lineup where there is a concerted effort to bring in all the languages.

But I agree...I've really liked AJ's clean presentation. Even when it came to concerns of the Egyptian people regarding the US...it was measured but clear.
 
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Priceless said:
Internationally CNN is a much bigger deal than here in the US. I'd agree that the BBC is way ahead of everyone else.
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BBC, its bias not withstanding, has always prided themselves on having contacts all over the world... the other American networks were never at that level and has been worse than it was 20 years ago.
 
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Heard from my buddy tonight. He is actually in Kenya at the moment, so no big deal. His family who is in Cairo are all fine, and from the sounds of it the violence is being overstated by all media right now. Of course this is no surprise.
 
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bronconick said:
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Early leader in the provisional Egyptian elections.
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That is awesome...though I think Anubis will pull out the victory in the end :D

I was in Cairo just under a year ago...with the amount of poverty in Egypt this was bound to happen. While it may be different elsewhere, I don't think you will see a repeat of Iran in Egypt if they held true democratic elections. There is way too much melding of the different religions there. I mean the old part of the city is high percentage Greek Orthodox, Christianity is everywhere. (as is Judaism though not nearly as much)

BTW there is no way anyone is a worse driver than the average driver in Cairo. There is no lanes on their road and they honk their horn not because some jackoff cut them off or is driving slow, but just to say "hello I am changing lanes" and everyone tailgates at top speed with almost no signalling. There is different types of honking for different types of driving maneuvers...it is like Grand theft Auto only you dont get to kill any hookers and drive faster! :eek:
 
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Live coverage

AJ reports the police are using live ammo on protesters in Alexandria; 27 dead so far.
The military is in control of the streets of Cairo and things are calm. There are about 300-400 protesters but they are shaking hands and talking to the soldiers. There is 0 police presence in Cairo.

Edit: The protests in Cairo are growing. 1:00 prayers ended and there are now massive throngs on the street.

While Muslim Protestors prayed today, Christian Egyptians formed human chains 2 protect them.
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The death count is reportedly up to 95 now.

Holy ****. The crowd now heading for Tahrir Square is now estimated at 50,000

The party HQ in Luxor was torched.

Mubarak is shuffling chairs on the Titanic.

A new curfew goes into effect at 4:00PM local time (9AM ET). That may be the flash point when the military gets their orders to open fire. The crowd doesn't think they will do it, AJ correspondent seems to think they may be right. The protesters are not from a political faction or waving flags supporting one side or another - they are average Egyptians united in their cause. The soldiers know these people could be their neighbors, relatives, people they know. It will be very difficult to demonize them in the eyes of the soldiers.

The Internet is still down in Egypt.

Those with twitter can follow @jan25voices They are talking to people in Egypt by telephone and relaying it. The Internet can't be shut down...

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Protesters smiled and shook hands with troops patrolling the area. One soldier cradled a baby and posed for a picture.

Also on Saturday, Egyptian military tanks surrounded Cairo's Tahrir Square, where a crowd of hundreds of protesters continue growing. Demonstrators chanted, "Down with Mubarak" and "We are all Egyptians." The atmosphere was tense, but people gathered in the square were posing for pictures with tanks and shaking troops' hands.
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Listening in. The Anchor is annihilating the government spokesman. He is not doing a good job at holding his own.
 
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Sulieman has been sworn in as the new Vice President...wow this is pretty fantastic!

edit: former Air Marshall Ahmad Shafiq named the new Prime Minister.

double edit: Sulieman is VP I read wrong.
 
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