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University of North Dakota, version 2.0

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So, will Panzarella get robbed?

And go figure, another <strike>goon</strike> player who plays with an edge. ;)
 
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Isn't that what you want in a defensive defenseman? To go unnoticed?
 
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First Time said:
Watching him here, he's nothing special really.
You don't notice him until he takes penalties, but he does stand up for his teammates.
Wears the C for Waterloo also.
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I'll take that from a defensive dman any day of the week. :)
 
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I echo the previous 3 posts. They're like refs. The best ones go unnoticed.
 
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So he'll pick up Cepis three seconds after the opening faceoff and throw him into the crowd. Then Goon will write a 3500 word diatribe about how "See-p^ss" deserved it.
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
There's a difference between penalties hurting us (and when don't they?) and saying we lost because we took too many penalties. We didn't lose either of those games because we took too many penalties. In Milwaukee, we lost because we got behind 3-0 and despite playing better after that point, could never tie the game back up and played catch-up the entire game. In St. Louis, it was an extremely close game that Lamoureux single handidly kept us in. We really had no business even being in it, but it was tied 2-2 until 7:00 left in the third. BC scored on a powerplay to make it 4-3, but then we had a powerplay right after that and let BC score shorthanded for the GWG.

Using that logic you could argue that every game we ever lost was due to penalties.
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In 2005, Boston, we took penalty after penalty against BC but were able to successfully kill them off. It was clear in both 2006 and 2007 we had no answer for their power play. Thus, taking any penalties against the Eagles was too many, and when we did, they capitalized.

A team can have 10 power plays of it's own, against zero for the other team. However, if you're only leading 1-0, and with 5 minutes left you get hit with a major that results in a 2-1 loss, to claim that penalties played no role in the loss is silly.

In 2008 we got our azzes handed to us, penalties or no. But in 2006 and 2007, bad penalties at the wrong time of the game shifted momentum, inhibited any chance of coming back, and were a major cause of both losses, imho.
 
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SJHovey said:
In 2005, Boston, we took penalty after penalty against BC but were able to successfully kill them off. It was clear in both 2006 and 2007 we had no answer for their power play. Thus, taking any penalties against the Eagles was too many, and when we did, they capitalized.

A team can have 10 power plays of it's own, against zero for the other team. However, if you're only leading 1-0, and with 5 minutes left you get hit with a major that results in a 2-1 loss, to claim that penalties played no role in the loss is silly.

In 2008 we got our azzes handed to us, penalties or no. But in 2006 and 2007, bad penalties at the wrong time of the game shifted momentum, inhibited any chance of coming back, and were a major cause of both losses, imho.
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I have never said that penalties don't hurt. I said that we didn't lose any of those games because we took too many penalties. In your little scenario, if we have 10 powerplays and are up 1-0 and take a penalty, even a major, and lose that game, we didn't lose because we took too many penalties. We lost because we sucked on the powerplay/penalty kill. There is a HUGE difference there.

Again, I have never said that penalties don't hurt. I said that we didn't lose any of those games because we took too many penalties.
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
I have never said that penalties don't hurt. I said that we didn't lose any of those games because we took too many penalties. In your little scenario, if we have 10 powerplays and are up 1-0 and take a penalty, even a major, and lose that game, we didn't lose because we took too many penalties. We lost because we sucked on the powerplay/penalty kill. There is a HUGE difference there.

Again, I have never said that penalties don't hurt. I said that we didn't lose any of those games because we took too many penalties.
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We'll just have to agree to disagree. If you take one penalty, and the opposing team scores the only goal of the game on it, haven't you taken "too many" penalties? I think you have.

We may have only taken 7-8 penalties a game against BC in those semi-final games, but given BC's ability to capitalize on them, and the closeness of the games, I believe that was too many.
 
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Siouxfaninseattle said:
Speaking of penalties......from today's GF Herald


Sioux get defenseman with mean streak
Panzarella, a defenseman who committed to UND late last week, has made a name for himself in the United States Hockey League as a tough, character player.
By: Brad Elliott Schlossman, Grand Forks Herald
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USHL article also:

http://www.ushl.com/news/story.cfm?id=3739

Nine other current USHL players are also committed to play collegiate hockey at the University of North Dakota; Michael Parks (Cedar Rapids RoughRiders), Zane Gothberg (Fargo Force), Colten St. Clair (Fargo Force), Nick Mattson (Indiana Ice), Jordan Schmaltz (Sioux City Musketeers), Rocco Grimaldi (Team USA), Miles Koules (Team USA), J.T. Miller (Team USA), Stefan Matteau (Team USA).
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The University North Dakota Fighting Sioux are a member of the WCHA and have 13 USHL alumni on the roster for a team that is ranked #4 in the nation; Brent Blood (Indiana Ice/Des Moines Buccaneers), Brett Bruneteau (Des Moines Buccaneers/Indiana Ice/Omaha Lancers), Mike Cichy (Indiana Ice/Tri-City Storm), Derek Forbort (Team USA), Joe Gleason (Des Moines Buccaneers), Jason Gregoire (Lincoln Stars), Ryan Hill (Sioux Falls Stampede/Waterloo Black Hawks/Green Bay Gamblers), Danny Kristo (Omaha Lancers), Mario Lamoureux (Tri-City Storm), Derrick LaPoint (Green Bay Gamblers), Brad Malone (Sioux Falls Stampede), Jake Marto (Omaha Lancers), and Evan Trupp (Des Moines Buccaneers).
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In addition, Fighting Sioux head coach Dave Hakstol began his coaching career in the USHL, leading the Sioux City Musketeers for four seasons (1996-2000) and associate head coach Cary Eades was the head coach of the Dubuque Fighting Saints for two seasons (1991-93).
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That is quite a legacy and tribute to Gino Gasparini. His leaving UND for the USHL was extremely advantageous and beneficial to UND, and in the long run having him leave was in our best interests.

Can't think of a coach that has gone on to do more for college hockey than Gino Gasparini.
 
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SJHovey said:
We'll just have to agree to disagree. If you take one penalty, and the opposing team scores the only goal of the game on it, haven't you taken "too many" penalties? I think you have.

We may have only taken 7-8 penalties a game against BC in those semi-final games, but given BC's ability to capitalize on them, and the closeness of the games, I believe that was too many.
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When I think back to those games, if not "too many" penalties, then untimely and stupid penalties. Being able to kill them off but getting dead tired at the end of the games certainly has been a factor. The one where Finley was simply taller than the BC player was BS, though (maybe it wasn't Finley, I don't know, they've all run together for me now).
 
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SJHovey said:
We'll just have to agree to disagree. If you take one penalty, and the opposing team scores the only goal of the game on it, haven't you taken "too many" penalties? I think you have.

We may have only taken 7-8 penalties a game against BC in those semi-final games, but given BC's ability to capitalize on them, and the closeness of the games, I believe that was too many.
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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, but like I said before, using that logic, you can explain away every loss in the history of the program.
 
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brianvf said:
Expecting a sweep against CC this weekend...not sure on that one. I'd love to see it happen, but even without Schwartz (I heard he will still be out?) CC is a dangerous team. Two or three points is probably a bit more reasonable expectation.
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Yes. Jaden Schwartz will still be out this weekend. He is probably about a month away from returning. If CC can play like they did about a month ago then we will have a good series. If they play like they did against Anchorage the other weekend then you will sweep.
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
There's a difference between penalties hurting us (and when don't they?) and saying we lost because we took too many penalties. We didn't lose either of those games because we took too many penalties. In Milwaukee, we lost because we got behind 3-0 and despite playing better after that point, could never tie the game back up and played catch-up the entire game. In St. Louis, it was an extremely close game that Lamoureux single handidly kept us in. We really had no business even being in it, but it was tied 2-2 until 7:00 left in the third. BC scored on a powerplay to make it 4-3, but then we had a powerplay right after that and let BC score shorthanded for the GWG.

Using that logic you could argue that every game we ever lost was due to penalties.
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OK My memory may be bad but I remember the BC/UND game in St Louis differently. We were behind 3-2 when Oshie scored a short-handed goal to tie it 3-3. Then with 4:25 left Finley gets the phantom penalty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PoDKUHtWxI&feature=related . Make sure you listen to the announcers after this penalty call and see Hakstol's reaction. BC scores on the power play to go up 4-3. We pull the goalie and BC scores an empty netter to go up 5-3. With the goalie still pulled we score to make it 5-4. BC then scores another empty net goal to make the final 6-4. We may not have lost specifically because we took more penalties than BC did but I'm just saying...
 
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