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Union Hockey 2011-2012 Season Thread "We Can See Cleary Now"

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I'm saving my big trip for Tampa ;). Actually we are going to the FF in April, it would be nice if my team could join us there. I wouldn't expect more than a small contingent of U fans to travel to Colorado, I only know of two personally who are going and they were winners of a package at a silent auction.

I just hope we can make a better showing than the last trip to CC.
Was the last time the Icebreaker (2005, IIRC) when CC and AFA handed it to 'em? If so, this sure is a FAR stronger team, and the program has obviously come a long way since then.

The game yesterday against 'mack was the first time this season I've seen Union play. They were impressive, but I can't judge what to expect out of a team based on one game. What can we expect from them, especially on the big ice at CC? How's their team speed? Do they prefer an up-tempo style, or more physical?

This is pretty early, but since I don't feel like starting a game thread yet, I'll post a brief preview here: CC prefers an up-tempo game, but they do have good toughness as well, and can play a fairly physical game when necessary, though it isn't their preferred style. Captain Nick Dineen is nearly immoveable once he gets positioned in front of the net, and he is also great on faceoffs, as is most of the team. The powerplay has a lot of movement, and is very strong, but also they give up some SH goals due to their high risk/high reward play. The team defense has been an adventure at times this season, and has often hung the goaltenders out to dry, so both goaltenders have less than impressive numbers. They are both good, however, and I expect things to come together for each of them. But for now, let's just say it's a **** good thing CC can score so much!

I don't expect to see a lot of Union fans out here for the games, especially because of the time of year, but hopefully there will at least be some!
 
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Big win for U! More challenges coming up. Next few weeks will define the season IMHO. Gotta keep climbing the PWR.
 
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Union moves up 1 spot in the uscho.com poll. Hopefully we can pull out wins against CC and Denver to show we belong higher.
 
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The first weekend of January (6th-7th) can't get here soon enough. It's starting to feel like we've had an entire offseason between games at Messa. But I guess we can take solace in that 9 of the final 15 games are at Messa. As things stand now, here's how I would rate the home weekends left on the schedule in terms of intrigue:

1. Colgate 2/3 and Cornell 2/4
This weekend happens in the last month of the regular season has the potential to be very meaningful in determining the top of the league standings. Cornell and Colgate currently occupy the top two spots in the league and have a combined league record of 12-3-1. Both seem positioned to be near the top all year. In fact, if I could only go to two games of the nine left at Messa, it's definitely these two as of now. Easily.

2. Harvard 1/6 and Dartmouth 1/7
Harvard is looking like they could be better than many expected. They're 4-1-2 in their past 7 games, including a win against the current second place team (Colgate). Dartmouth hasn't really picked up a lot of steam yet, but were picked to finish fourth/fifth in the preseason polls. Dartmouth is a team I could see going on a surge as we get into the new year and I wouldn't take them lightly. A solid weekend to look forward to re-open the home schedule with.

3. RPI 1/14
Only one home game that weekend, but it's RPI, and Union-RPI always has the chance to be special even if RPI has been in the toilet. The place will be jammed to the rafters and the crowd may have the best atmosphere of any home game this year.

4. Princeton 2/17 and Qunnipiac 2/18
Union will be out for revenge after their disappointing weekend on the road against these two in early December. They settled for a 3-3 tie at Princeton after having a 3-0 lead and tied Q-Pac 2-2. I don't think history will repeat itself and would tentatively expect Union to have a 4 point weekend.

5. Clarkson 1/27 and St. Lawrence 1/28
Union is clearly better than these teams - they swept them at their rinks in November while holding them to one combined goal. I also saw these two teams in Lake Placid and neither are on the level of Union. But they do play the games for a reason, so you never say never. On the surface, this weekend clearly lags behind the other four home weekends.
 
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A pair of USCHO senior writers discuss Union -

Jim: That is very true, though I do feel that once we get past the new year, teams will begin to define themselves as national champion contenders. I think some of the early season success of teams like Merrimack, Lake Superior, Massachusetts-Lowell and Northern Michigan will be tested in the second half of the season. Of that quartet, only Merrimack has any true NCAA experience to draw from and, as you mentioned, the Warriors seem to be feeling the oats of what was a pretty easy early season schedule.

With that said, if all four of those teams were to drop out of the top 15 of the PairWise in the second half, what are the teams you would expect to move in? I can tell you the team that tops my list, having seen them play on Saturday: Union.

Todd: That was a pretty strong statement by the Dutchmen, going to Merrimack and spoiling the Warriors’ first-half finale. But, to me, Union has been tough to get a grip on this season. It will have a weekend where it scores one goal in two games, but it’ll go into Yost Arena and put up six goals on Michigan. The Dutchmen open the second half at Denver and at Colorado College, which could be huge games when it comes to the PairWise Rankings at the end of the season.

Jim: I think that you hit on Union’s weakness: offense. This is a team that plays incredible defense and I like its team speed. But scoring goals was the Dutchmen’s downfall in the NCAA tournament last season and that seems to still, at times, be an issue.


Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2011/12/20/tmq-no-straight-line-between-point-a-and-point-b
 
Re: Union Hockey 2011-2012 Season Thread "We Can See Cleary Now"

To me, that is a fair analysis, particularly with regard to Union's offensive inconsistency. I think the issue with offense has been with the 3rd and 4th lines which provided tremendous scoring depth last season but are still looking for the right fit this season. Part of that also has to do with injuries and illness which has made it difficult to keep lines together. Union's defense and work ethic are to me the factors that keep them in most of their games. This is still a fairly young team and I think the tough first half of the season is going to bear fruit come March and who knows, maybe even April.
 
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Coach on the radio show last night said that two areas he would like to see the team improve on in the second half are goal production and taking fewer penalties. So far as the OOC schedule for next year, he indicated that there will be a lot of road games again but hopes that the third season out will likely bring more teams in to Messa. He also mentioned that there will be two games against Penn State, which I believe are set for next season. I am not sure if those are home or away.
 
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I would hope that at least the Penn State games are at home. I don't believe their new rink will be finished until 2013-2014.
 
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Anyone hear anything about Ingoldsby lately? I haven't heard anything since it was reported awhile back that he would miss at least the first half of the season (just about done) and that he wasn't enrolled for the fall semester (over with).
 
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Anyone hear anything about Ingoldsby lately? I haven't heard anything since it was reported awhile back that he would miss at least the first half of the season (just about done) and that he wasn't enrolled for the fall semester (over with).
Strictly a guess because I have not heard anything, but I would be pleasantly surprised if he was back this season.
 
Re: Union Hockey 2011-2012 Season Thread "We Can See Cleary Now"

Anyone hear anything about Ingoldsby lately? I haven't heard anything since it was reported awhile back that he would miss at least the first half of the season (just about done) and that he wasn't enrolled for the fall semester (over with).

He has been cleared to return to class this semester but hasnt been cleared for any exercise at all. I dont think we will see him this season if he hasnt gotten cleared for light exercise yet. thats all ive heard
 
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How does everyone here feel about this upcoming weekend? CC's ice is 200x100, so good thing Union has had two games this year on the wide ice.

CC has gone 4-1 in December while Denver is 2-3.

CC has four NHL draftees, including 2011 first rounder Jaden Schwartz, who has 18 points in 13 contests. Schwartz will not be seen this weekend since he's with Canada in the World Juniors.

Denver has 9 NHL draftees, including Beau Bennett, a first rounder in 2010. But Bennett, who has 13 points in 10 games, had wrist surgery a couple weeks ago and will miss several more weeks. Jason Zucker, Denver's leader in goals and co-leader in points, won't be playing. He's with Team USA in the World Juniors. John Ryder, who the Denver Post dubbed Denver's "best stay-at-home defenseman and biggest hitter" is also likely out (leg). Adam Murray, a goalie who has appeared in 9 games for Denver, probably will be out as well (groin). But his replacement, Juho Olkinuora, actually has better numbers on the year.
 
Re: Union Hockey 2011-2012 Season Thread "We Can See Cleary Now"

if union plays like they did against merrimack they'll have a great shot at winning both nights. meaning if they show up for all 3 periods, continue with solid defense and goaltending, and keep putting pucks on net. they seem to be doing very well with away games, maybe since this is the farthest they've traveled this year they'll play the best they have this year. :D

if they don't play hard, i think its safe to assume denver and cc will take advantage.
 
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I think the Merrimack game was probably Union's best overall effort of the season to date, really the first time they played 3 solid periods against a quality opponent. Despite the issues with both DU and CC that were mentioned above, they are going to have to do much the same against both foes to have a chance to be successful. In addition to the larger ice surface at CC, I'm wondering how the altitude might effect the team? Obviously other visiting teams deal with the same issues so Union will have to adapt. One thing I'm pretty sure about is that the Coach won't use it as an excuse. Union's road warrior mentality will have to be front and center as these are probably the two toughest back to back road games that they will have played, rivaling the upcoming Cornell Colgate trip.
 
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Both games will be very tough . A split would be solid+. Denver has a ton of team speed and skill, just seems to play hard one night, not so the next.
RB will have them ready but let me assure you of one thing, I am an MC fan but these are not MC type teams, much faster, deeper etc. Only thing they do not have is MC 's golaie. Other than that, night and day
 
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Union has a shot to win both games, but Denver seems more vulnerable right now. 4 points would be great, but I agree with hokydad... a split would have to be seen as a success.

Union isn't afraid to play the best, says Mike Cioffi of The Troy Record.
 
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So are any Union fans coming out for this one?

Would love to have a pint with a few of you! Will be around the arena at around 530 or 6pm tomorrow night.
 
Re: Union Hockey 2011-2012 Season Thread "We Can See Cleary Now"

Union has a shot to win both games, but Denver seems more vulnerable right now. 4 points would be great, but I agree with hokydad... a split would have to be seen as a success.

Union isn't afraid to play the best, says Mike Cioffi of The Troy Record.

Thats for sure, my favorite team to watch so far this year.

Just keep in mind that Denver is not MC, much deeper, much faster but plays hot and cold. Just hope to catch them on one of their so called cold days
 
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