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UNH Wildcats 2015-2016 (Part Three) - Living in Interesting Times

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I'll wade into the B's discussion with some outside perspective ... it's been dinosaur hockey for far too long, and it's finally caught up with the B's over the last two seasons. They've been fortunate to have had Zdeno Chara in the prime of his career, and the only difference in between his time with the B's and that of Ray Bourque is that Chara had Tim Thomas to thank for his Stanley Cup ring, while Bourque had to get his ring courtesy of Patrick Roy in Colorado. It's always amazed me in what high esteem most around the B's seem to hold Tuuka Rask. What did he have yesterday - a tummy ache? :rolleyes: Shadows of Brent Hemingway, I guess. I'm not sure the B's have actually ever had an elite goalie during my lifetime, but guys like Thomas and Cheevers back in the day had the ability to raise their games in the postseason (which is no small feat to be dismissed as a statistical anomaly BTW).

I think the B's have to get rid of Neely, first and foremost. Sweeney's been in his current job for one season now, so they're realistically committed to him for another year or two at least. Sadly for Julien, I think he will be scapegoated, even though he did a decent job at trying to meet the off-season remit of making the B's a more wide open attacking team this season. The B's defense is a pale shadow of its former self and I don't see that improving quickly any time soon.

To be completely honest about all of this ... the DRW aren't really in that much of a different position right now than the B's. They ended up with the same number of points, and only a quirk in the playoffs system not only got them in over the B's, but handed them a pairing with a suddenly weakened TB team they took to 7 games last postseason. And say what you will about the B's not putting a premium on talented skaters ... but the DRW forwards who at least on paper and on highlight reel goals would *seem* to be the talented kind of group that the B's fans might think would be an improvement, scored significantly less goals than the B's this season. Too few DRW's won't go to the net and pay the price, and that' still an important attribute for a winning team. Otherwise, the goalie situation has two overrated guys - one who is grossly overpaid (see Howard, Jimmy and Rask, Tuuka)), and another who is still coasting on some big games in international games and the Calder Cup a few years ago. And the situation on defense is a collection of far too mediocre players, with the one quality guy (DeKeyser, who is a borderline first pairing guy at best) being asked to do far too much to make up for everyone else.

And now with the news that Datsyuk will be leaving to return to Russia after the playoffs ... all that's left to hope for is whether GM Kenny Holland can pawn off the last year of Pavel's contract onto a team needing to meet the salary cap bottom threshold, and *maybe* try to land Stamkos, and make some decisions on which of the underachieving waterbug forwards (I'm looking at you. Gustav Nyquist) to dump to try to get another legit top pairing defenseman. Holland is another guy who has been riding on his reputation for a little too long now. and needs to remind folks why he's in the job, while his former protégés Steve Yzerman (TB) and Jim Nill (Dallas) have built strong young well-rounded teams elsewhere.

So as you can see ... there's really not that much difference between the B's and DRW. Both are well past their sell-by dates, and both are trying to do their rebuilds on the fly. It's something DRW have only succeeded at marginally (and I mean infinitesimally marginally) better than the B's have so far. Frankly, unless Sweeney or Holland pull rabbits out of their respective hats in the offseason, I think their respective teams can probably start planning for mid-April 2017 golf dates. Sad but true, I'm afraid. :( :(
 
Re: UNH Wildcats 2015-2016 (Part Three) - Living in Interesting Times

I'll wade into the B's discussion with some outside perspective ... it's been dinosaur hockey for far too long, and it's finally caught up with the B's over the last two seasons.
In 2011, the Bs won the Cup, in 2013, they won the President's Trophy and went back to the Finals. So clearly in the very recent past they were a championship caliber club. What's happened since then? They let their defense get old. End of story. If they had Boychuk and Hamilton as their top pairing this year, with Chara/Seidenberg second, and then Krug and whoever third, that team would not only be in the playoffs, they might even do some damage.

It's not because dinosaur hockey has finally caught up to the them or "they've had NO offense since Johnny Bucyk retired". Those might have been true at one time but they're as much things of the past as saying the Red Sox problem is they have a bias against black players. Yes, true at one time, but have you not been paying attention for the last decade or so? Things change, your mindset and opinions need to change with them. I know, we all want to make our minds up about something when we're 25 and just put it on auto-pilot from there, that's fine if you just want to jump on the path to being a cranky, out of touch, old man...but enough about Dick Umile (obligatory UNH content) :):D
 
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So, is April 23rd the next likely day for any news on UNH?

As far as who gets xyz award and Captains? Most likely? Maybe we'll get a surprise...Just fer fun, who do you think will get..
(and these awards have names associated with them, like the Charlie Holt etc...but the names escape me at the moment..)

Most Improved: Dawson? Correale?

Best offensive? Pots (no brainer) plus his All American award

Best Defensive? Cleland?

Captain: TyK
Asst. Captains: Cleland, Hill
 
Re: UNH Wildcats 2015-2016 (Part Three) - Living in Interesting Times

Bergeron, Krejci, Spooner, Pasternak, Marchand, Erikson, yeah, no one to pass the puck to in that group. I'm freaking sorry, if your defensemen require nothing but HOF talent on the other end in order to make a good breakout pass, you're kinda eph'd.

Guy Lafleur, lmao! Man you really are stuck in the 70s. Probably killed you to erase Ratelle and put in Sequin as the other player, huh?

Yeah, I really wanted Leo Boivin passing to Jean Belliveau.
 
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Just to keep this thread on track, there are eery similarities between the Cats and B's: 1) both badly managed (compare UNH poor recruiting and decommits with B's bad drafting, trading, and ridiculously long expensive contracts to those who can no longer keep up on their skates), 2) bad coaching (for example, compare UNH stupid decisions on whom skates on first line and the first PP unit with B's dumb choices on whom gets the puck in shoot outs), 3) blueline players (both terribly inept now), 4) goaltending (if Tirone and Rask do not stand on their heads, their teams have no chance), and 5) no depth on forward lines (UNH had only one line that could score this past year, whereas the B's had two, but rarely in the same game). There is much more, of course, but I am typing on catankerous iPhone.

One more FWIW dept...not the best at home...the 'Whitt was our 'house of horrors' like the Garden, winning only 5, gulp 5 at home...made for a long winter despite the lack of snow...:( Bruins finish just under .500 at home...17-18-6 at the TD. No where to go but up, right!!
 
In 2011, the Bs won the Cup, in 2013, they won the President's Trophy and went back to the Finals. So clearly in the very recent past they were a championship caliber club. What's happened since then? They let their defense get old. End of story. If they had Boychuk and Hamilton as their top pairing this year, with Chara/Seidenberg second, and then Krug and whoever third, that team would not only be in the playoffs, they might even do some damage.

It's not because dinosaur hockey has finally caught up to the them or "they've had NO offense since Johnny Bucyk retired". Those might have been true at one time but they're as much things of the past as saying the Red Sox problem is they have a bias against black players. Yes, true at one time, but have you not been paying attention for the last decade or so? Things change, your mindset and opinions need to change with them. I know, we all want to make our minds up about something when we're 25 and just put it on auto-pilot from there, that's fine if you just want to jump on the path to being a cranky, out of touch, old man...but enough about Dick Umile (obligatory UNH content) :):D

Another spot on post, in my opinion, Titanic references aside.
 
Re: UNH Wildcats 2015-2016 (Part Three) - Living in Interesting Times

In 2011, the Bs won the Cup, in 2013, they won the President's Trophy and went back to the Finals. So clearly in the very recent past they were a championship caliber club. What's happened since then? They let their defense get old. End of story. If they had Boychuk and Hamilton as their top pairing this year, with Chara/Seidenberg second, and then Krug and whoever third, that team would not only be in the playoffs, they might even do some damage.

It's not because dinosaur hockey has finally caught up to the them or "they've had NO offense since Johnny Bucyk retired". Those might have been true at one time but they're as much things of the past as saying the Red Sox problem is they have a bias against black players. Yes, true at one time, but have you not been paying attention for the last decade or so? Things change, your mindset and opinions need to change with them. I know, we all want to make our minds up about something when we're 25 and just put it on auto-pilot from there, that's fine if you just want to jump on the path to being a cranky, out of touch, old man...but enough about Dick Umile (obligatory UNH content) :):D

No doubt, the B's had some success earlier in the decade with what was still glorified, outdated "dump and chase" hockey. That, depth on defense, and a grind-it-out system backed at the right moments by Tim Thomas got them a Cup in 2011. They almost pulled it off again in 2013, except Thomas wasn't around to save their bacon anymore, and Tuumyache Rask wasn't up to the challenge - then or since.

Stupid front office decisions forced them to get rid of Boychuk (and Ference before that), and of course it was inevitable that Chara and Seidenberg would get old and slow down. Hamilton (like Seguin) didn't want to be around anymore, and/or the B's lost their patience (especially with Seguin). You can't tell me that Seguin wanting away from the B's didn't have something to do with wanting to be allowed to open his game up a little, no? The funny thing is, in retrospect, the B's ended up with the right guy (Seguin over Taylor Hall, who was selected first, and has accomplished jack spit so far in his career) but the front office still managed to somehow mess it up.

I've already credited Julien with doing better with his remit to turn the team into a more open, better attacking team than his bosses had any right to hope he would. Marchand had a career year, Eriksen showed why he was valued in the Seguin trade, Bergeron continues to be the model of consistency, and the kid Pastrnak looks like he has a bright future ahead of him. Question there is, will it be in Boston or elsewhere? The other recent Swedish kid the B's had got ditched last year (forget his name?), and while that apparently wasn't a big loss, it still reinforces the image out in the hockey world that the B's play a certain game, and look for a certain type of player.

Just because you're scoring goals doesn't mean it's a work of art, or that you're enjoying success. Listen, I'm the first guy in the room to say "I don't give a rat's arse if we win 1-0, just give me the 2 points" and stow the style points. But the B's have a long-standing image problem, and whether you or I want to agree or disagree on whether it's "dinosaur hockey" or not ... that seems to be the perception of more than a few younger players who have opted out of the program in Boston in recent years. So if you're going to have success, you're either going to have to commit to doubling down on your (boring) style - even if it's "dinosaur hockey" - or get out and try another way.

* The NJ Devils' Cup-winning teams in the Lamoriello era managed to enjoy great success with boring hockey
* The current LA Kings team and its Cup-winning predecessors won't remind anyone of '80's Edmonton or '90's DRW
* And the 2011 B's may end up putting only one (1) of their players in the HOF upon their retirement (Chara)

The B's were set up - like Chicago was at the time - with a talented young core, good enough (if not quite stellar) goaltending ... and all they needed was some patience and vision in the front office to keep it rolling. They ended up with neither, while Chicago - benefitting from the second generation of Bowman hockey genius - has been patient and savvy, not wasting silly money on role players, and as a result look to be set up for about another decade of success at the highest level. That could have been Boston too ... which is why Chiarelli isn't there anymore, and why Neely probably needs to be the next one to leave.

If you think that hurts, let's not forget that Bowman the elder left a cushy consultant's job with DRW to go help young Stan with his new project in Chicago. The Ilitch family's famed loyalty - keeping Kenny Holland in a job, and watching guys like Bowman, Yzerman and Nill move on to greener pastures - has not served their organization well either. And DRW will likely be out of the playoffs by the time the UNH Hockey banquet rolls around. So this is me commiserating, not gloating.
 
No doubt, the B's had some success earlier in the decade with what was still glorified, outdated "dump and chase" hockey. That, depth on defense, and a grind-it-out system backed at the right moments by Tim Thomas got them a Cup in 2011. They almost pulled it off again in 2013, except Thomas wasn't around to save their bacon anymore, and Tuumyache Rask wasn't up to the challenge - then or since.

Stupid front office decisions forced them to get rid of Boychuk (and Ference before that), and of course it was inevitable that Chara and Seidenberg would get old and slow down. Hamilton (like Seguin) didn't want to be around anymore, and/or the B's lost their patience (especially with Seguin). You can't tell me that Seguin wanting away from the B's didn't have something to do with wanting to be allowed to open his game up a little, no? The funny thing is, in retrospect, the B's ended up with the right guy (Seguin over Taylor Hall, who was selected first, and has accomplished jack spit so far in his career) but the front office still managed to somehow mess it up.

I've already credited Julien with doing better with his remit to turn the team into a more open, better attacking team than his bosses had any right to hope he would. Marchand had a career year, Eriksen showed why he was valued in the Seguin trade, Bergeron continues to be the model of consistency, and the kid Pastrnak looks like he has a bright future ahead of him. Question there is, will it be in Boston or elsewhere? The other recent Swedish kid the B's had got ditched last year (forget his name?), and while that apparently wasn't a big loss, it still reinforces the image out in the hockey world that the B's play a certain game, and look for a certain type of player.

Just because you're scoring goals doesn't mean it's a work of art, or that you're enjoying success. Listen, I'm the first guy in the room to say "I don't give a rat's arse if we win 1-0, just give me the 2 points" and stow the style points. But the B's have a long-standing image problem, and whether you or I want to agree or disagree on whether it's "dinosaur hockey" or not ... that seems to be the perception of more than a few younger players who have opted out of the program in Boston in recent years. So if you're going to have success, you're either going to have to commit to doubling down on your (boring) style - even if it's "dinosaur hockey" - or get out and try another way.

* The NJ Devils' Cup-winning teams in the Lamoriello era managed to enjoy great success with boring hockey
* The current LA Kings team and its Cup-winning predecessors won't remind anyone of '80's Edmonton or '90's DRW
* And the 2011 B's may end up putting only one (1) of their players in the HOF upon their retirement (Chara)

The B's were set up - like Chicago was at the time - with a talented young core, good enough (if not quite stellar) goaltending ... and all they needed was some patience and vision in the front office to keep it rolling. They ended up with neither, while Chicago - benefitting from the second generation of Bowman hockey genius - has been patient and savvy, not wasting silly money on role players, and as a result look to be set up for about another decade of success at the highest level. That could have been Boston too ... which is why Chiarelli isn't there anymore, and why Neely probably needs to be the next one to leave.

If you think that hurts, let's not forget that Bowman the elder left a cushy consultant's job with DRW to go help young Stan with his new project in Chicago. The Ilitch family's famed loyalty - keeping Kenny Holland in a job, and watching guys like Bowman, Yzerman and Nill move on to greener pastures - has not served their organization well either. And DRW will likely be out of the playoffs by the time the UNH Hockey banquet rolls around. So this is me commiserating, not gloating.

Tummy ache or not for Tuukka, I do not think that Patrick Roy in his prime could have won that game against Ottawa on Sunday; the B's blueline was horrid, worse than what we watched on UNH this past season. Andrew Ferrence was my favorite player on the B's, so when they let him go, I lost a lot of interest in the team. Then, when they replaced Boychuk and Hamilton with a bucket of rocks, I knew that Neeley and Sweeney had lost their marbles.

One thing that I will say about Leo Boivin, chickod, is that he would hang around on his away out of the old Garden after games and sign stuff for us kids; he, Eddy Westfall, and Orland Kurtenbach. But, wow, were those B's teams awful.
 
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One thing that I will say about Leo Boivin, chickod, is that he would hang around on his away out of the old Garden after games and sign stuff for us kids; he, Eddy Westfall, and Orland Kurtenbach. But, wow, were those B's teams awful.

I played golf with Eddie Westfall...he was best friends with one of the guys at our club. One of THE NICEST, down to earth guys you would ever want to meet. (and obviously I was just joking about wanting Boivin...I actually would have preferred Eddie Shore)....
 
I played golf with Eddie Westfall...he was best friends with one of the guys at our club. One of THE NICEST, down to earth guys you would ever want to meet. (and obviously I was just joking about wanting Boivin...I actually would have preferred Eddie Shore)....

Eddie Shore before my time, but my mom watched him play. :-)
 
Re: UNH Wildcats 2015-2016 (Part Three) - Living in Interesting Times

No doubt, the B's had some success earlier in the decade with what was still glorified, outdated "dump and chase" hockey. That, depth on defense, and a grind-it-out system backed at the right moments by Tim Thomas got them a Cup in 2011. They almost pulled it off again in 2013, except Thomas wasn't around to save their bacon anymore, and Tuumyache Rask wasn't up to the challenge - then or since.

Stupid front office decisions forced them to get rid of Boychuk (and Ference before that), and of course it was inevitable that Chara and Seidenberg would get old and slow down. Hamilton (like Seguin) didn't want to be around anymore, and/or the B's lost their patience (especially with Seguin). You can't tell me that Seguin wanting away from the B's didn't have something to do with wanting to be allowed to open his game up a little, no? The funny thing is, in retrospect, the B's ended up with the right guy (Seguin over Taylor Hall, who was selected first, and has accomplished jack spit so far in his career) but the front office still managed to somehow mess it up.

I've already credited Julien with doing better with his remit to turn the team into a more open, better attacking team than his bosses had any right to hope he would. Marchand had a career year, Eriksen showed why he was valued in the Seguin trade, Bergeron continues to be the model of consistency, and the kid Pastrnak looks like he has a bright future ahead of him. Question there is, will it be in Boston or elsewhere? The other recent Swedish kid the B's had got ditched last year (forget his name?), and while that apparently wasn't a big loss, it still reinforces the image out in the hockey world that the B's play a certain game, and look for a certain type of player.

Just because you're scoring goals doesn't mean it's a work of art, or that you're enjoying success. Listen, I'm the first guy in the room to say "I don't give a rat's arse if we win 1-0, just give me the 2 points" and stow the style points. But the B's have a long-standing image problem, and whether you or I want to agree or disagree on whether it's "dinosaur hockey" or not ... that seems to be the perception of more than a few younger players who have opted out of the program in Boston in recent years. So if you're going to have success, you're either going to have to commit to doubling down on your (boring) style - even if it's "dinosaur hockey" - or get out and try another way.

* The NJ Devils' Cup-winning teams in the Lamoriello era managed to enjoy great success with boring hockey
* The current LA Kings team and its Cup-winning predecessors won't remind anyone of '80's Edmonton or '90's DRW
* And the 2011 B's may end up putting only one (1) of their players in the HOF upon their retirement (Chara)

The B's were set up - like Chicago was at the time - with a talented young core, good enough (if not quite stellar) goaltending ... and all they needed was some patience and vision in the front office to keep it rolling. They ended up with neither, while Chicago - benefitting from the second generation of Bowman hockey genius - has been patient and savvy, not wasting silly money on role players, and as a result look to be set up for about another decade of success at the highest level. That could have been Boston too ... which is why Chiarelli isn't there anymore, and why Neely probably needs to be the next one to leave.

If you think that hurts, let's not forget that Bowman the elder left a cushy consultant's job with DRW to go help young Stan with his new project in Chicago. The Ilitch family's famed loyalty - keeping Kenny Holland in a job, and watching guys like Bowman, Yzerman and Nill move on to greener pastures - has not served their organization well either. And DRW will likely be out of the playoffs by the time the UNH Hockey banquet rolls around. So this is me commiserating, not gloating.
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Yes, Sequin is more offensively talented than Hall. But Hall is nearly a point per game player over the course of his early career, without reaching his prime yet, and playing for a god awful team. Plus he probably had more hits and blocked shots this season than Sequin will have in his career. But let's not let facts get in the way of perceptions and preferred narratives...

Ferrence, Boychuk, Sequin, overpaying Kelly, the Iginla cap penalty, overall cap jail are all on Chiarelli. I like the good decisions and hard choices Sweeney has made in his less than 12 months on the job.

Not a huge Claude fan but I have to give him credit for adapting. My 2 biggest problems with him, even when they were winning, was the awful PP and rolling 4 lines to the point that Gregory Campbell was getting almost as much ice time as Krejci. He's gotten much better on both of those things. Still needs to embrace young offensive talent more, and he failed to develop any of the young D this year - I love the guys toughness but Kevan Miller has no business playing in the NHL. Colin Miller might be a player by now if Claude had given him those minutes.

Biggest point. It's. not. the. offense. 5th in the league is 5th in the league. There wasn't some anomaly where they scored 10 goals every time they played Buffalo, Toronto, and Arizona. They've been in the top 5 in scoring in 4 of the last 6 seasons. I don't know what part of that you guys don't get. Scoring is not a problem. To say it's anything other than slow, untalented defensemen really makes me question a person's hockey knowledge. It's like disagreeing over whether the B's wear black and gold, denying the obvious right in front of our eyes. I do agree that scoring doesn't mean you're having success, the B's not being in the playoffs is proof of that. But that's down to being 20th in the league in Goals Allowed, not being 5th in the league in Goals Scored.
 
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All,

The off season brings out the worst in us.

Things are not great in UNH hockey nation at present and most posters are generally critics who think they can do better. Mike is the most trusted and best poster we have on our site. He drives two hours each way to get to each game and many practices and has done yeoman's work with our recruits. He knows the players, coaches, families, advisors and most everyone who is a legitimate UNH hockey fan or season ticket holder. Please take your anger out on the coaches if you like (I believe it is misguided) and they all have UNH emails (you can look these up on the website) and phone numbers 603 862-1234 is main line and you can talk to them directly. They have a job to do but I believe all three coaches will listen to you if you have great prospects that you feel are a good fit for UNH. It seems many posters are recruiting geniuses and our team could use your talents. Please send the names along to the coaches (I am quite sure they know who all of the players are but most of these star players are committing to the top 8-10 schools as they do every year) and please have these star players contact the UNH hockey office about their interest if they have not been contacted by UNH. It is my humble opinion that most do not have any real inside knowledge about any players that you cannot get off the internet.

I wanted to take the summer off from this site but so many are clueless about the talents of Mike Souza, you jokers sucked me in. Mike Souza is an outstanding recruiter and players and recruits like and trust him. UNH still has a little back log on incoming recruits and he is not going to pull a Boston and cut those loose who are not top two lines or defensive pairings.

If you have free time to belittle CHC on this site, please use your time better by helping out some local charities. Umile is likely leaving within the next few years and Mike Souza will be your head coach. He will very likely find another assistant who is a great recruiter like he is (Mike is earnest and cares about the players as much or more than UNH itself, unlike the competition in hockey east) who played and coached defense. I would rather play for someone like Mike as he does want to win and he will, but he really cares more about the players. The current players love him and he is there for them all day long. I urge you to stop bashing and start helping the coaching staff and the team with your incredible recruiting talents. Many of you are not UNH grads or season ticket holders so you can actually try to convince some of these student athletes to attend UNH. Maybe you know some of these players already. Please let the coaches know of these great players before posting on this site so they can be in the mix.

I have stated before that we have rarely won head to head battles with the Michigan, Minn, ND, NoDak, DU, BU, BC etc over the past 30 years and we can only hope that we will someday. Please ramp down the tone and have a little faith. We may not be great this coming year but we may be. If you want to write bad things about Coach Umile, he is used to it. I hope we do not start attacking players like last summer. Special thanks to Mike for all you do and special shout out to Hockey Ref for being our number one fan. You will see a turnaround over the next few years as we lost 12-13 one goal games this year and were only blown out in 5 or so games. Cleland will be the Captain in my opinion and there will probably be one senior A and one junior A. Take a deep breath to all and don't listen to the others Chuck as you know in your heart that Souza is and will be a great recruiter and closer. He is great with 15-25 year old kids and he will make you proud for sticking with him.

I will see many of you at the banquet and the rest of you in early October for the season opener. The schedule should be coming out in June.
 
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Mike is the most trusted and best poster we have on our site...and knows most everyone who is a legitimate UNH hockey fan or season ticket holder...It is my humble opinion that most do not have any real inside knowledge about any players that you cannot get off the internet.
Thank you! We were all just waiting for someone to tell us who we should trust and value. Thank god you came along! Thank you also for maintaining the "List of Legitimate UNH Fans", that must be exhausting work, so thanks for stepping up and handling that. And finally, I agree, there's no way any of us have spent any time in the rinks watching hundreds of youth, prep, and jr. games - even ones our kids might be playing in - going to showcases, and generally personally meeting and knowing those 15-24 year olds that you say Mike Souza is so great at connecting with and recruiting - but just hasn't recruited yet because he's too nice to do that.
 
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Thank you! We were all just waiting for someone to tell us who we should trust and value. Thank god you came along! Thank you also for maintaining the "List of Legitimate UNH Fans", that must be exhausting work, so thanks for stepping up and handling that. And finally, I agree, there's no way any of us have spent any time in the rinks watching hundreds of youth, prep, and jr. games - even ones our kids might be playing in - going to showcases, and generally personally meeting and knowing those 15-24 year olds that you say Mike Souza is so great at connecting with and recruiting - but just hasn't recruited yet because he's too nice to do that.

Sometimes I just love the give and take on this board. :D
 
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