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UNH Hockey 2023 Off Season Thread Turn and Face the Strange

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I was just up there Wednesday to Friday to see my parents, but next weekend am dropping daughter off at college. Otherwise I'd ask "1. As an insider, is it accurate that you only agreed to retire your lifetime contract if you could appoint your successor, and 2, if that is true, would you agree that the results have been a failure, and what personal responsibility do you take for that failure?"
 
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I was just up there Wednesday to Friday to see my parents, but next weekend am dropping daughter off at college. Otherwise I'd ask "1. As an insider, is it accurate that you only agreed to retire your lifetime contract if you could appoint your successor, and 2, if that is true, would you agree that the results have been a failure, and what personal responsibility do you take for that failure?"

Great questions. My guess? The questions will be pre-screened and submitted only with the AD's prior approval.

So, no chance whatsoever. Academia is no more interested in open discussion than the two political parties ...
 
It may surprise some on here, but I've cut WAY back on my past Fox viewing in the last 30 days, when Fox went RINO. Unfortunately, the freaks gotta keep freakin', so since you're not a WSJ guy either Snives, here's some stuff from a suitably "old school" California guy named Victor Davis Hanson, which may enlighten some folks who prefer your propaganda straight-up from the MSM, which has given most of this stuff a good stern leaving alone:

The Left Has Pushed the Envelope - VDH’s Blade of Perseus (victorhanson.com)

Anyone up for a fun summertime story?

Lot of MBPB stuff from the “old school” VDH, which even if all true and added together would not come close to matching the problems we have with management of men’s hockey at our State U, which is not a fun summertime story in my book.
 
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La Liga Strangiato - INTRODUCTION

It's a beautiful weekend morning on the shores of Bow Lake in rustic New Hampshire, as the former coach awoke early to greet his guest for an afternoon of fishing. Coach's guest on this date would be his successor to the job that had made Coach a legend in his adopted home state during a career that lasted almost 30 years at the other end of Route 4 - miles away both physically and politically from the community better known as "Antiques Alley" which he now called home. The men exchanged warm greetings, having lived in (and sometimes out) of each's social circles for the better part of Coach's career in Durham. The pair had grown closer over the last decade or so, as Coach's career wound down, and he tabbed his former player (and budding coach in his own right) as his successor, so the younger man viewed Coach as sort of a "father figure". It was a relationship mocked by many - including the younger man's most recent boss before returning to his alma mater - but one that both men valued as they grew into the next chapters of their respective lives. In a word, they were ... paisan.

After some small talk and the usual chit-chat about how family and other shared friends were doing, the older man led his former apprentice out to the dock, and they embarked on Coach's Boston Whaler Conquest cabin cruiser to the open waters of the lake do some fishing, sampling out of Coach's wine cellar, and chatting about the travails of the younger man's efforts to carry on Coach's legacy at the big school 30 minutes east of today's rest and relaxation. These had been moments to savor in past meetings of the pair, but on this occasion, the younger man seemed to have something on his mind, which his mentor quickly picked up on:

DU: So Mikey, you seem a little tense today. You haven't caught a friggin' thing. What's up?
MS7: Well ... it's mostly about the job ...
DU: Yeah, it can really wear you down if you let it. You gotta have guys working for you that you can trust ...
MS7: ... well, you see, that's kinda where I might have a problem.
DU: How's that?
MS7: Well ... it's with our new boss ... she's -
DU: ... yeah, she's not paisan. By the way, how's good ol' "Blue Skies" doing??
MS7: - no idea. Haven't chatted to him for years now, ever since the last extension. But ...
DU: No worries, Mikey. I'll tell him you said "hi". He's coming next week to repaint the dock.
MS7: ... no, the Princeton lady won't extend me. AND she wants me to fire one of my guys!
DU: So you fire one of your guys. I mean, Stewie's a nice guy, but Jeff is paisan ...
MS7: No, no - I get that, trust me. But I don't wanna fire anyone.
DU: So don't fire anyone. Don't let that broad tellya what to do with your staff ...
MS7: ... but if I don't fire one of the guys ...
DU: ... or you can fire that guy from Alaska. He's rich, plus that rebound in Anaheim, never forgave ...
MS7: ... then she is gonna fire ME!!

Coach slowly turned the boat and brought the engine down, found the middle of the lake, made sure no one else was within hearing distance, and dropped anchor.

DU: Mikey, listen to your Uncle Dick carefully. I read that stuff you sent me a coupla weeks ago, I mean, real weirdo stuff, makes me realize how happy I am to be outta the racket now. Are you SERIOUSLY thinkina doing that?!?
MS7: I dunno Coach ... it feels like the walls are closing in. Marty is gone ...
DU: I toldya I'd say "hi" to the little papah-pushah next weekend?
MS7: ... no, I mean as a rubber stamp boss, like you had most of your career. Someone who understood ...
DU: Yeah, the whole paisan thing, I follow ya ...
MS7: ... anyway, I gotta contract, it runs out in a year, and I got no guarantees.
DU: So go approach some otha school, get a betta offah, like I did with the palookas out in Amherst ...
MS7: But Uncle Dick ... you had leverage. I got none of that going for me.
DU: Y'know, kiddo ... ol' Uncle Dick still knows some people who know people, and they do contracts too ...
MS7: We can't do that. So I'm kinda desperate, and I'm running out of ideas, so ...
DU: Mikey ... I love ya, you are paisan, but you got the wrong guy. I don't know nothing about turf ...
MS7: ... I didn't expect you to understand, I just want your blessing ...
DU: ... I know lotsa stuff about ice, I even know guys who can put you on ice ...
MS7: ((( rolling eyes, understanding he's on his own now )))
DU: ... I'm a GD hockey coach. I can only do so much.
MS7: Brian Mac said you told him the same thing ...
DU: Just go out, win some games, get your boss drunk, take some snaps, and presto - extension!! ;-)

Coach lifted anchor, and reeled in another catch while eventually turning his Conquest back towards the dock. After finishing off a coupla more bottles while watching highlights of the '98 and '99 NCAA Tourneys, the younger man arose to bid his host goodbye. The older man watched his former apprentice leave, arms folded casually across his chest. Thinking to himself, he felt for the man, but knew the kid would have to deal with this on his own ...
 
Welp, guess it's up to the Red Sox (right...). Not a good look for Boston teams losing game 7 to the 'lower seed' in both hockey/basketball. I know someone who spent 1100.00 to go to that game last night...1100.00...

Interesting story Chuck..I'd be curious to know just how Coach U feels about how things are going. Maybe someone could ask him that at the alumni coached event Thursday?
From what I hear, he will answer that question if asked, as a few fans have but, I'm not spilling those beans...
Thought about going as I am an acquaintance of the field hockey coach but it's pretty early in the morning and just where will I park, lol...

BC women lax lose to a very strong Northwestern team, and Darius how 'bout those 48 consecutive win Sooners!!!
 
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Welp, guess it's up to the Red Sox (right...). Not a good look for Boston teams losing game 7 to the 'lower seed' in both hockey/basketball. I know someone who spent 1100.00 to go to that game last night...1100.00...

Interesting story Chuck..I'd be curious to know just how Coach U feels about how things are going. Maybe someone could ask him that at the alumni coached event Thursday?
From what I hear, he will answer that question if asked, as a few fans have but, I'm not spilling those beans...
Thought about going as I am an acquaintance of the field hockey coach but it's pretty early in the morning and just where will I park, lol...

BC women lax lose to a very strong Northwestern team, and Darius how 'bout those 48 consecutive win Sooners!!!
Eighth seeds, right? Pathetic.

Aw, c'mon. Please?

I watched the seventh inning as it happened. Epic comeback. Surprising, but not shocking. I could have delayed something to stay home and watch the extra innings, but didn't bother. Fait accompli.
 
Per C-H-C UNH has picked up their 8th Dman Zach Hahn:


#ZachHahn (8/6/02) 6’2”, 205 lbs left-shot defenseman from Huntington, NY, commits to @UNHMHOCKEY
. Scored 6 goals, 17 assists in 56 games as Alternate Captain for @paljrislanders
(NCDC). Makes 8 defensemen on 2023-24 UNH roster (Babbage Jenson Reid Huard Gagne Fitzgerald Linder)
 
Welp, guess it's up to the Red Sox (right...). Not a good look for Boston teams losing game 7 to the 'lower seed' in both hockey/basketball. I know someone who spent 1100.00 to go to that game last night...1100.00...

Interesting story Chuck..I'd be curious to know just how Coach U feels about how things are going. Maybe someone could ask him that at the alumni coached event Thursday?
From what I hear, he will answer that question if asked, as a few fans have but, I'm not spilling those beans...
Thought about going as I am an acquaintance of the field hockey coach but it's pretty early in the morning and just where will I park, lol...

BC women lax lose to a very strong Northwestern team, and Darius how 'bout those 48 consecutive win Sooners!!!

Speaking of the Red Sox, if I heard Tom Caron correctly a few moments ago, he was interviewing a bunch of Wakefield students celebrating their senior prom at Fenway tonight. No mention of MS7.
 
Interesting to read the rest of the tweet where it was mentioned UNH played "dirty pool" in the transfer...hmmm

The rest of the tweet:

"Rumors UNH might be playing some dirty pool with Fessenden's transfer. Would be a drastic move to keep a player from a conference rival"


So what could this so called "dirty pool" be? If he wants to go can UNH or MS7 stop him? Asking as I have no clue how the rules work with the portal.
 
Guessing it would have to do with transfers within HE, and UNH not giving the waiver that is often given to players.

Can you transfer to another conference and receive a scholarship?

Some conferences even prohibit athletes from receiving an athletic scholarship or being eligible at all if they transfer within the conference. Who the rules apply to are also different depending on the conference.
Are there any exceptions to transfer rules in a conference?

Be sure you know what rules apply to you if you plan to transfer within a conference because these rules often cannot be waived and have no exceptions. You will need to talk to your athletic department directly to get answers on your conference transfer rules.

But on reading DeltaBravo, it also is possible that UNH is asserting Fessenden used up his one transfer because he entered the portal before Alabama-Huntsville officially dropped the program, and perhaps that second grad transfer is not automatic as it would be for the first grad transfer. https://www.2adays.com/blog/ncaa-transfer-portal-and-transfer-waivers-whats-the-difference/
Athletes competing in the aforementioned sports must apply for a waiver, or sit out a season once they transfer (unless they are graduate transfers, in which case, they receive immediate eligibility).

Jr.Devlin-----------So.Leclerc-----------Sr.Cafarelli
So.Sardarian-----Fr.Ring---------------Fr.Comny
So.Skraskins------Gr.Blaisdell---------Jr.Cronin
So.Winters--------Fr.Lavins----------Fr.Sieden
Jr.Sweeney-------Jr.Lovett----------Sr.Gendron
--------Fr.Turner------------Fr.Walsh

Jr.Gagne--------------Sr.Reid
Jr.Huard--------------Sr.Jenson
Fr.Fitzgerald-----------Jr.Lindner
Jr.Babbage-----------Fr.Hahn

So.Muszelik--------------Jr.Hellsten------------Jr.Forman
 
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Wondering if they are arguing to the NCAA that he already used his transfer so would have to sit out a year to transfer a second time. May be arguing that his transfer was not due to COVID shutting down UAH so he shouldn't be able to move freely a second time. Either way, getting in the way of a 5th year player leaving is pretty scummy and sends out a very bad signal to potential recruits. Think what you want about the more open transfer allocation but this is essentially a grad transfer and UNH is allegedly standing in the way. Not a good look of the rumors are true.
 
Just when you think things couldn't get any worse, and the program's leader couldn't be any more incompetent ...

At the end of the day, isn't this arguably a compliance issue? Is the AD complicit?? If so, are MS7's days numbered???
 
Just when you think things couldn't get any worse, and the program's leader couldn't be any more incompetent ...

At the end of the day, isn't this arguably a compliance issue? Is the AD complicit?? If so, are MS7's days numbered???

So, maybe both MS7 and AD Rich will be sacked?
 
Just when you think things couldn't get any worse, and the program's leader couldn't be any more incompetent ...

At the end of the day, isn't this arguably a compliance issue? Is the AD complicit?? If so, are MS7's days numbered???

I'm sure if UNH is playing the card they have a legitimate gripe, the question becomes "just because you can, should you?" Pulling this does more to damage the UNH program than it does to help. I would say it's nearly a 100% fact that Fessenden is not playing for UNH next season regardless of the outcome. Also, Fessenden playing for UMass does little to nothing in terms of what happens to UNH next season. Even if you somehow manage to get him to play next season under the guise of "it's either us or no one", I don't see that being a good situation for anyone. What is there to gain from this aside from sticking it to UMass (or Fess) at the expense of looking like a petty douche canoe?

Edit: You can argue having Chase Stevenson transfer to Merrimack would be more directly able to alter UNHs results this coming season and that was not a problem.
 
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So, maybe both MS7 and AD Rich will be sacked?

I can't even begin to imagine a newbie like Rich would lose her job over something like this, but it does not reflect at all well on her compliance expertise, and she could get her wings clipped/wrist slapped as a result. Losing ANY face with the UNH admins (or beyond in NCAA-land) would not be a good thing for her personally, and with MS7 skating on thin ice already, if I were in Rich's shoes, that's all I would need to pull the plug on MS7's return. But that's just me ...
 
I'm sure if UNH is playing the card they have a legitimate gripe, the question becomes "just because you can, should you?" Pulling this does more to damage the UNH program than it does to help. I would say it's nearly a 100% fact that Fessenden is not playing for UNH next season regardless of the outcome. Also, Fessenden playing for UMass does little to nothing in terms of what happens to UNH next season. Even if you somehow manage to get him to play next season under the guise of "it's either us or no one", I don't see that being a good situation for anyone. What is there to gain from this aside from sticking it to UMass (or Fess) at the expense of looking like a petty douche canoe?

Edit: You can argue having Chase Stevenson transfer to Merrimack would be more directly able to alter UNHs results this coming season and that was not a problem.

This gives a whole new meaning to GUNHer's "Messy Fessy" tag, and for all the reasons outlined above, entirely avoidable. I wonder if AD Rich realized after the fact that this was a compliance issue, since she is new, and was not here when Fessenden first transferred in, so she thought nothing of the transfer to UMass until it came to her attention that this was a second transfer?? If so, shame on UMass as well if something was not in order, as they should have known of any rules violation as well if they'd done even basic homework on Fessenden's D-1 career?

The Stevenson thing crossed my mind too, but his situation is more comparable to Benedict van Riemsdyk, being a first-time, non-COVID move for a fifth season of eligibility to an in-conference destination.

Regardless, it certainly doesn't give the impression UNH Athletics (certainly Hockey) is a well-oiled machine, does it?
 
This gives a whole new meaning to GUNHer's "Messy Fessy" tag, and for all the reasons outlined above, entirely avoidable. I wonder if AD Rich realized after the fact that this was a compliance issue, since she is new, and was not here when Fessenden first transferred in, so she thought nothing of the transfer to UMass until it came to her attention that this was a second transfer?? If so, shame on UMass as well if something was not in order, as they should have known of any rules violation as well if they'd done even basic homework on Fessenden's D-1 career?

The Stevenson thing crossed my mind too, but his situation is more comparable to Benedict van Riemsdyk, being a first-time, non-COVID move for a fifth season of eligibility to an in-conference destination.

Regardless, it certainly doesn't give the impression UNH Athletics (certainly Hockey) is a well-oiled machine, does it?

At least with the stooges you are supposed to point and laugh at them...
 
The internet is chock-full of finger-pointing, but part of me wants to play devil's advocate and assume the UNH had a definite issue regarding Fessenden's eligibility question.

If not...and if this was indeed "dirty pool" on UNH's part....then this is a huge embarrassment of McCloskey-like proportions to the program . Someone is going to have to take the fall.......
 
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