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UNH Hockey 2023-2024 Season Thread - End Of The Cellar-Dweller Era??

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"Skywalker" is a forgotten guy, largely due to timing of his career (ABA/NBA "Dark Ages") and because he was largely overshadowed by Dr. J coming out of the ABA, and spending most of his pro career in Denver. Then he was surpassed by Bird/Magic, and finally Michael Jordan, while Thompson fell off first due to injuries, and then due to substance abuse issues. But a GREAT college player, and a very good ABA/NBA player ...

Those late 1970s Nuggets run-and-gun teams under Larry Brown were fun to watch. DT won ABA ROY the 1975/76 season when he was second only to Dr J in scoring. Then next year, DT was third in NBA scoring behind Maravich and Abdul-Jabbar, when Dr J was 10th. In 1977/78, DT was second in scoring behind only Gervin. What might have been had DT avoided injuries and depression that led him down a lonely road of drug use. I do not think that support groups were much help back then.
 
That was in a Worcester Regional against Cornell and they were in the lower level.

Wow, I must be misremembering really badly. I attended both games, so if it were Woostah, I must have been seated at ice level because when I was confused by the UHN chants, the person next to me pointed out the disordered placards way up to the right, which I have embedded in my mind as at the edge of a balcony section. Moreover, I always had associated that placard snafu with a horrible UNH loss, hence I thought that it was the Exel Center semi-finals game against Maine.
 
Wow, I must be misremembering really badly. I attended both games, so if it were Woostah, I must have been seated at ice level because when I was confused by the UHN chants, the person next to me pointed out the disordered placards way up to the right, which I have embedded in my mind as at the edge of a balcony section. Moreover, I always had associated that placard snafu with a horrible UNH loss, hence I thought that it was the Exel Center semi-finals game against Maine.

And the Cornell students chanted “You can’t spell” at them.
 
Wow, I must be misremembering really badly. I attended both games, so if it were Woostah, I must have been seated at ice level because when I was confused by the UHN chants, the person next to me pointed out the disordered placards way up to the right, which I have embedded in my mind as at the edge of a balcony section. Moreover, I always had associated that placard snafu with a horrible UNH loss, hence I thought that it was the Exel Center semi-finals game against Maine.

It would have indeed been Woostah, in the 2002 Regional Finals vs. Cornell. The next encounter of importance with Cornell was in the 2003 Frozen Four Semis in Buffalo. We were there for both. For those who would deride "Captain Turtleneck" as being unable to win the big ones ... well, his UNH teams took care of Cornell on both of those occasions. There were lotsa fun UNH trips to Woostah around the turn of the century. In fact, of the four trips to the Frozen Four UNH made during that stretch, three of them originated via the (then) Centrum - '99, '02 and '03, with Albany ('98) being the only exception. And IIRC 2003 was the first year the D-1 tourney expanded from 12 teams to 16 teams.

I don't remember seeing the notorious signage error, but have no doubt it happened, as the Cornell contingent was chanting about something I'd never heard from them before, and it was all over USCHO afterwards. Personally, I didn't give a crap at the time, 'cuz UNH was going to St. Paul to win the whole thing (oops) to even things up with BC's 2001 title. And just like Charlie Brown to Lucy's football, I fell for it again in 2003.

It would be nice to get another legit swing at the big title sometime again before we're all too old (or gone) ...
 
It would have indeed been Woostah, in the 2002 Regional Finals vs. Cornell. The next encounter of importance with Cornell was in the 2003 Frozen Four Semis in Buffalo. We were there for both. For those who would deride "Captain Turtleneck" as being unable to win the big ones ... well, his UNH teams took care of Cornell on both of those occasions. There were lotsa fun UNH trips to Woostah around the turn of the century. In fact, of the four trips to the Frozen Four UNH made during that stretch, three of them originated via the (then) Centrum - '99, '02 and '03, with Albany ('98) being the only exception. And IIRC 2003 was the first year the D-1 tourney expanded from 12 teams to 16 teams.

I don't remember seeing the notorious signage error, but have no doubt it happened, as the Cornell contingent was chanting about something I'd never heard from them before, and it was all over USCHO afterwards. Personally, I didn't give a crap at the time, 'cuz UNH was going to St. Paul to win the whole thing (oops) to even things up with BC's 2001 title. And just like Charlie Brown to Lucy's football, I fell for it again in 2003.

It would be nice to get another legit swing at the big title sometime again before we're all too old (or gone) ...

That exception, the Albany game against BU, is my ultimate all time favorite UHN game! ; -) Pretty much thought we were done for when Krog headed to the box for a penalty (high sticking IIRC) in OT. I'll never forget that pass from MS7 to Mowers for the shorthanded game winner! Oh the faces of the BU fans in the stands! Off to the Frozen Four in Boston, my first of many (went on a 17 year run of FFs after that - only missing the semi-final games in Providence during that stretch). My runner up favorite game(s) were the back to back wins at the Whit in '99 against Maine (needed both) to win their first outright HE regular season championship.

As for a game that seems to be the most overlooked, the win over Michigan State out in Anaheim to advance to the championship. Again, if my memory serves me , the MSU goalie had the best GAA in the nation at the time. Arguably one off the biggest wins in UNH history at the time, but somehow I forget so many of the details of that game.

Fun looking back at that era, met so many good people who became good friends to this day. I find it hard to believe the camaraderie of that period of time in UNH hockey history will ever be matched. Fun times!
 
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That exception, the Albany game against BU, is my ultimate all time favorite UHN game! ; -) Pretty much thought we were done for when Krog headed to the box for a penalty (high sticking IIRC) in OT. I'll never forget that pass from MS7 to Mowers for the shorthanded game winner! Oh the faces of the BU fans in the stands! Off to the Frozen Four in Boston, my first of many (went on a 17 year run of FFs after that - only missing the semi-final games in Providence during that stretch). Runner up game(s) were the back to back wins at the Whit in '99 against Maine (needed both) to win their first outright HE regular season championship.

The original "White Out The Whitt" weekend, and the biggest wins UNH ever achieved against Walshy (RIP). Of course, we know how that turned out, as Walshy and his boys got the last laugh a few weeks later ...

As for a game that seems to be the most overlooked, the win over Michigan State out in Anaheim to advance to the championship. Again, if my memory serves me, the MSU goalie had the best GAA in the nation at the time. Arguably one off the biggest wins in UNH history at the time, but somehow I forget so many of the details of that game.

Joe Blackburn, MSU's undersized goalie, had unreal stats that season, but UNH lit him up for five, with Krog and MS7 scoring twice apiece. It's funny, Souza really came up big in UNH's biggest games ... the SHG assist to Mowers, and a goal and an assist in the '99 FF Final (UMaine) which strangely gave me hope that as a coach, he'd be up to the situations that Umile fell short of. Of course, you gotta get to those pressure situations first, so maybe MS7 still has that in him? If so - he'd better figure out the "getting there" piece quick - something (in retrospect) we took for granted with Umile - or we (and he) may never find out. Which would be a shame - more even so for him than us, I suppose.

Like so many bits and pieces of our college hockey past, it's all but impossible to get a video of that game. And my recollection is that it was televised, somewhere. It's really sad how so many of these moments seem to have been lost.

The pattern to the 2003 Frozen Four Final was somewhat similar, in that Cornell's goalie David LeNeveu had the same microscopically low stats that season, yet UNH jumped out ahead 3-0 in that game (with Steve Saviano playing the MS7 role as postseason stud) and held on for the 3-2 victory. Again, another game whose video is lost to the sands of time ...

Fun looking back at that era, met so many good people who became good friends to this day. I find it hard to believe the camaraderie of that period of time in UNH hockey history will ever be matched. Fun times!

You are so right about this. The UNH traveling contigent was incredible back then - in large part (I believe) due to the fact that home tickets were hard to score if you didn't have season tickets - and those were the days of the "thousands of folks on a wait list" so games in Lowell and North Andover were literally home-away-from-home games most of the time, and it was nothing to have huge swaths of fans at Walter Brown, Matthews, and Conte Forum in their UNH colors. Guys like Charlie Sherman and a very young Jamie Staton would be at the games for WMUR, and it was the closest thing NH has ever had to having its own "pro" sports team, at least in my lifetime. But not too long after those years, minor league hockey showed up in Manchester, the Frozen Four trips stopped happening, and our AD his eye off the ball and took things for granted. I realize I'm probably the guy on here who whines the most about what's been lost with UNH Hockey since those days, but it's nice to know others still remember and cherish those days. I guess that us still being on here awash in all the mediocrity of the last decade-plus is a monument to what used to be the norm, and what I suspect all of us still hope to see as the norm again someday ...
 
The original "White Out The Whitt" weekend, and the biggest wins UNH ever achieved against Walshy (RIP). Of course, we know how that turned out, as Walshy and his boys got the last laugh a few weeks later ...



Joe Blackburn, MSU's undersized goalie, had unreal stats that season, but UNH lit him up for five, with Krog and MS7 scoring twice apiece. It's funny, Souza really came up big in UNH's biggest games ... the SHG assist to Mowers, and a goal and an assist in the '99 FF Final (UMaine) which strangely gave me hope that as a coach, he'd be up to the situations that Umile fell short of. Of course, you gotta get to those pressure situations first, so maybe MS7 still has that in him? If so - he'd better figure out the "getting there" piece quick - something (in retrospect) we took for granted with Umile - or we (and he) may never find out. Which would be a shame - more even so for him than us, I suppose.

Like so many bits and pieces of our college hockey past, it's all but impossible to get a video of that game. And my recollection is that it was televised, somewhere. It's really sad how so many of these moments seem to have been lost.

The pattern to the 2003 Frozen Four Final was somewhat similar, in that Cornell's goalie David LeNeveu had the same microscopically low stats that season, yet UNH jumped out ahead 3-0 in that game (with Steve Saviano playing the MS7 role as postseason stud) and held on for the 3-2 victory. Again, another game whose video is lost to the sands of time ...



You are so right about this. The UNH traveling contigent was incredible back then - in large part (I believe) due to the fact that home tickets were hard to score if you didn't have season tickets - and those were the days of the "thousands of folks on a wait list" so games in Lowell and North Andover were literally home-away-from-home games most of the time, and it was nothing to have huge swaths of fans at Walter Brown, Matthews, and Conte Forum in their UNH colors. Guys like Charlie Sherman and a very young Jamie Staton would be at the games for WMUR, and it was the closest thing NH has ever had to having its own "pro" sports team, at least in my lifetime. But not too long after those years, minor league hockey showed up in Manchester, the Frozen Four trips stopped happening, and our AD his eye off the ball and took things for granted. I realize I'm probably the guy on here who whines the most about what's been lost with UNH Hockey since those days, but it's nice to know others still remember and cherish those days. I guess that us still being on here awash in all the mediocrity of the last decade-plus is a monument to what used to be the norm, and what I suspect all of us still hope to see as the norm again someday ...

Cornell’s Ben Scrivens who we lit up for 6 goals at the 2010 Albany semi’s was no slouch either, with 1.96 gaa and 0.934 sv% for a 21-9-4 record on a team that did not have the firepower of Sam Paolini, Stephen Baby, and Ryan Vesce on the 2001/02 and 2002/03 Big Red teams.

A former Bentley colleague who is a St Lawrence alum had a FF run even longer than Dale’s, as she was one of the ringleaders for the old Hockey-L group. I think that my FF tally since the mid-90’s is about a dozen, but I need to check. I know that my last FF was in Denver for which my brother out there bought us tickets when I thought that UNH would be there, too, in 2008, I think.
 
Cornell’s Ben Scrivens who we lit up for 6 goals at the 2010 Albany semi’s was no slouch either, with 1.96 gaa and 0.934 sv% for a 21-9-4 record on a team that did not have the firepower of Sam Paolini, Stephen Baby, and Ryan Vesce on the 2001/02 and 2002/03 Big Red teams.

A former Bentley colleague who is a St Lawrence alum had a FF run even longer than Dale’s, as she was one of the ringleaders for the old Hockey-L group. I think that my FF tally since the mid-90’s is about a dozen, but I need to check. I know that my last FF was in Denver for which my brother out there bought us tickets when I thought that UNH would be there, too, in 2008, I think.

When looking back at the firepower those teams had through the lens of today, it's almost incomprehensible, something we will most likely never see again. The capacity for those teams to score was a sight to be seen. You legitimately felt like a goal was coming anytime a Krog, Mowers, Bekar, Haydar, Hemmingway, Gare jumped on the ice. It was an embarrassment of riches and why it hurts so much (for me anyway) the ultimate goal was never realized. Seems the old adage "defense wins championships", which I'd always fret about back then, ultimately played out.
 
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Sorry, I have to do my nails...Or wash my hair. Can't decide which but have to do one of them...ha! At least Chuck you can say you went to the 'Whitt
this year :-) *just kiddin'.
 
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Atta boy, Chuck!
 
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”Lock him up! Lock him up!! Lock him up!!!” chanted the crowd outside the Whitt this afternoon.
 
UNH back up to 11th in PWR, in an attempt to get this thread out of Chuck’s cesspool. Gosh, we must have gone almost a month before Chuck just could not help himself.
 
UNH back up to 11th in PWR, in an attempt to get this thread out of Chuck’s cesspool. Gosh, we must have gone almost a month before Chuck just could not help himself.

Angus C gets the call up and will play in tomorrow's game v the Golden Knights in other UNH news...Good luck Angus!!
 
Take the politics to the cafe. D1 is where we forget about the crap in the real world.
 
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