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UNH Commits & Recruiting: 2016 and Beyond

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Snively, who were some of these players? Have we had anyone recently from there? Grayson Downing, just off the top of my head...yes?

Jason Krog
Chad Onufrechuk
Derek Bekar
Lanny Gare
Colin Hemingway
Nathan Martz
Justin Aikins
Tyson Teplitsky
Brett Hemingway
Josh Ciocco

Just off the top of my head... so basically a broad chunk of the core players 1998 to 2004ish and the 4 trips to the Frozen Four.
 
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Jason Krog
Chad Onufrechuk
Derek Bekar
Lanny Gare
Colin Hemingway
Nathan Martz
Justin Aikins
Tyson Teplitsky
Brett Hemingway
Josh Ciocco

Just off the top of my head... so basically a broad chunk of the core players 1998 to 2004ish and the 4 trips to the Frozen Four.

Great list of great players...no wonder it's a hot bed of recruiting (read that online, so heck, it must be true...:rolleyes:)
 
How can we assume UNH is not talking to these kids we know that are out there and we'd love to have? Do we know the recruiting habits of our coaching staff?

You've asked this question before - and while no one outside of the coaching staff can say with 100% certainty there is mounting evidence. Yes, who they're getting and who they're not getting is a big part of that equation.

You can also looks at what other schools our recruits were talking to and what schools the elite recruits were talking to - a lot of that information comes out after commitments are made. UNH has been nowhere to be found on the lists of elite recruits nor have elite schools been pursuing the players Souza has landed so far.

UNH now has two 99 defensemen - one from the EHL and one who is still playing U16. There are plenty of 99 defenseman already playing major minutes in prep schools, the USHL, the BCHL and other high-end junior leagues. It makes you wonder...

You're also dealing with an inexperienced recruiter who is not only recruiting for UNH but is without question the lead recruiter (a job and responsibility he has never held before) What is his approach to recruiting - some evidence is concerning shield many other questions remain. Has he been around enough to truly know what to look for or identify the small things that separate a top recruit from filler? Stewart was on the road a lot this season and seems to be UNHs #1 guy in the BC and US leagues. The only recruit who seems connected to Stewart so far is Sacco - a replacement for a lost walk-on. Does Souza trust Stewart? Is he willing to delegate? Are Stewart's trips being wasted?

No, I don't think UNH is being as aggressive as they should be (in terms of targeting not only elite kids but anyone they like) based on a lot of evidence (mainly how few commits there have been). I also don't care for the pools they seem to be fishing in the most often. And I stillI question whether or not they truly believe they deserve or can compete for the elite.

QU was a nobody without any tradition when Pecknold targeted and landed the first wave of top recruits he needed to build the program and he has eventually put it over the top. Sounds like a coach who never game a **** what anyone else thought and knew his environment would be a great fit for top players and has now proved it. Him barnstorming around BC is a cute story - that's what recruiters are supposed to, and HAVE to do. Without that attitude and effort you will never be successful.

Instead our head coach never travels further than Mass - and you have to wonder if our lead recruiter does either. Was Souza - the decision maker - ever truly on the road during the season? Did he ever miss a game because he was out in the Midwest or Western Canada? I never noticed it. Stewart did, but that means nothing if he can't come home and sell Souza on a prospect he has yet to see...

So no this is not just an uneducated opinion - there is plenty to support that there are real issues and questions surrounding UNH's recruiting efforts. If they land a few top kids over the next couple of weeks I'll apologize for my impatience.

Finally, the few elite kids that have been on campus were here months ago and we haven't heard a peep about them since. If it makes people feel better to think we're targeting kids and just can't land them then more power to them. To me that scenario certainly isn't any better...
 
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You've asked this question before - and while no one outside of the coaching staff can say with 100% certainty there is mounting evidence. Yes, who they're getting and who they're not getting is a big part of that equation.

You can also looks at what other schools our recruits were talking to and what schools the elite recruits were talking to - a lot of that information comes out after commitments are made. UNH has been nowhere to be found on the lists of elite recruits nor have elite schools been pursuing the players Souza has landed so far.

UNH now has two 99 defensemen - one from the EHL and one who is still playing U16. There are plenty of 99 defenseman already playing major minutes in prep schools, the USHL, the BCHL and other high-end junior leagues. It makes you wonder...

You're also dealing with an inexperienced recruiter who is not only recruiting for UNH but is without question the lead recruiter (a job and responsibility he has never held before) What is his approach to recruiting - some evidence is concerning shield many other questions remain. Has he been around enough to truly know what to look for or identify the small things that separate a top recruit from filler? Stewart was on the road a lot this season and seems to be UNHs #1 guy in the BC and US leagues. The only recruit who seems connected to Stewart so far is Sacco - a replacement for a lost walk-on. Does Souza trust Stewart? Is he willing to delegate? Are Stewart's trips being wasted?

No, I don't think UNH is being as aggressive as they should be (in terms of targeting not only elite kids but anyone they like) based on a lot of evidence (mainly how few commits there have been). I also don't care for the pools they seem to be fishing in the most often. And I stillI question whether or not they truly believe they deserve or can compete for the elite.

QU was a nobody without any tradition when Pecknold targeted and landed the first wave of top recruits he needed to build the program and he has eventually put it over the top. Sounds like a coach who never game a **** what anyone else thought and knew his environment would be a great fit for top players and has now proved it. Him barnstorming around BC is a cute story - that's what recruiters are supposed to, and HAVE to do. Without that attitude and effort you will never be successful.

Instead our head coach never travels further than Mass - and you have to wonder if our lead recruiter does either. Was Souza - the decision maker - ever truly on the road during the season? Did he ever miss a game because he was out in the Midwest or Western Canada? I never noticed it. Stewart did, but that means nothing if he can't come home and sell Souza on a prospect he has yet to see...

So no this is not just an uneducated opinion - there is plenty to support that there are real issues and questions surrounding UNH's recruiting efforts. If they land a few top kids over the next couple of weeks I'll apologize for my impatience.

Finally, the few elite kids that have been on campus were here months ago and we haven't heard a peep about them since. If it makes people feel better to think we're targeting kids and just can't land them then more power to them. To me that scenario certainly isn't any better...

Appreciate/ value your insight Dan as I know this is what you do for a living. I do agree, even with my infancy in this whole thing, that we probably are working with inexperience as far as recruiting goes. Obviously as you point out, QU wasn't much until someone like Pecknold created his vision of what he wanted, and went out to get it. At the same time everyone has to start somewhere and I am really hoping MS has been given the full 'go ahead' to do the same.

I'm hoping (and expecting?) that MS has the same ideas, and vision for his eventual program. (And, he's being allowed to get that message out...if it's being heard, well, that's another story). One other thing you mention, those kids who visited campus and haven't signed? At least that shows me they went after them. Of course, having them commit is even better...question is, why aren't they?

To me and of course, take it for what you will, the ONLY way UNH is going to be able to compete with the likes of what I witnessed this weekend watching the Regionals, is to become the team those kinds of kids want to play for. Problem is...how do you do that without drawing those kinds of kids? There in lies the rub I guess. It's like wanting a job but being told you can't have it because you have no experience...how will you get experience if you don't get the chance??

Again, no slam on our current players because we have all seen them play well and you know, 'on any given night' kind of thing...they can compete. Really I expected a better season than what we got this year. Not anything mega but better and I have no answers for any of that. And maybe I don't know jack either but I do know what I witnessed this weekend...and I want that kind of success for this program.

Past history success isn't going to be enough, but it has to speak for something. Problem is, these kids live in the here and now, but maybe, just maybe MS puts together a bunch of kids who buy his vision (and I like what I've heard from him) and it takes off. Heck, if NU can turn things around so can UNH. Dang...we just don't know what he's about and really won't, until he stands in the center of the bench!!! (Honestly, sometimes I wish they had never named him 'HC in waiting'. Personally I feel now this was a big mistake...creates ambiguity all the way around but what do I know about the inner workings of that program??) Still, I remain hopeful, as usual.

Lastly, I just don't believe (or want to believe? ) we aren't trying for the big fish but fully recognize, this is going to take some time...maybe alot of time...

ps...your comment about believing they can get or, deserve top line players is troubling...I mean, you may as well forget it if you don't think you can. What you say, translate into what you ultimately become. Fact. Henry Ford anyone?? :rolleyes:
 
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This is content that is likely in every assistant coaches' bio in the country. All the Brown blurb tells me is he was involved. What does directing mean at UConn? Probably that he was 'recruiting coordinator' and handled recruiting ops, was on the road a lot and helped to narrow the pool. But if you don't believe that Cavanaugh is/was HEAVILY involved and the ultimate decision maker/closer then...well, you'd be mistaken...
 
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You've asked this question before - and while no one outside of the coaching staff can say with 100% certainty there is mounting evidence. Yes, who they're getting and who they're not getting is a big part of that equation.

You can also looks at what other schools our recruits were talking to and what schools the elite recruits were talking to - a lot of that information comes out after commitments are made. UNH has been nowhere to be found on the lists of elite recruits nor have elite schools been pursuing the players Souza has landed so far.

UNH now has two 99 defensemen - one from the EHL and one who is still playing U16. There are plenty of 99 defenseman already playing major minutes in prep schools, the USHL, the BCHL and other high-end junior leagues. It makes you wonder...

You're also dealing with an inexperienced recruiter who is not only recruiting for UNH but is without question the lead recruiter (a job and responsibility he has never held before) What is his approach to recruiting - some evidence is concerning shield many other questions remain. Has he been around enough to truly know what to look for or identify the small things that separate a top recruit from filler? Stewart was on the road a lot this season and seems to be UNHs #1 guy in the BC and US leagues. The only recruit who seems connected to Stewart so far is Sacco - a replacement for a lost walk-on. Does Souza trust Stewart? Is he willing to delegate? Are Stewart's trips being wasted?

No, I don't think UNH is being as aggressive as they should be (in terms of targeting not only elite kids but anyone they like) based on a lot of evidence (mainly how few commits there have been). I also don't care for the pools they seem to be fishing in the most often. And I stillI question whether or not they truly believe they deserve or can compete for the elite.

QU was a nobody without any tradition when Pecknold targeted and landed the first wave of top recruits he needed to build the program and he has eventually put it over the top. Sounds like a coach who never game a **** what anyone else thought and knew his environment would be a great fit for top players and has now proved it. Him barnstorming around BC is a cute story - that's what recruiters are supposed to, and HAVE to do. Without that attitude and effort you will never be successful.

Instead our head coach never travels further than Mass - and you have to wonder if our lead recruiter does either. Was Souza - the decision maker - ever truly on the road during the season? Did he ever miss a game because he was out in the Midwest or Western Canada? I never noticed it. Stewart did, but that means nothing if he can't come home and sell Souza on a prospect he has yet to see...

So no this is not just an uneducated opinion - there is plenty to support that there are real issues and questions surrounding UNH's recruiting efforts. If they land a few top kids over the next couple of weeks I'll apologize for my impatience.

Finally, the few elite kids that have been on campus were here months ago and we haven't heard a peep about them since. If it makes people feel better to think we're targeting kids and just can't land them then more power to them. To me that scenario certainly isn't any better...

It does not take a mental giant to understand that .... "being in control" has been the HC's mantra forever and ever and ever. It only worked for a few years. If Souza could have taken over in 2015-2016 without being weighted down by the UNH legacy of the last dozen years .... then the future of UNH Hockey would look more positive. It is IMPOSSIBLE to come to any other conclusion. WHY, WHY, WHY is that so hard to understand ........

See you in 2018-2019 if the creek don't rise .........
 
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I regret saying/implying that our staff is inexperienced in recruiting as I am aware that both Coach Souza and Stewart have indeed done (and are doing) this arduous, painstaking work. It's gotta be tough and the competition, stiff. I stand by my comments that this is going to be something that even in the change of the guard won't fix over night. I would like to believe they are doing the very best they can, and they deserve support in doing so.
 
It does not take a mental giant to understand that .... "being in control" has been the HC's mantra forever and ever and ever. It only worked for a few years. If Souza could have taken over in 2015-2016 without being weighted down by the UNH legacy of the last dozen years .... then the future of UNH Hockey would look more positive. It is IMPOSSIBLE to come to any other conclusion. WHY, WHY, WHY is that so hard to understand ........

See you in 2018-2019 if the creek don't rise .........

Spot on. My guess is that potential recruits see the inane sucession plan at UNH and take a pass. But, I see that translating to at least 2020-2021 before things turn around, given the lead time in recruiting.
 
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You've asked this question before - and while no one outside of the coaching staff can say with 100% certainty there is mounting evidence. Yes, who they're getting and who they're not getting is a big part of that equation.

You can also looks at what other schools our recruits were talking to and what schools the elite recruits were talking to - a lot of that information comes out after commitments are made. UNH has been nowhere to be found on the lists of elite recruits nor have elite schools been pursuing the players Souza has landed so far.

UNH now has two 99 defensemen - one from the EHL and one who is still playing U16. There are plenty of 99 defenseman already playing major minutes in prep schools, the USHL, the BCHL and other high-end junior leagues. It makes you wonder...

You're also dealing with an inexperienced recruiter who is not only recruiting for UNH but is without question the lead recruiter (a job and responsibility he has never held before) What is his approach to recruiting - some evidence is concerning shield many other questions remain. Has he been around enough to truly know what to look for or identify the small things that separate a top recruit from filler? Stewart was on the road a lot this season and seems to be UNHs #1 guy in the BC and US leagues. The only recruit who seems connected to Stewart so far is Sacco - a replacement for a lost walk-on. Does Souza trust Stewart? Is he willing to delegate? Are Stewart's trips being wasted?

No, I don't think UNH is being as aggressive as they should be (in terms of targeting not only elite kids but anyone they like) based on a lot of evidence (mainly how few commits there have been). I also don't care for the pools they seem to be fishing in the most often. And I stillI question whether or not they truly believe they deserve or can compete for the elite.

QU was a nobody without any tradition when Pecknold targeted and landed the first wave of top recruits he needed to build the program and he has eventually put it over the top. Sounds like a coach who never game a **** what anyone else thought and knew his environment would be a great fit for top players and has now proved it. Him barnstorming around BC is a cute story - that's what recruiters are supposed to, and HAVE to do. Without that attitude and effort you will never be successful.

Instead our head coach never travels further than Mass - and you have to wonder if our lead recruiter does either. Was Souza - the decision maker - ever truly on the road during the season? Did he ever miss a game because he was out in the Midwest or Western Canada? I never noticed it. Stewart did, but that means nothing if he can't come home and sell Souza on a prospect he has yet to see...

So no this is not just an uneducated opinion - there is plenty to support that there are real issues and questions surrounding UNH's recruiting efforts. If they land a few top kids over the next couple of weeks I'll apologize for my impatience.

Finally, the few elite kids that have been on campus were here months ago and we haven't heard a peep about them since. If it makes people feel better to think we're targeting kids and just can't land them then more power to them. To me that scenario certainly isn't any better...

I actually think that scenario is worse (and hope it is not the case.) If you are fishing in the wrong pond you can always change location. But if you are fishing in the proper venue and can't catch anything, chances are you are a bad fisherman. Or at least don't have the proper bait.
 
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Spot on. My guess is that potential recruits see the inane sucession plan at UNH and take a pass. But, I see that translating to at least 2020-2021 before things turn around, given the lead time in recruiting.

Given all of this, it's been great to see the hoopla surrounding our newest commit Lucas Bahn on Twitter by his current team, the Slipjacks...he's also getting props from hockey bloggers for his 2 way abilities and that's a good thing. There's a lot of hockey to be played before he puts on the jersey...
 
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I actually think that scenario is worse (and hope it is not the case.) If you are fishing in the wrong pond you can always change location. But if you are fishing in the proper venue and can't catch anything, chances are you are a bad fisherman. Or at least don't have the proper bait.

Yep, probably just bad fishermen. Btw, Qpac has never had what is considered top end elite recruits. Just kids that are solid players, put in a well structured and disciplined system and given the opportunity to be successful.
 
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Yep, probably just bad fishermen. Btw, Qpac has never had what is considered top end elite recruits. Just kids that are solid players, put in a well structured and disciplined system and given the opportunity to be successful.[/QUOTE]

+1 Solid players...who knew? :rolleyes:
 
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Cite?
He was not at the USA summer festival, so no scouting report
he played at the Fall Beantown Classic, but didn't rate a mention from USHR.com
U16s and U18s at Fall Beantown



There's frankly almost no reports on him. To put caution on it, Dylan Maller had the same description:



The lesson is that Bahn has a decent write-up, his stats are pretty average, and there are hundreds of these sorts of kids. The key is that he is Adam Karasuk, a wildcard who Souza spotted and who has developed into a real prospect.

I follow a few Twitter accounts that reported his announcement, mentioned his upside and I wrongly assumed they were bloggers, like, Over the Boards. ooops...:rolleyes: Ugh. This Karasuk (sik?) kid...similar style of play? Committed to UConn? Sorry, I am learning...
 
It does not take a mental giant to understand that .... "being in control" has been the HC's mantra forever and ever and ever. It only worked for a few years. If Souza could have taken over in 2015-2016 without being weighted down by the UNH legacy of the last dozen years .... then the future of UNH Hockey would look more positive. It is IMPOSSIBLE to come to any other conclusion. WHY, WHY, WHY is that so hard to understand ........

See you in 2018-2019 if the creek don't rise .........

If you're implying that a coach who has never shown much interest in recruiting - particularly in recent years - is all of a sudden ruling the process of selecting players he will never coach with an iron fist then you are WAY off base. I don't buy that, not even in the slightest...

There are obviously plenty of people who think this transition plan is lethal to the recruiting process. I think the transition is stupid AND I think those people who view it as an insurmountable hurdle are dead wrong.

Future recruits know exactly who their coach will be - would it be nice f he could showcase an encouraging product? Sure? What if he turned in a discouraging one?

Souza should be hitting the trail as hard and as often as he possibly can and selling kids on his vision for the program.

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Example - When you arrive I'll be your coach. We're going to play uptempo and skilled brand of hockey and you are exactly the kind of player who will drive that system. You can be a part of the class(es) that put UNH hockey back on the map. We've competed for championships and we will do so again. Can you imagine a more rewarding feeling than re-building a program to elite status?! We're also recruiting players X,Y and Z and boy would you play well together. You'd make each other so much better. Be a part of something special - come play on one of the historic programs in HE and be a major part of our regaining our rightful place in the standings. Play in a big rink where your skill will truly shine and allow you to improve in the ways needed to get to the next level. We have two young NHLers and a bunch of others knocking on the door - due in large part to the improvement in skill and skating they garnered playing in the big surface!

Oh and by the way, we have a great campus, strong academic options, a beautiful rink, were close to the ocean, to the mountains and Boston and were the biggest sports deal in the state. I know you could see yourself spending the best few years of your life here. I know you understand how good UNH will be in a couple of years, what we're building towards and how special a role you can play in that process. I know you understand that UNH will prepare you in every way for the professional ranks. Everything you want and need out of college hockey is right here - come and get it...!

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Recruiting is attitude and effort more than anything else - including succession plans. Dramatically more.

It's fair to ask these questions based on the evidence. It just is. And wondering whether Souza has left the northeast when he was at every game this year is valid. I hope someone can tell me I'm wrong. I'm sure he's not out recruiting now - assuming hockey is like all other sports and requires a tournament dead period. So when does he even get to BC to see a Jake Richardson. If Stewart comes back and raves about Richardson - is that enough for Souza to move or not? That's an important question.

Neither Souza or Stewart have the experience of McCloskey or Borek - especially as lead recruiters on teams with national expectations. It's fair to wonder about that.

It's time for the coaches to aggressively sell top kids with enthusiasm, tolerate no excuses and take no prisoners. I hope that's what they've been doing all along and what they'll do his summer. But the recruiting results raise questions and I am not going to be an apologist for all the reasons they can't be aggressive and enthusiastic and reel in top kid after top kid, because I think 100% hey have the tools available to do so...

The two 99 defenseman must be kids they really like - there's no other reason to move so quickly. So I hope theyre right and not limiting their pool, settling or minimizing what they have to offer in ANY way. Because if they are I don't see a turn around coming under the next regime either and we have an AD who rarely fires anyone without serious off-field cause...

No more excuses - time to get some results...
 
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An unrealistic glean in our eye. I think BC's York flew to see him play over Christmas. I think we need to start lowering our expectations.

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99 D Ian Mitchell (@SGSaints) commits to Denver. Pioneers get a big win from Western Can., rookie RD had 31 pts in 60 and a lot of interest.

Denver is killing it in recruiting. They had this weird theory that when Gwozdecky, who won 2 NCAA championships, was starting to drop and wanted too much money, that they could say no to him. Then, to carry this weird theory further, they let Gwozdecky go. And in a total moment of madness, they did a national search of coaches, not just guys that Gwozdecky knew and Denver alums, and hired a well-known USHL Coach (Montgomery) with solid NCAA experience. Two years later they are in the NCAA final four, and have recruits lined up for the future.
 
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Players who have committed to UNH since Mike Souza returned to his alma mater:

Matt Dawson - Recruited by "other programs" but UNH offered first; primarily a Stewart recruit.
Eric MacAdams - Chose UNH over Providence, BU, and Merrimack; primarily a Souza recruit.
Anthony Wyse - After being denied admission to Dartmouth, chose UNH over Wisconsin, BU, Maine and Vermont.
Joe Sacco - Chose UNH over Providence.

"Under-the-radar", potential "late bloomers":
Corson Green - 17 years old
Lucas Bahn - 16 years old (feature article with interview to be posted in next day or 2).

FYI: Souza has made at least one trip to British Columbia this past season.

When a program misses the NCAA tournament 3 out of the last 4 years and hasn't been to the Frozen Four since 2003, the on-the-road recruiters have to work their butts off when in direct competition with other Hockey East programs for a recruit. They also have to search hard for the next Trevor van Riemsdyk who was on no Division I team's radar when he committed to UNH.
 
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Ref, fixed your post - no hard feelings, but Ronnie's wrong. 'Elite' recruits doesn't limit the pool to the handful of kids who will be top-NHL draft picks, it means extremely successful junior players who will/do make major impacts at the NCAA level.

Quinnipiac has done very well for itself...

* Tim Clifton is a USNTDP product
* Devin Toews was a highly productive and mobile defenseman who dominated the BCHL
* Anas was the #3 goal-scorer and a PPG talent in the USHL
* Aldworth was a highly recruited player who scored 37 goals in the BCHL last season
* Gartieg was a stud, posting two seasons of sub 2.00 GAA in the high scoring BCHL
* St. Denis was a PPG for three seasons in the BCHL, including 89 points in 54 games his final year
* Smith scored 83 points in 54 games his final year in the BCHL

That's just this year's team. Prior to 2015-16 there was...

* Picking up Jordan Samuels-Thomas as highly coveted transfer was huge
* Peca was a high-scoring draft pick from Ontario
* Kellen & Connor Jones were extremely well regarded scorers out of BC

QU has grown up to a high-level of recruit. That's why they're no longer just good, but they're VERY GOOD. We could quibble about the definition of elite, but the fact of the matter is QU has a lot players who were highly recruited and put up elite numbers in junior hockey. Certainly, they have a great system and culture - but they win primarily due to their talent. There has never been a team in the history of organized hockey who has won a championship without talent. Period. The idea that a bunch of grinders can win with effort is what got UNH into this problem in the first place. The good teams have talent. The best teams (QU) have a lot of talent, a great system and culture - but don't over look the impact of talent...
 
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Players who have committed to UNH since Mike Souza returned to his alma mater:

Matt Dawson - Recruited by "other programs" but UNH offered first; primarily a Stewart recruit.
Eric MacAdams - Chose UNH over Providence, BU, and Merrimack; primarily a Souza recruit.
Anthony Wyse - After being denied admission to Dartmouth, chose UNH over Wisconsin, BU, Maine and Vermont.
Joe Sacco - Chose UNH over Providence.

"Under-the-radar", potential "late bloomers":
Corson Green - 17 years old
Lucas Bahn - 16 years old (feature article with interview to be posted in next day or 2).

FYI: Souza has made at least one trip to British Columbia this past season.

When a program misses the NCAA tournament 3 out of the last 4 years and hasn't been to the Frozen Four since 2003, the on-the-road recruiters have to work their butts off when in direct competition with other Hockey East programs for a recruit. They also have to search hard for the next Trevor van Riemsdyk who was on no Division I team's radar when he committed to UNH.

Also, didn't he (Souza) make a trip to Halifax this past season? Looking forward to your article about Lucas...
 
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Matt Dawson - Recruited by "other programs" but UNH offered first; primarily a Stewart recruit.

UNH got Dawson because they were the only school to offer him for this season. Had he waited to enroll as expected, who knows what would have happened. UNH had significant money available and an opportunity to play right away due to Pesce's departure. Is a second or third pair defenseman on a good team.

Eric MacAdams - Chose UNH over Providence, BU, and Merrimack; primarily a Souza recruit.

With the forward talent going into BU and Providence the next few years - I'd bet anything that he received a significantly better scholarship and opportunity promise at UNH. I like MacAdams, but he's not a top-six forward on a competitive team.

Anthony Wyse - After being denied admission to Dartmouth, chose UNH over Wisconsin, BU, Maine and Vermont.

Wyse is the best Souza recruit so far - by far - but your own article quotes him as saying the other schools he considered were Maine and Vermont. Perhaps BU offered him a walk-on slot as insurance, but if they don't lose THREE defensemen this summer there is no where for him to play and certainly no money. He's wasn't beating out Hickey, McAvoy, McLeod, Diffley, Fortunato, Somerby or McLeod. Maybe Switzer?

Joe Sacco - Chose UNH over Providence.

A walk-on supporting cast player at either school.

"Under-the-radar", potential "late bloomers":
Corson Green - 17 years old
Lucas Bahn - 16 years old (feature article with interview to be posted in next day or 2).

We'll learn a lot about these two when they make it to juniors, both seem to have potential but A LOT of work to do and A LOT to prove.

FYI: Souza has made at least one trip to British Columbia this past season.

Good to hear.

When a program misses the NCAA tournament 3 out of the last 4 years and hasn't been to the Frozen Four since 2003, the on-the-road recruiters have to work their butts off when in direct competition with other Hockey East programs for a recruit. They also have to search hard for the next Trevor van Riemsdyk who was on no Division I team's radar when he committed to UNH.

Harder than Ferris State has to work when competing with UM, MSU, WMU, ND, etc to get kids to the garbage dump that is Big Rapids? Harder than NU has to work as the third option within a mile radius? Harder than Providence had to work when they were a disaster upon Leaman's arrival (also see Quinnipiac/Pecknold and Lowell/Bazin)? Harder than a DII university like St. Cloud and so many others? Is it harder for us to manage the admissions process than Harvard or Yale?

Every school has hurdles - Many of which are A LOT WORSE than missing the tourney a few years. Some schools have coaches who ignore hurdles and other schools have coaches who are overwhelmed by hurdles. We'll see where Souza ends up on that spectrum. Every school competes with other schools for recruits. I remember when we used to compete with BU, BC, UM, ND, DU and UND for the top kids (apples to apples), now we compete with MC, ME and VT while fighting for the 'oranges' that fall of the big school tables...

I'm not interested in us beating out other schools who have only expressed interest in a kid by asking a coach about him, or inviting him to campus or to attend a camp. When can we expect to beat out tangible offers...?? Recruiters will usually throw out wide nets in case of emergency back-up plans. It doesn't always mean there is legitimate interest.

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Watcher is right about DU - they have gotten so many great kids. They will be a force under Montgomery, who's approach to recruiting is simply, "That kid's good. DU is great. He's mine."
 
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