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UNH At The Starting Gate....

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SteveF said:
wow 12 whole games? so does that mean you think the nhl season is only 11 games long? because that was malt's point about a trophy that represents more games played is more important.. your little spinorama of 4 vs 12 was arbitrary and did nothing other than prove how much you suck at counting.
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The NHL playoffs are up to 16 wins. Each SERIES is a best of 7 (first to 4 wins the series). So, you need to win 16 games, but they don't need to be in a row... like the NCAAs. The NCAAs, being a single game elimination tournament, is a much different dynamic than the NHL's 4 round - Best of 7 series dynamic.

A team could theorhetically win 4 7-game series and play 28 games in the playoffs. The most games a team can play in the NCAAs is 4 ....and you have to win them all in a row. The difference between these two postseason set-ups is massive.
 
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unhpuckfan2001 said:
READING COMPREHENSION.

You quoted Malts post, in which he says, "the playoffs are important, but the regular season is also." At no point did he say that the RS was more important. It's a step in the right direction. It seems as though many (read: not all) BC Posters are waiting for UNH fans to say, "The Regular Season trophy is everything." We haven't, so you're starting to read things into posts that simply aren't there.

Don't misunderstand us. Offer us a NC v. RS, we'll all take the NC. But if all we can achieve one year is the RS crown and a win or two in the NCAAs, it's better than nothing.
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That is the gist of it... I could have put it better originally, but clearly didn't. We want a NC, but a RS crown is still an achievement and not something of minimal/no meaning.
 
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Nick Papagiorgio said:
Who is "we"? Doesn't seem to include Malts.

BTW, BC already did that in 2001.

Perhaps UNH can win a national title so the few dopey fans (Malts/Greg Ambrose) in Titletown can stop pretending like winning the regular season is the equivalent of the college hockey Stanley Cup.

I surely would like to see it if it can't be BC.
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Nick... it is not that hard. The whole point that I was trying to make (and I clearly said it wrong) was that the Regular Season crown meant that you were the best over a 5 month period and not just 4 games in a row at the end. Yes, I dearly would love for UNH to win a NC, but, no, I won't say a season in which a RS crown is won is a bad one/failed one/underachieving one or anything of the sort. At BC, I know you all expect them to win the NC every year. That is great. I just said that if you win the RS crown you have proven over the 5 months of the season that you were the best DURING THE SEASON. The playoffs at the end are a 4 game race.... best team to catch fire for 4 games straight wins. I want UNH to be that team that wins the NC. Of course I do. But I will not downplay or diminish the accomplishment that a RS crown is. There is value in it-- regardless of how little stock you guys put in it.
 
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You guys need to kill this thread. Seriously. "At the starting gate??" You're a few feet from the finish line!
 
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Malts18 said:
Nick... it is not that hard. The whole point that I was trying to make (and I clearly said it wrong) was that the Regular Season crown meant that you were the best over a 5 month period and not just 4 games in a row at the end. Yes, I dearly would love for UNH to win a NC, but, no, I won't say a season in which a RS crown is won is a bad one/failed one/underachieving one or anything of the sort. At BC, I know you all expect them to win the NC every year. That is great. I just said that if you win the RS crown you have proven over the 5 months of the season that you were the best DURING THE SEASON. The playoffs at the end are a 4 game race.... best team to catch fire for 4 games straight wins. I want UNH to be that team that wins the NC. Of course I do. But I will not downplay or diminish the accomplishment that a RS crown is. There is value in it-- regardless of how little stock you guys put in it.
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Chad, I'd give up humoring Spaghetti-Ohs or Chef Boyardee or whatever his alter ego is.
 
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Everybody reading this needs to post a few comments. And do it in separate posts.
 
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That way, maybe you can actually get off the starting line and I won't have to see this title in April.
 
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I'd like to see "UNH at the Finish Line" before you've passed over it.

So pad those post-counts, kids!
 
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When zoofer started this thread, UNH was at the Starting Gate of the regular season.
A week from Friday, UNH will be at the Starting Gate of the Hockey East Tournament.
If all goes well, at the end of March, UNH will be at the Starting Gate of the NCAA tournament.
A multipurpose thread name.
 
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Malts18 said:
A team could theorhetically win 4 7-game series and play 28 games in the playoffs. The most games a team can play in the NCAAs is 4 ....and you have to win them all in a row. The difference between these two postseason set-ups is massive.
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so its easier to win the stanley cup than the ncaa tournament? and how exactly does this help your point??


Malts18 said:
Nick... it is not that hard. The whole point that I was trying to make (and I clearly said it wrong) was that the Regular Season crown meant that you were the best over a 5 month period and not just 4 games in a row at the end..
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no, you clearly never have/had/will ever have a point which you perfectly demonstrated when you flip flopped your logic by saying the presidents trophy was less impressive than the stanley cup despite the fact that its an 82 game sample vs a maximum of 28 game sample in the NHL playoffs. yet you also contend that the HE conference regular season title somehow makes you the best team in the country (what is that? there are other conferences??) because it is a larger sample than the conference or NCAA playoffs.

coincidently and most incredibly, all this time the respective teams you cheer for in each league just so happen to do significantly better in the category of trophies that you have come to believe are most important. now that is good luck!!
 
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Malts18 said:
The whole point that I was trying to make (and I clearly said it wrong)
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I think we all know you said it wrong. But the spinning and spinning and spinning you're doing makes me think you don't believe you said anything wrong.

You keep making points that we all agree on and playing those off as if we don't agree ("There is value in it-- regardless of how little stock you guys put in it" and "I won't say a season in which a RS crown is won is a bad one/failed one/underachieving one or anything of the sort"). And the best part is that you find it interesting that there could be another complete topic about the fact that some teams sacrifice the regular season so they can win the more important games in the postseason. There's just a big hole in that logic there but I don't want to harp on it too much because I don't think you can handle the concept and figure out what's going on here. And that's ok. So while you think "that if you win the RS crown you have proven over the 5 months of the season that you were the best DURING THE SEASON" I would disagree that it proves anything since several other programs are putting more weight to the games played in the postseason than UNH does apparently. All it proves is that the team that won it had more points than the other teams that didn't win it. Not that hard to figure out.

Clark-Hislop-Cox said:
If all goes well, at the end of March, UNH will be at the Starting Gate of the NCAA tournament.
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Another first round Umiliation this year and that NCAA tourney starting gate will also be the finish line. :(
 
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Malts18 said:
Nick... it is not that hard. The whole point that I was trying to make (and I clearly said it wrong) was that the Regular Season crown meant that you were the best over a 5 month period and not just 4 games in a row at the end. Yes, I dearly would love for UNH to win a NC, but, no, I won't say a season in which a RS crown is won is a bad one/failed one/underachieving one or anything of the sort. At BC, I know you all expect them to win the NC every year. That is great. I just said that if you win the RS crown you have proven over the 5 months of the season that you were the best DURING THE SEASON. The playoffs at the end are a 4 game race.... best team to catch fire for 4 games straight wins. I want UNH to be that team that wins the NC. Of course I do. But I will not downplay or diminish the accomplishment that a RS crown is. There is value in it-- regardless of how little stock you guys put in it.
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Also, American League East champ means more than World Series Champ and AFC East champ means more than Super Bowl champ. Got it.
 
Nick Papagiorgio said:
I think we all know you said it wrong. But the spinning and spinning and spinning you're doing makes me think you don't believe you said anything wrong.

You keep making points that we all agree on and playing those off as if we don't agree ("There is value in it-- regardless of how little stock you guys put in it" and "I won't say a season in which a RS crown is won is a bad one/failed one/underachieving one or anything of the sort"). And the best part is that you find it interesting that there could be another complete topic about the fact that some teams sacrifice the regular season so they can win the more important games in the postseason. There's just a big hole in that logic there but I don't want to harp on it too much because I don't think you can handle the concept and figure out what's going on here. And that's ok. So while you think "that if you win the RS crown you have proven over the 5 months of the season that you were the best DURING THE SEASON" I would disagree that it proves anything since several other programs are putting more weight to the games played in the postseason than UNH does apparently. All it proves is that the team that won it had more points than the other teams that didn't win it. Not that hard to figure out.



Another first round Umiliation this year and that NCAA tourney starting gate will also be the finish line. :(
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I think I get it. If BC wins the regular season title its because they are the best ever, and if they don't win it, its because Jerry York had some grand Belichickian scheme to sacrifice and prepare for the post season. Makes sense. I guess.
 
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Slasher7 said:
Numbnuts, how many times has UNH won the regular season title and failed to win the tournament? Pretty easy question, even for an uneducated hillbilly.
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Hey, Eddie Haskell, thats not what you asked. Don't take your stupidity out on him. What you asked was quoted. It might be what you MEANT to ask, but its not what you asked. Period. Go drive daddy's Audi off of a short pier.
 
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GoUNH said:
I think I get it. If BC wins the regular season title its because they are the best ever, and if they don't win it, its because Jerry York had some grand Belichickian scheme to sacrifice and prepare for the post season. Makes sense. I guess.
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No you idiot, York realizes the varying importance of each game. It's the reason why down 2-1 for the entire 3rd in November against you guys he kept cycling all 4 lines instead of driving the top 2 lines into the ground. The experience pays off going forward.
 
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