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UNH 2024/2025 Goldberg Edition

Chiming to add that I absolutely loved the alternates worn Saturday night against the USNDT. I particularly liked it simply stating New Hampshire, though in perhaps a different font. Like many of my vintage, I have pined for a return of the interlocking NH, so was stoked to see the shoulder patches.

As for the on-ice product, a few too many defensive lapses...poor changes; bad pinches, etc. Real season starts after the New Year; gotta move up the standings.
 
e.cat said:
Wow! How bout them Catamoumts?
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Funny, all it takes is a "miracle out of nowhere" win like UVM Men's Soccer to make you realize how close UNH actually was to pulling off the same amazing feat. During Hubbard's UNH tenure, it was often UNH vs. UVM in the big games, and while UVM won some of them, UNH was usually winning them. And is it coincidence that the year UVM finally broke through in a major way, UNH took its foot off the gas by letting its own talismanic coach leave to coach the NC State program?? Maybe ... maybe not.

Two years ago, UNH had a chance to exhibit some vision with their Athletic Director choice. Yours truly had suggested a few times on here how hiring the upwardly mobile BUT locally based lifer Hubbard to do double duty as Soccer HC and overall AD would be a way to get the man paid to a level where he could plan to spend the rest of his career here, in his hometown, in a sport where D-1 HC salaries are unlikely to make guys like Hubbard have to chase a payday - at least not over the next generation he can expect to coach.

But UNH trod the politically correct "safe" course, and hired an Ivy bean-counter with a side hustle in Compliance.

When we sit and wonder why we can't ever seem to have nice things, remember what UNH did at this key juncture ...
 
Chuck Murray said:
Funny, all it takes is a "miracle out of nowhere" win like UVM Men's Soccer to make you realize how close UNH actually was to pulling off the same amazing feat. During Hubbard's UNH tenure, it was often UNH vs. UVM in the big games, and while UVM won some of them, UNH was usually winning them. And is it coincidence that the year UVM finally broke through in a major way, UNH took its foot off the gas by letting its own talismanic coach leave to coach the NC State program?? Maybe ... maybe not.

Two years ago, UNH had a chance to exhibit some vision with their Athletic Director choice. Yours truly had suggested a few times on here how hiring the upwardly mobile BUT locally based lifer Hubbard to do double duty as Soccer HC and overall AD would be a way to get the man paid to a level where he could plan to spend the rest of his career here, in his hometown, in a sport where D-1 HC salaries are unlikely to make guys like Hubbard have to chase a payday - at least not over the next generation he can expect to coach.

But UNH trod the politically correct "safe" course, and hired an Ivy bean-counter with a side hustle in Compliance.

When we sit and wonder why we can't ever seem to have nice things, remember what UNH did at this key juncture ...
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Yup. Coulda woulda shoulda!
 
Chuck Murray said:
Funny, all it takes is a "miracle out of nowhere" win like UVM Men's Soccer to make you realize how close UNH actually was to pulling off the same amazing feat. During Hubbard's UNH tenure, it was often UNH vs. UVM in the big games, and while UVM won some of them, UNH was usually winning them. And is it coincidence that the year UVM finally broke through in a major way, UNH took its foot off the gas by letting its own talismanic coach leave to coach the NC State program?? Maybe ... maybe not.

Two years ago, UNH had a chance to exhibit some vision with their Athletic Director choice. Yours truly had suggested a few times on here how hiring the upwardly mobile BUT locally based lifer Hubbard to do double duty as Soccer HC and overall AD would be a way to get the man paid to a level where he could plan to spend the rest of his career here, in his hometown, in a sport where D-1 HC salaries are unlikely to make guys like Hubbard have to chase a payday - at least not over the next generation he can expect to coach.

But UNH trod the politically correct "safe" course, and hired an Ivy bean-counter with a side hustle in Compliance.

When we sit and wonder why we can't ever seem to have nice things, remember what UNH did at this key juncture ...
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Not bad for an unseeded team...who beat 4 other ranked teams...doubt many had them winning it all. But it happens...ask Union and Providence as examples. Both 14/15th? coming into their Championship years...
 
bakchk20 said:
Wasn't at the game but saw the photos on UNH Facebook. I would go with them fulltime in a heartbeat. ANYTHING to burn the current fatty circus font. Have hated it since day one. Yeah, "lets take a fabulous, traditional font, trash it, in use this ridiculous new thing!" Thats what we got for the 6 digit consulting fee to a so-called marketing genius, whose name I can't recall at this hour of the day. And the athletic dept certainly had to approve. It wasn't broke! Idiots...

Do you wanna know how I really feel? Ha
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100% agree with the sentiment of anything but the italic font. Even the kitty cat face sweaters from the 80's are better, but not by much. Heck, bring back the Cooperalls look from the 80's. The interlocking NH works, though I was wearing one time and someone parked in their car yelled - "YANKEES SUCK". :-)

The best choice would be to bring back the classic block UNH like in the 90's/early 2000's. Those were PERFECT!!
 
Snively65 said:
Don’t look now, but Catamounts hockey team playing much better this season, too.
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I see that they swept Union this past weekend...We NEVER play well against them, or should I say, rarely. I think we split with them last season. I usually do not have
high hopes for our games with them if I'm being honest? Maybe this year? They (UVM) seems to get up for these games..Their record isn't exactly gang busters but they did dispose of the flagship (UMass) winning 2 of 3. We could really use those 6 points...
 
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Chuck Murray said:
Funny, all it takes is a "miracle out of nowhere" win like UVM Men's Soccer to make you realize how close UNH actually was to pulling off the same amazing feat. During Hubbard's UNH tenure, it was often UNH vs. UVM in the big games, and while UVM won some of them, UNH was usually winning them. And is it coincidence that the year UVM finally broke through in a major way, UNH took its foot off the gas by letting its own talismanic coach leave to coach the NC State program?? Maybe ... maybe not.

Two years ago, UNH had a chance to exhibit some vision with their Athletic Director choice. Yours truly had suggested a few times on here how hiring the upwardly mobile BUT locally based lifer Hubbard to do double duty as Soccer HC and overall AD would be a way to get the man paid to a level where he could plan to spend the rest of his career here, in his hometown, in a sport where D-1 HC salaries are unlikely to make guys like Hubbard have to chase a payday - at least not over the next generation he can expect to coach.

But UNH trod the politically correct "safe" course, and hired an Ivy bean-counter with a side hustle in Compliance.

When we sit and wonder why we can't ever seem to have nice things, remember what UNH did at this key juncture ...
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Taking a look at the bracket I see that NC State lost to Marshall (runner up) 2-1 in the sweet 16, so Hubbard's unseeded team did fairly well..if I have that right!
 
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Chuck Murray said:
Funny, all it takes is a "miracle out of nowhere" win like UVM Men's Soccer to make you realize how close UNH actually was to pulling off the same amazing feat. During Hubbard's UNH tenure, it was often UNH vs. UVM in the big games, and while UVM won some of them, UNH was usually winning them. And is it coincidence that the year UVM finally broke through in a major way, UNH took its foot off the gas by letting its own talismanic coach leave to coach the NC State program?? Maybe ... maybe not.

Two years ago, UNH had a chance to exhibit some vision with their Athletic Director choice. Yours truly had suggested a few times on here how hiring the upwardly mobile BUT locally based lifer Hubbard to do double duty as Soccer HC and overall AD would be a way to get the man paid to a level where he could plan to spend the rest of his career here, in his hometown, in a sport where D-1 HC salaries are unlikely to make guys like Hubbard have to chase a payday - at least not over the next generation he can expect to coach.

But UNH trod the politically correct "safe" course, and hired an Ivy bean-counter with a side hustle in Compliance.

When we sit and wonder why we can't ever seem to have nice things, remember what UNH did at this key juncture ...
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Hubbard didn’t leave because of money. Surprisingly, he didn’t get much of a raise to up and move to the mid Atlantic!

Also, Division 1 Universities can’t name coaches as ADs. Coaching and recruiting is a full time job. You can’t combine two full time jobs and have them operate efficiently.
 
BlueLine Bob said:
Hubbard didn’t leave because of money. Surprisingly, he didn’t get much of a raise to up and move to the mid Atlantic!

Also, Division 1 Universities can’t name coaches as ADs. Coaching and recruiting is a full time job. You can’t combine two full time jobs and have them operate efficiently.
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I recall that at the time there was speculation here that maybe Hubbard was thinking that there was more upward mobility at NC.

The Div 1 hiring constraints make sense to me, as being an AD also should be a full-time job, especially given all the compliance concerns. :)
 
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Hubbard didn't leave because of money. Surprisingly, he didn't get much of a raise to up and move to the mid Atlantic!
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So why did he leave then? Curious. If it was because he didn't think a school like UNH could ever make it to the top of the heap, it looks kinda silly now, especially in light of what his old rivals accomplished earlier this month.

BlueLine Bob said:
Also, Division 1 Universities can't name coaches as ADs. Coaching and recruiting is a full time job. You can't combine two full time jobs and have them operate efficiently.
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Asking because I don't know the answer ... is that an opinion, or is there a specific rule preventing this??
 
Chuck Murray said:
So why did he leave then? Curious. If it was because he didn't think a school like UNH could ever make it to the top of the heap, it looks kinda silly now, especially in light of what his old rivals accomplished earlier this month.



Asking because I don't know the answer ... is that an opinion, or is there a specific rule preventing this??
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Many were surprised when he left. He never publicly stated but the talk was it was a family move.

There is not a specific NCAA rule against serving as both but the jobs are so vastly different and time consuming that D1 athletic departments would crumble with a part time AD. In the old days, they would name football coaches ADs to get them bigger paychecks and prestige. And the coach then would report to the University President directly. In those situations there was an Associate AD actually doing the job. I believe the last coach to have an AD title was back in 2008 at Louisiana Tech. Coaching is a 12 month commitment, especially with limited assistants like in soccer. They aren’t just figure heads. They are on the road (and overseas) in the offseason and much of in season.
The AD has to work with all the teams. The job function is much more desk work - compliance, budgets, logistics, branding, marketing. The hiring/firing part is actually very, very limited. Most ADs only end up hiring a handful of head coaches in their tenure as assistants are typically hired by the head coaches. And even during coaching searches, the AD is one part of it. There are search committees, interview committees, senior administrators, Deans, and the College President. An AD doesn’t have the autonomous power most think they do.
 
Behind and apologize if it’s been posted. Why are the HE championship games Thursday and Friday this year? Not like it matters as I won’t be attending the U there just seemed weird that it changed.
 
Chuck Murray said:
SPOILER ALERT: Fessenden absolutely clocks the opposing goalie. All Marquis of Queensbury too, as the UNH guy waits at center ice while watching his future victim lurk around some other skirmishes down at his end of the ice. This may be the UNH "Coast League Moment of the Season" to date. Goon hockey still rules!!!! :cool:
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LOL! I remember the game he got kicked out of for 'crotch checking' someone...so he's definitely got it in him...!
 
Chuck Murray said:
SPOILER ALERT: Fessenden absolutely clocks the opposing goalie. All Marquis of Queensbury too, as the UNH guy waits at center ice while watching his future victim lurk around some other skirmishes down at his end of the ice. This may be the UNH "Coast League Moment of the Season" to date. Goon hockey still rules!!!! :cool:
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Need an ECHL team back at the SNHU Arena.
 
BlueLine Bob said:
Many were surprised when he left. He never publicly stated but the talk was it was a family move.

There is not a specific NCAA rule against serving as both but the jobs are so vastly different and time consuming that D1 athletic departments would crumble with a part time AD. In the old days, they would name football coaches ADs to get them bigger paychecks and prestige. And the coach then would report to the University President directly. In those situations there was an Associate AD actually doing the job. I believe the last coach to have an AD title was back in 2008 at Louisiana Tech. Coaching is a 12 month commitment, especially with limited assistants like in soccer. They aren’t just figure heads. They are on the road (and overseas) in the offseason and much of in season.
The AD has to work with all the teams. The job function is much more desk work - compliance, budgets, logistics, branding, marketing. The hiring/firing part is actually very, very limited. Most ADs only end up hiring a handful of head coaches in their tenure as assistants are typically hired by the head coaches. And even during coaching searches, the AD is one part of it. There are search committees, interview committees, senior administrators, Deans, and the College President. An AD doesn’t have the autonomous power most think they do.
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If I remember correctly, Gib Chapman was both AD and UNH Mens Basketball coach when he was here....but I don't remember if he was "Co-AD" with "Co-AD" Judy Ray at that time.
 
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