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UNH 2021 Off-Season Thread: Finally!?!

Didn’t Souza strongly imply in a press conference that Kelleher was returning for a fifth year? I wonder if he found a professional offer he couldn’t turn down or if he is entering the transfer portal as well? Would he rather explore those options than return to UNH? Is he moving on to a real career post graduation?

Regardless, this move makes room for the potential addition of a younger recruit like Turner or Gagne.
 
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[TR]
[TD]Sr.Tyler Ward[/TD]
[TD]Sr.Jackson Pierson[/TD]
[TD]So.Cam Gendron[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jr.Chase Stevenson[/TD]
[TD]Sr.Filip Engaras[/TD]
[TD]So.Nick Cafarelli[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sr.Eric McAdams[/TD]
[TD]Jr.Lucas Herrmann[/TD]
[TD]Fr.John Evans[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fr.Will Margel[/TD]
[TD]Fr.Robert Cronin[/TD]
[TD]Sr.Eric Esposito[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fr.Connor Sweeney[/TD]
[TD]Sr.Joe Cipollone[/TD]
[TD]So.Carsen Richels[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fr.Jack Ring[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]Jr.Joe Hankinson[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]








[TABLE="border: 1, cellpadding: 1"]
[TR]
[TD]So.Luke Reid[/TD]
[TD]Jr.Kalle Eriksson[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sr.Will Mckinnon[/TD]
[TD]Fr.Nick Ardanaz[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sr.Ryan Verrier[/TD]
[TD]Fr.Alex Gagne[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fr.Colton Huard[/TD]
[TD]So.Nikolai Jenson[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]So.Joe Nagle[/TD]
[TD]Sr.Drew Hickey[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="border: 1, cellpadding: 1"]
[TR]
[TD]Fr.Jed Balotti???????[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sr.TBD[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]So.Jeremy Forman[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Dan said:
Didn’t Souza strongly imply in a press conference that Kelleher was returning for a fifth year? I wonder if he found a professional offer he couldn’t turn down or if he is entering the transfer portal as well? Would he rather explore those options than return to UNH? Is he moving on to a real career post graduation?

Regardless, this move makes room for the potential addition of a younger recruit like Turner or Gagne.
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Read today that the portal has a lot of skaters..can it be viewed? Bet he is going pro as you said.
 
Dan said:
Didn't Souza strongly imply in a press conference that Kelleher was returning for a fifth year? I wonder if he found a professional offer he couldn't turn down or if he is entering the transfer portal as well? Would he rather explore those options than return to UNH? Is he moving on to a real career post graduation?

Regardless, this move makes room for the potential addition of a younger recruit like Turner or Gagne.
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I predict transfer portal. What kind of pro offer might be out there for a smallish kid with half the talent of his older brother, who never quite got to 50 games in the AHL before heading overseas himself? Unless of course, Charlie and Tyler plan to team up in Sweden?? One or the other (of course, I'm only guessing), but it feels like someone may have reached out and undercut MS7, and sold Charlie on how using the transfer portal could work out to his benefit?
 
boblav1 said:
Mike McMahon @MikeMcMahonCHN
Per a source - as of this morning, there were 185 players in the transfer portal. Enough for approximately 9 full lineups. ... and 16 teams are still playing.
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Yes, I did see that tweet! My q was, can the portal and the 'occupants in it' be viewed by John Q public? Seems like some people know as they announce players as they enter...Chuck, I'm not sure what to really think about Charlie...I'm not feeling the portal for him but, I could be wrong. If he wanted to stay in college hockey I thought he was happy at the U. Speaks very highly of his time there etc. but, you make a good point...
 
No, the portal cannot be viewed publicly. However, names leak. In B-ball it’s become common place for lists to compile and update in almost real time - it’s less common in hockey, but few reporters, namely McMahon and Schlossman do try to dig up regular information...

Per those two, apparently 11 kids will transfer out of UVM...

The best goalie names and still available seems like Bowling Green’s Eric Dop. He’d have one year remaining. Cornell’s Matt Galjda was said to have entered the Portal, but he’s still with the Big Red and will have countless big time programs after him if he remains on the market...

There are some interesting names floating around, I’d a school like UVM could get 11 top portal guys they could vault themselves. But few elite difference makers who can change things with one signature...

There are offensive pieces that I think could see jumps in their production if they played top six minutes at a place like UNH.

Of note to some here, Bentley’s two top F’s are transferring.
 
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HockeyRef said:
Chuck, I'm not sure what to really think about Charlie...I'm not feeling the portal for him but, I could be wrong. If he wanted to stay in college hockey I thought he was happy at the U. Speaks very highly of his time there etc. but, you make a good point...
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You could probably have reached the same conclusion about BvR two years ago at this time.

Folks can leave a place in one of several ways ... go out with nice comments and appreciation (sincere or not), burn the place down (almost always sincere, not necessarily good though!), or say nothing (which seems to be Ty Taylor's approach). So CK left without burning any bridges, he was a captain after all (two years with a lettered jersey IIRC?), and I'm sure he still has friends on and off the ice at Durham. I'm not going to torch him here, unless he comes back through the portal and goes all BvR on us (which I'm sure he won't do).

But competitively, his time here has to have been disappointing. Older brother Ty at least got to the Garden (once?), CK really never got a sniff. If that's something that means something to him, catching on with a top tier program looking for a quality two-way forward to fill out a 3rd line for a year isn't such a bad gig, and he keeps living the dream a little bit longer.

Nothing wrong in any of that. Or going overseas, to play with Tyler (or without him).

I'm still not sure I'm liking the whole transfer portal thing, but I'd like it a whole lot better if MS7 figured out a way to make it work for his/our program. Until such time as he does, look for more unfulfilled upperclassmen looking for a final shot at amateur glory to be leaving here (BvR, CK), and a few talented kids who can't crack 3rd pairing/3rd or 4th line at deeper talented programs coming here for a year or two (Ward, Gildon - not technically, but kinda the same) so they can get some real PT, and just hoping they can get lucky competitively.

Yes, Felgie ... Walshy would be loving this. And he'd be working his nuts off every day to make it work for his program. Him and Grant would be working the phones daily, finding and wooing the hidden gems. Hopefully MS7 and his guys have been doing that and can use it to jumpstart a program that's shown very few signs of revitalization (yet) during his tenure ...
 
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Dan said:
No, the portal cannot be viewed publicly. However, names leak. In B-ball it’s become common place for lists to compile and update in almost real time - it’s less common in hockey, but few reporters, namely McMahon and Schlossman do try to dig up regular information...

Per those two, apparently 11 kids will transfer out of UVM...

The best goalie names and still available seems like Bowling Green’s Eric Dop. He’d have one year remaining. Cornell’s Matt Galjda was said to have entered the Portal, but he’s still with the Big Red and will have countless big time programs after him if he remains on the market...

There are some interesting names floating around, I’d a school like UVM could get 11 top portal guys they could vault themselves. But few elite difference makers who can change things with one signature...

There are offensive pieces that I think could see jumps in their production if they played top six minutes at a place like UNH.

Of note to some here, Bentley’s two top F’s are transferring.
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Interesting on "top two Bentley forwards." Jakov Novak was a junior this past season, Bentley's only NHL draft pick, with 87 games, 30 goals, 32 assists, so 62 points over 2.5 seasons. Luke Santerno was a senior this past year, with 123 games, 34 goals, 71 assists, so 105 points over 3.5 seasons. Matt Gosiewski was a sophomore this past season, with 51 games, 17 goals, 22 assists, so 39 points over 1.5 seasons.
 
UNH's biggest problem last year was 5X5 play. Of the 60 goals in 23 games, 19 were PP, 4 SH, so UNH only had 37 5X5 goals in 23 games, or 1.6 goals per game even strength.

To identify issues, and see where to improve, here are the players sorted by (+) being on ice, and ignoring the goals against while 5x5, these players contributed (or were at least on the ice) for UNH goals. Note the lack of RWs adding to the offense, which may indicate the dead spots (I mean, as a matter of logic, a RW has to be on the ice when UNH scores ;). Yet, it shows Grasso and Kelleher were non-factors in 5X5 play. [TABLE="class: Table, align: left"]
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[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"] [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"] [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"] [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: yellow"]GP[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: yellow"]+[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]+/-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Jackson Pierson[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]JR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]F[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: yellow"]23[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: yellow"]18[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]18[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]E[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Luke Reid[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]FR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]D[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]22[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]17[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]20[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Angus Crookshank [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]JR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]F[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]20[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]16[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]14[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: yellow"]+2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]William MacKinnon[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]JR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]D[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]22[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]16[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]15[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]+1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Filip Engarås[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]JR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]F[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]22[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]13[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]19[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Ryan Verrier[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]JR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]D[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: yellow"]23[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]13[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]15[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Kalle Eriksson[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]SO[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]D[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: yellow"]23[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]12[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: yellow"]24[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Benton Maass[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]SR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]D[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]20[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]11[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]20[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Kohei Sato[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]SR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]F[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]22[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]10[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]10[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]E[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Tyler Ward[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]JR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]F[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]21[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]10[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]14[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Eric MacAdams[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]SR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]F[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]16[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]9[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]8[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]+1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Cam Gendron[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]FR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]F[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]16[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]9[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]7[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: yellow"]+2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Patrick Grasso[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]SR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]F[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: yellow"]23[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]8[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]15[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Lucas Herrmann[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]SO[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]F[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]17[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]8[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]9[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Nikolai Jenson[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]FR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]D[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]20[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]6[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]7[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Nick Cafarelli[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]FR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]F[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]14[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]9[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Charlie Kelleher[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]SR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]F[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]13[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]8[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Alec Semandel[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]JR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]D[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]19[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]4[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]7[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Joe Hankinson[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]SO[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]F[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]13[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]4[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Eric Esposito[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]JR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]F[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]17[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]2[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]17[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-15[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Carsen Richels[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]FR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]F[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]22[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]2[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]14[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Joseph Cipollone[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]JR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]F[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]12[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]1[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]4[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Drew Hickey[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]JR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]D[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]6[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]1[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]+1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Chase Stevenson[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]SO[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]F[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]4[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]1[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]Joe Nagle[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]FR[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]D[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]7[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]4[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #fefefe"]-4[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Snively65 said:
Interesting on "top two Bentley forwards." Jakov Novak was a junior this past season, Bentley's only NHL draft pick, with 87 games, 30 goals, 32 assists, so 62 points over 2.5 seasons. Luke Santerno was a senior this past year, with 123 games, 34 goals, 71 assists, so 105 points over 3.5 seasons. Matt Gosiewski was a sophomore this past season, with 51 games, 17 goals, 22 assists, so 39 points over 1.5 seasons.
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Need a RW? Tyler Ward's former wingman in college, played with Angus Crookshank in juniors
https://www.eliteprospects.com/playe...62/ryan-barrow

As a Denver fan, Dan will probably have better input.
 
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Barrow is an interesting option, and a guy I’d love to see UNH pick up...

Over recent years, and particularly under Carle, Denver has played a defense first, heavily structured and balanced offensive game. Prior to this season, it would be hard to complain about the results but I do think it has stifled the offensive talents of a number of players who haven’t cracked the top line or the top PP...

Guys like Liam Finley, Kohen Olischefski, Brett Stapley, Brandon Budy, Tyler Ward and Ryan Barrow would have all been far more productive in a more offensive-centric attack like you’d find at St Cloud, UMass or UNH (Hello, UNH recruiters!)...

Barrow plays a lot like Ward. He skates hard and plays physical, forechecks, defends and gets to the dirty areas - he’s not a pure offensive talent, but he has enough to contribute and he did lead that Langley team in points by a wide margin despite playing with some pretty good teammates (age not withstanding)...

He could handle more offensive responsibility at UNH - certainly top six - and it would be interesting to see how he’d respond to playing with a playmaker like Pierson. He’d be fantastic on a line with Ward and Engaras - a tough, great skating match-up line with plenty of ability to chip in and Round out a top-six...

UNH could do worse, the only negative would be he’s a short term fix for a team in a long term rebuild (at best)...

—-

To piggy back off of Chucks ‘time of year’ post in the other thread, a tough day for the UNH does the best it can in recruiting crowd...

Five of the eight schools ‘scheduled’ to compete yesterday in the NCAA Tournament were some combination of non-blue blood/non-city/DII/smaller school/competes for prospects in the shadow of P5/historic programs. Yet somehow they managed to be relevant by making good coaching hires, belief and passing on the excuse making...

Four more of those ‘up against it schools’ will open their tournaments today.

That doesn’t include NoDak - yes, they’re a Blue Blood, but they’re one through sheer investment and belief. They want it, and demand it, despite competing in the direct shadow of Minn, ND, Wisc and Mich...

Oh, also - SCSU (200x100), Minn (200x100), UMass (200x97), Wisc (200x97) and Minn St (200x90)...
 
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Dan said:
Oh, also - SCSU (200x100), Minn (200x100), UMass (200x97), Wisc (200x97) and Minn St (200x90)...
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Ouch. The excuses just fall by the wayside.

Though Marty will read this as a call for a new capital improvement plan for his resume, to shorten the width by 3 feet. I can just see that in the opening paragraph of next year's web page: Led major capital improvement for UNH hockey.
 
Carmine Scarpaglia said:
Lots of national titles in that group on those ice surfaces.
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I'm not sure if you're being facetious, but both Minnesota and Wisconsin have five natty's each.* Unlikely that the size of the ice has anything to do with a team winning national title.

* I'm not counting St. Cloud, UMass and Minnesota State as they're relative "newbies" to the D-1 hockey power scene :-)
 
Scott said:
I'm not sure if you're being facetious, but both Minnesota and Wisconsin have five natty's each.* Unlikely that the size of the ice has anything to do with a team winning national title.

* I'm not counting St. Cloud, UMass and Minnesota State as they're relative "newbies" to the D-1 hockey power scene :-)
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Only 3 total since moving to the larger home ice surfaces, Scott. Wisconsin has one in 2006 since moving to Kohl Center. Minnesota has only back to back titles since moving to Mariucci. And they've been in those buildings a while now. To be fair, I didn't research whether they all came from regulation size rinks prior to moving so I'm making an assumption there - will gladly take info on that if I'm mistaken.

Just some food for thought.
 
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