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UML 2013/2014 Season ... The Target is firmly on

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Spoke with a Lowell season ticket holder who's a BU alum. He lives close to Lowell and loves college hockey, so while he definitely still supports BU, he does support Lowell as well (except when they're playing each other). He's been following BU since '74, and has never seen a BU team this bad. They still have talent, of course, but there's no heart seemingly. He's not even willing to give Quinn another year. I never thought I'd see Lowell play a game against BU and outshoot them 42-12 (and the 12 was partially due to a 5-minute major). Amazing.

Two straight games at home where Lowell absolutely dominated their opponent, but still having a really tough time finding the net. This really has to change soon, but I'm not sure when that will happen (it's not like Gillies is a sieve).

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE how this team is playing. I love some of the younger players, Chapie had a phenomenal weekend, AJ White's work during the major was beautiful. But we HAVE to find the back of the net more often.
 
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One thing that hasn't been mentioned here. Did you know that you can review for a penalty? I didn't. Also, after watching the replay, I'm still not sure that was really kneeing by Folin? And how was the spear by the BU player not a DQ? I thought that was automatic?
 
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UMLFan said:
One thing that hasn't been mentioned here. Did you know that you can review for a penalty? I didn't. Also, after watching the replay, I'm still not sure that was really kneeing by Folin? And how was the spear by the BU player not a DQ? I thought that was automatic?
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I'm confused about the replay and the spear too. It didn't appear a penalty was being called on Folin originally. I think they can use the review to get the correct player on a penalty call. It sure seemed like they made the call after reviewing the play. Hopefully Oksanen is ok. I thought Spearing was an automatic 1 game DQ.

Another replay item. On Friday night the Ref (Shea) blows the play dead as Lowell breaks out through center ice to review a post shot by Maine. Normally they wait until the next stoppage in play. Not a big deal but where's the consistancy by the officials?
 
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boblav1 said:
I'm confused about the replay and the spear too. It didn't appear a penalty was being called on Folin originally. I think they can use the review to get the correct player on a penalty call. It sure seemed like they made the call after reviewing the play. Hopefully Oksanen is ok. I thought Spearing was an automatic 1 game DQ.

Another replay item. On Friday night the Ref (Shea) blows the play dead as Lowell breaks out through center ice to review a post shot by Maine. Normally they wait until the next stoppage in play. Not a big deal but where's the consistancy by the officials?
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Yep, I noticed the stoppage on Friday night too. That was also a strange moment.
 
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I haven't seen Lowell yet this season, but have noticed over the past few seasons that Lowell has a tendency in transition to blast a slap shot from the blue line as they break into the offensive zone. I'm guessing either looking for a rebound or the goalie to tie up the puck for an O zone face off. When set-up in the O zone, they seem to run the offense from the d-men at the point, similar to a PP attack. This results in a lot of SOG but many being from the perimeter, and in Lowells case, seems to be by design. I'm not saying this is right, wrong or indifferent. Just that it appears to be Lowell's game plan, which apparently works for you as you have had some nice success.

Is this still the style or has Lowell become more of a cycling type team, creating a fair amount of grade A shots between the dots? Just curious. Thanks.
 
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UMLFan said:
Spoke with a Lowell season ticket holder who's a BU alum. He lives close to Lowell and loves college hockey, so while he definitely still supports BU, he does support Lowell as well (except when they're playing each other). He's been following BU since '74, and has never seen a BU team this bad. They still have talent, of course, but there's no heart seemingly. He's not even willing to give Quinn another year. I never thought I'd see Lowell play a game against BU and outshoot them 42-12 (and the 12 was partially due to a 5-minute major). Amazing.

Two straight games at home where Lowell absolutely dominated their opponent, but still having a really tough time finding the net. This really has to change soon, but I'm not sure when that will happen (it's not like Gillies is a sieve).

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE how this team is playing. I love some of the younger players, Chapie had a phenomenal weekend, AJ White's work during the major was beautiful. But we HAVE to find the back of the net more often.
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I must have said this a dozen times last night. It was like diluted BU.
boblav1 said:
I'm confused about the replay and the spear too. It didn't appear a penalty was being called on Folin originally. I think they can use the review to get the correct player on a penalty call. It sure seemed like they made the call after reviewing the play. Hopefully Oksanen is ok. I thought Spearing was an automatic 1 game DQ.

Another replay item. On Friday night the Ref (Shea) blows the play dead as Lowell breaks out through center ice to review a post shot by Maine. Normally they wait until the next stoppage in play. Not a big deal but where's the consistancy by the officials?
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I kind of feel sorry for BU. They just seem to have lost their spirit. Even the students, who normally are on their feet and conalstantly cheering, seemed downtrodden except for the goal they scored.

And with all of our shots, we need to get the back of the net. We had about 80 shots on goal this weekend and 4 go in? That is a red flag to me.
 
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CleggyofUML said:
I kind of feel sorry for BU. They just seem to have lost their spirit. Even the students, who normally are on their feet and conalstantly cheering, seemed downtrodden except for the goal they scored.

And with all of our shots, we need to get the back of the net. We had about 80 shots on goal this weekend and 4 go in? That is a red flag to me.
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one of which was an EN Goal
 
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CleggyofUML said:
I kind of feel sorry for BU. They just seem to have lost their spirit. Even the students, who normally are on their feet and conalstantly cheering, seemed downtrodden except for the goal they scored.

And with all of our shots, we need to get the back of the net. We had about 80 shots on goal this weekend and 4 go in? That is a red flag to me.
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I had a few friends in their student section, and they were told they were not allowed to stand during the game. It seemed weird when I walked over they had the two main ushers (red shirts instead of yellow) there to make sure they didn't cause any trouble.
 
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My take on some of the calls.

Folin: There was knee to knee contact, but I didn't see intent. However, there is no intent clause in the rule. We may have caught a break because in the interpretation section of the rule book, it says that an injury caused by a kneeing penalty must yield a game DQ to the offender. I wonder if it will be reviewed for potential supplemental discipline.

52.1 Kneeing - "A player shall not use the knee in such a manner as to foul an opponent. PENALTY—Minor, major, game misconduct or disqualification at the discretion of the referee."

The video review was curious but the wording of the rule listed below is even more so, along with being extremely vague. The unknown in this part is we don't know if Folin was called for a penalty before the review when the four refs got together or if it was called as a result of the replay. Note that the rules applies to all infractions; I had thought it was only reserved for majors. We may never know what actually happened.

93.2 Video Review: "To correctly identify individuals who participated in a fight or committed an infraction."

Kelley: Spearing at 20:00 minutes.

Spearing is an automatic major, but the ref has the option of a game misconduct or DQ and it of course added to the yearly tally. I don't think there is a specific "message-sending" rule that an automatic review is taken but I believe Lowell has the right to send a tape in for "supplemental discipline". In my mind, that's a rule that needs to be added; any game misconduct at 20:00 of the third or in overtime should bar the player for his next game.

I don't know what Shea was doing on Friday night. I would have looked at it too, but waited until the whistle.
 
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BTW, something I meant to bring up but forgot. Did anyone else see Sexton pretend to punch one of the Lowell players during the handshakes post-game, which caused the line to stop for a second. His own teammate grabbed him, and they continued on and he did the same thing to one of our assistant coaches (Lammers, I believe it was)? Again the line stopped, and at that point one of the linesmen came and pulled Sexton out. Not sure *** that was about?
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Went back to dig this up. I was reading the Colgate thread, and it seems at the end of the Clarkson/Brown game, Sexton got into a fight with a Brown player and both were given DQ's. Sexton (the captain) will miss the upcoming Colgate/Clarkson game.

Doesn't seem like a coincidence that he's been involved in more than one end-of-game scrum.
 
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UML Puck Hawk said:
I had a few friends in their student section, and they were told they were not allowed to stand during the game. It seemed weird when I walked over they had the two main ushers (red shirts instead of yellow) there to make sure they didn't cause any trouble.
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Bet that comes from when the NU fans stood and blocked the view of most of our section a few yrs ago. The ushers were lambasted because they didn't do anything and more than a few people complained afterwards.

Supposedly the linesman made a call but they aren't supposed to put their arm up if they see a penalty so he didn't. They were looking for a number in the video. There were a number of 'curious' calls, non-calls, delayed whistles (icing/off, sides, waiting to see if someone stood up...). Both ways. There were a couple of blatant things in front of the refs that could have sat us down. Nasty things. That crew is horrifyingly bad. As I said before, Lil's immediate comment when he say them was "Her-no-see". Followed by a loud groan. After watching I concur.
 
Patronick said:
Went back to dig this up. I was reading the Colgate thread, and it seems at the end of the Clarkson/Brown game, Sexton got into a fight with a Brown player and both were given DQ's. Sexton (the captain) will miss the upcoming Colgate/Clarkson game.

Doesn't seem like a coincidence that he's been involved in more than one end-of-game scrum.
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Sexton, a Bruins draft pick, also took a dumb slashing penalty after the whistle with his team trying to come back (goalie pulled) at the Catamount a Classic UVM game. Believe it was with 14 secs to go.
 
CleggyofUML said:
I kind of feel sorry for BU. They just seem to have lost their spirit. Even the students, who normally are on their feet and conalstantly cheering, seemed downtrodden except for the goal they scored.

And with all of our shots, we need to get the back of the net. We had about 80 shots on goal this weekend and 4 go in? That is a red flag to me.
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BU is BU. They will be a perennial top 10 team again soon. Lowell is enjoying a short period of success but they will never be a team that is a constant national threat like BU is.
 
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Onion Man said:
BU is BU. They will be a perennial top 10 team again soon. Lowell is enjoying a short period of success but they will never be a team that is a constant national threat like BU is.
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IMO the great dynasties in hockey are not as sure as before. So many of the storied programs are built on a coach having been there for > decade. These guys have to retire sometime. Jackie is what made BU a perennial threat. He was a great coach, had cache and was a proven commodity. Recruits didn't think twice when they considered BU. It was a great choice. It takes a long time to build that type of credibility. Unless something really drastic happens I think BU is going to be struggling for awhile. The proven commodity part is gone. Even in the last few yrs it seemed as if the glow had worn off a bit. The coach who came in wasn't a long time part of the system that just slid into the role after yrs of being 2nd in command even tho he was connected before. Growing pains will be there for awhile.

As to Lowell being a flash in the pan- everyone is entitled to their opinion. Personally I think things seem to be more even in D I than they used to be. A long way to go before everyone is the same caliber but more challenges consistantly to the 'big boys' then I remember 30 yrs ago. And certainly the 'Big' teams aren't always as challenging to play. After all who the hell ever heard of Quinnipiac and Yale being something to be worried about????
 
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sterlippo1 said:
are you serious? :rolleyes:
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I do. I found myself wishing they did something so it wouldn't be so embarrassing. Watching that was painful. BU isn't used to sustained adversity. They always snapped out of it after a short period of funk. Unlike those of us who rooted for the Sox and were used to yrs of broken hearts. :D
 
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