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UMass Lowell '12/'13 Season Thread
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Re: UMass Lowell '12/'13 Season Thread
Correction 5-0.
A tough afternoon for the Field Hockey team. They are down 4-0 in the second half to West Chester in the National Championship game.
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hawkeytown
"I mean, that thing is good"
Typical Lowell though, high expectations with no result... I mean, hey...at least that's the one consistent area for our program.
The only people I feel for at this point - fans, students/alumni and marketing team. That marketing team busts their tails to pack the house for these guys, only to have this Kaka of a performance. Frustration is an understatement.
To be honest, I am seeing no urgency anywhere... Including bazin.
leswp1
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Re: UMass Lowell '12/'13 Season Thread
I didn't say I thought they were playing well. They haven't found the chemistry they had last year. What ever system they are trying to work isn't working yet, that is for sure. Maybe I just can't view every game as if a puppy died if they lose. After watching for this many years I just am not that reactionary. If you are that distraught and think we suck so bad I really can't understand why you keep watching. SHort of last year you never seem to enjoy watching anything they do.
Re: UMass Lowell '12/'13 Season Thread
Call it like I see it. I'm not going to praise this team when they're playing awful hockey. I'm also not going to turn a blind eye and pretend they haven't puked all over themselves since the season started.
My question is why the hell are you watching? This isn't youth hockey. This isn't some bull**** "everybody gets a trophy" town league. This is Hockey East, and if you ever want this team to be anything other than a middle of the pack also-ran, at SOME point you have to raise your expectations. This was supposed to be a very good year for Lowell, so sorry I can't sit back and say "awww shucks, oh well maybe next year" and dance to Gangnam Style and throw a Chuk-A-Puck. Lowell has had very few years where they return a talented, experienced team and have the capability to compete. Thid team isn't competing. Thid team can't make a pass without staring down at their sticks like it's instructional hockey. Thid team has completely forgot how to forecheck. This team is was out-hustled to almost EVERY puck this weekend, and even in the awful years that's something I'd never say about a Lowell team.
I think the real problem is, after watching for this many years you're just used to Lowell being a mediocre hockey team, and it's ok with you. After the investment the school, the athletic office, the alumni and the students have put into this team, this result isn't close to acceptable.
As an aside, that contract extension seems a little premature now, doesn't it? I'm not saying fire the coach or anything ridiculous, I'm just saying it looked like a no-brainer last season, and now it looks like the AD jumped the gun.
Call it like I see it. I'm not going to praise this team when they're playing awful hockey. I'm also not going to turn a blind eye and pretend they haven't puked all over themselves since the season started.
My question is why the hell are you watching? This isn't youth hockey. This isn't some bull**** "everybody gets a trophy" town league. This is Hockey East, and if you ever want this team to be anything other than a middle of the pack also-ran, at SOME point you have to raise your expectations. This was supposed to be a very good year for Lowell, so sorry I can't sit back and say "awww shucks, oh well maybe next year" and dance to Gangnam Style and throw a Chuk-A-Puck. Lowell has had very few years where they return a talented, experienced team and have the capability to compete. Thid team isn't competing. Thid team can't make a pass without staring down at their sticks like it's instructional hockey. Thid team has completely forgot how to forecheck. This team is was out-hustled to almost EVERY puck this weekend, and even in the awful years that's something I'd never say about a Lowell team.
I think the real problem is, after watching for this many years you're just used to Lowell being a mediocre hockey team, and it's ok with you. After the investment the school, the athletic office, the alumni and the students have put into this team, this result isn't close to acceptable.
As an aside, that contract extension seems a little premature now, doesn't it? I'm not saying fire the coach or anything ridiculous, I'm just saying it looked like a no-brainer last season, and now it looks like the AD jumped the gun.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: UMass Lowell '12/'13 Season Thread
Yeah, I don't think anybody is saying that. I think there's a bit more of a wait and see to it. The elements are there... the execution is a serious problem. Maybe we have too many freshmen... playing too many freshmen. The players seem to take things for granted as well.
It is far too early to bury this team and I believe we should be working to where success is the norm and expected.... and this year its certainly expected. Others might be satisfied with mediocre... I say that those who are have never really wanted it.
Yeah, I don't think anybody is saying that. I think there's a bit more of a wait and see to it. The elements are there... the execution is a serious problem. Maybe we have too many freshmen... playing too many freshmen. The players seem to take things for granted as well.
It is far too early to bury this team and I believe we should be working to where success is the norm and expected.... and this year its certainly expected. Others might be satisfied with mediocre... I say that those who are have never really wanted it.
Pesky McGrath
Enjoying the ride
Re: UMass Lowell '12/'13 Season Thread
Bazin paraphrase famed UCLA basketball coach John Wooden saying, “publicity is a poison. If you swallow it, it will kill you.”
I hope that UNH accepts the cup of poison from us this weekend....
Bazin paraphrase famed UCLA basketball coach John Wooden saying, “publicity is a poison. If you swallow it, it will kill you.”
I hope that UNH accepts the cup of poison from us this weekend....
snipeshow10
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Re: UMass Lowell '12/'13 Season Thread
The whole team and coaching staff has been off this season. Guys who were key contributors this year have not had produced this season. They haven't looked sharp and everything just seems to be forced in both ends of the ice. However, I don't think Bazin has done a particularly great job running his bench either. He hasn't had Wilson or Wallin skate with the same players in consecutive games meanwhile he has been forcing freshman into spots that they don't need to be in. It's very easy to see that certain guys he is putting out there are not ready for the roles they are stepping into.
Guys got in a groove last year with their lines and that's when the offense took off, Norm hasn't really allowed that to happen. Bazin may be trying to catch lightning in a bottle with all these changes, but its easy to see that the whole team is pressing and with no stability guys are just trying to do too much to try and break out of a slump.
On a hopefully positive note, its 7 games into the season. There is plenty of time to right the ship. We've seen glimpses of what they can be (stretch in the 2nd period of Friday's Maine game). I really think/hope/wish it will take 1 weekend sweep and this team will gain some confidence. Hopefully that comes this weekend
The whole team and coaching staff has been off this season. Guys who were key contributors this year have not had produced this season. They haven't looked sharp and everything just seems to be forced in both ends of the ice. However, I don't think Bazin has done a particularly great job running his bench either. He hasn't had Wilson or Wallin skate with the same players in consecutive games meanwhile he has been forcing freshman into spots that they don't need to be in. It's very easy to see that certain guys he is putting out there are not ready for the roles they are stepping into.
Guys got in a groove last year with their lines and that's when the offense took off, Norm hasn't really allowed that to happen. Bazin may be trying to catch lightning in a bottle with all these changes, but its easy to see that the whole team is pressing and with no stability guys are just trying to do too much to try and break out of a slump.
On a hopefully positive note, its 7 games into the season. There is plenty of time to right the ship. We've seen glimpses of what they can be (stretch in the 2nd period of Friday's Maine game). I really think/hope/wish it will take 1 weekend sweep and this team will gain some confidence. Hopefully that comes this weekend
hockeyjunkie10
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Re: UMass Lowell '12/'13 Season Thread
I think all of you guys questioning Bazin's coaching decisions/bench management/contract extension need to settle down and give this thing some time. First he was a "mediocre hire" then he was the second coming and now he's worthless again all in the span of 18 months. In one year the guy brought your team from abysmal to the brink of the Frozen Four and now he has a freshmen-laden team struggling to find its sea legs one month into the season and you're pressing the panic button. If you get to year four or five of the Bazin-era and you're 5-25 you can call for his head but at this point give it time. The guy is a world class coach with a proven track record in recruiting and cultivating top level talent. Lowell is going to sort it out and they'll be good for many years to come...
I think all of you guys questioning Bazin's coaching decisions/bench management/contract extension need to settle down and give this thing some time. First he was a "mediocre hire" then he was the second coming and now he's worthless again all in the span of 18 months. In one year the guy brought your team from abysmal to the brink of the Frozen Four and now he has a freshmen-laden team struggling to find its sea legs one month into the season and you're pressing the panic button. If you get to year four or five of the Bazin-era and you're 5-25 you can call for his head but at this point give it time. The guy is a world class coach with a proven track record in recruiting and cultivating top level talent. Lowell is going to sort it out and they'll be good for many years to come...
leswp1
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Re: UMass Lowell '12/'13 Season Thread
Much more eloquently than what I posted. Absolutely agree with the sentiment.
bottomdweller
Where my dogsies at?
Re: UMass Lowell '12/'13 Season Thread
Here's the issue... this team hasn't shown any of the spark they had last year. That is cause for concern. The only benefit is that we are only 7 games into the season. However, like Tony said earlier, with only 6 games at the Tsongas after Christmas, they're digging themselves into a very deep hole early. This team is going to be hard pressed to meet the expectations most people had set for them, and at the moment, will have a hard time securing home ice for the HE playoffs. Now, unlike some people on here, while I love hockey and love rooting for this team, I am not going to live and die with every game. I'm too old to be the quintessential fan boy, so I'll be upset after a game, but I'll forget about it by the time I go home.
Here's the issue... this team hasn't shown any of the spark they had last year. That is cause for concern. The only benefit is that we are only 7 games into the season. However, like Tony said earlier, with only 6 games at the Tsongas after Christmas, they're digging themselves into a very deep hole early. This team is going to be hard pressed to meet the expectations most people had set for them, and at the moment, will have a hard time securing home ice for the HE playoffs. Now, unlike some people on here, while I love hockey and love rooting for this team, I am not going to live and die with every game. I'm too old to be the quintessential fan boy, so I'll be upset after a game, but I'll forget about it by the time I go home.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: UMass Lowell '12/'13 Season Thread
Eh, you're younger than me. I see this all as "what are we doing going forward"... I think there is potential brewing for a massive rotten egg but there's also potential for them to start clicking. it could be that we don't have enough "break out" talent to do what we want and so we're stuck. Is that a matter of we didn't (failure to execute) or couldn't (never had the resources to do so)?
The only thing that bothers me, and maybe that's the way in modern hockey, is the groupspeak amongst the players where it feels like they're all repeating the same set of lines. Maybe they've been conditioned into a single way of view from the youth levels on up... that is to say I'm not saying its Bazin... but to me it has never felt right.
Eh, you're younger than me. I see this all as "what are we doing going forward"... I think there is potential brewing for a massive rotten egg but there's also potential for them to start clicking. it could be that we don't have enough "break out" talent to do what we want and so we're stuck. Is that a matter of we didn't (failure to execute) or couldn't (never had the resources to do so)?
The only thing that bothers me, and maybe that's the way in modern hockey, is the groupspeak amongst the players where it feels like they're all repeating the same set of lines. Maybe they've been conditioned into a single way of view from the youth levels on up... that is to say I'm not saying its Bazin... but to me it has never felt right.
John_Fuller
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Re: UMass Lowell '12/'13 Season Thread
We have a team right now that can't make clean pass in any zone, a PK that absolutely abysmal and no offensive prowess whatsoever. Several forwards that were converting goals like no tomorrow last year (names aforementioned) have indeed been invisible so far this year. Now, I've heard of the phrase "sophomore slumps", but the start to this season has been incredulous.
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Hockey East To Date G W L T Pts Pct. GF GA GFPG GAPG d Goal
Lowell 2012-2013 5 1 3 1 3 0.300 9 13 1.80 2.60 -0.80
Lowell 2011-2012 5 3 2 0 6 0.600 21 17 4.20 3.40 0.80
Seasonal Change 0 -2 1 1 -3 -0.300 -12 -4 -2.40 -0.80 -1.60
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The surprising note that I take away is that the team scoring defense is down significantly compared to last year. Then again, scoring is also noticeably down in HE games so far this season when only three teams above three GFPG and four teams below two GFPG
I would have had no problem with this team if Lowell lost both games to BC and Denver, provided they won both games they've lost at home to Vermont and Maine. Seven goals allowed in three Hockey East games at home generally is going to provide good results. At the same time, six goals scored in those same amount of games is simply unacceptable with a team with this amount of talent. All three of these games should have been Lowell wins if they simply converted some glorious chances that were money in the bank last year.
Bob's right, it's time to move on from last year and focus at the task at hand. Now that the national attention is off of them in the national polls, I think it's fair to question where that are heading this year. Certainly, they will make the playoffs, but now I don't think it's a lock that we will be hosting the event unless we see an rapid influx of some much needed scoring.
How they come out against UNH will determine and tell volumes the future of this year's team. They will get another 6000K+ on Friday because it's UNH, but more importantly Lucic will be there signing autographs. Tony has a point though, Lowell has to starting winning these games <i>especially at home</i>if they want the students and public to continue to sit in the seats. I think that while's it still early in the season, Tony has another point that this team is under a yellow flag and there has to be at least two points coming from the River Hawks this weekend to see the flag stay the same or change color. Let's hope it's not to red.
We have a team right now that can't make clean pass in any zone, a PK that absolutely abysmal and no offensive prowess whatsoever. Several forwards that were converting goals like no tomorrow last year (names aforementioned) have indeed been invisible so far this year. Now, I've heard of the phrase "sophomore slumps", but the start to this season has been incredulous.
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Hockey East To Date G W L T Pts Pct. GF GA GFPG GAPG d Goal
Lowell 2012-2013 5 1 3 1 3 0.300 9 13 1.80 2.60 -0.80
Lowell 2011-2012 5 3 2 0 6 0.600 21 17 4.20 3.40 0.80
Seasonal Change 0 -2 1 1 -3 -0.300 -12 -4 -2.40 -0.80 -1.60
</code>
The surprising note that I take away is that the team scoring defense is down significantly compared to last year. Then again, scoring is also noticeably down in HE games so far this season when only three teams above three GFPG and four teams below two GFPG
I would have had no problem with this team if Lowell lost both games to BC and Denver, provided they won both games they've lost at home to Vermont and Maine. Seven goals allowed in three Hockey East games at home generally is going to provide good results. At the same time, six goals scored in those same amount of games is simply unacceptable with a team with this amount of talent. All three of these games should have been Lowell wins if they simply converted some glorious chances that were money in the bank last year.
Bob's right, it's time to move on from last year and focus at the task at hand. Now that the national attention is off of them in the national polls, I think it's fair to question where that are heading this year. Certainly, they will make the playoffs, but now I don't think it's a lock that we will be hosting the event unless we see an rapid influx of some much needed scoring.
How they come out against UNH will determine and tell volumes the future of this year's team. They will get another 6000K+ on Friday because it's UNH, but more importantly Lucic will be there signing autographs. Tony has a point though, Lowell has to starting winning these games <i>especially at home</i>if they want the students and public to continue to sit in the seats. I think that while's it still early in the season, Tony has another point that this team is under a yellow flag and there has to be at least two points coming from the River Hawks this weekend to see the flag stay the same or change color. Let's hope it's not to red.
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ClOuD 9
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Re: UMass Lowell '12/'13 Season Thread
Thought I'd cross post this over here, Seacoast Deals & Viva Manch Vegas are running a deal with 4 tickets for $30 for UNH @ Lowell (4 tickets for the price of 2)
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Thought I'd cross post this over here, Seacoast Deals & Viva Manch Vegas are running a deal with 4 tickets for $30 for UNH @ Lowell (4 tickets for the price of 2)
http://vivamanchvegasdeals.com/products.cfm?cid=148 (87 left)
http://www.seacoastdeals.com/business.cfm?id=14087&pid=1622 (54 left)
Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
Re: UMass Lowell '12/'13 Season Thread
Everyone formed a search party and went out looking for that UML kid that's better than Gaudreau. No wonder no one can find him!!
Everyone formed a search party and went out looking for that UML kid that's better than Gaudreau. No wonder no one can find him!!
JB
Desk Chair Coach
Re: UMass Lowell '12/'13 Season Thread
UNH this year is playing fantastic on the back end. Only 6 goals against in the last 6 games, only 2 in the last 4. Some of that has been helped by back to back shutouts of Maine (1.67 gpg) and Vermont (1.5 gpg) But the other 4 games in this run where against BU, NU and UMA middle of the pack in scoring.
I put it on the UNH thread that the last shutout, against UVM, is the easiest I have ever seen for a goalie, the D played that well in front of him. I don't think UNH can sustain 3 shutouts out of 4 games or even 1 gaa for a full year, just not realistic, but the strength of UNH this year is the back end so they better keep the opponent scoring down.
My only point is this year UNH team might not be a good fit for a team fighting to score goals.
UNH this year is playing fantastic on the back end. Only 6 goals against in the last 6 games, only 2 in the last 4. Some of that has been helped by back to back shutouts of Maine (1.67 gpg) and Vermont (1.5 gpg) But the other 4 games in this run where against BU, NU and UMA middle of the pack in scoring.
I put it on the UNH thread that the last shutout, against UVM, is the easiest I have ever seen for a goalie, the D played that well in front of him. I don't think UNH can sustain 3 shutouts out of 4 games or even 1 gaa for a full year, just not realistic, but the strength of UNH this year is the back end so they better keep the opponent scoring down.
My only point is this year UNH team might not be a good fit for a team fighting to score goals.
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