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UMaine Hockey 23 - 24: The Barr Crawl to Glory!!!
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umhockey91
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1-9 in their last 10 vs. BU.....BU 0-7 vs. Maine in HE Semis.....something's gotta give.
Sparkee
Blackbear
Probably the more applicable stat is Maine is 0-2 this season vs. BU. On their ice, however. Never the less, they showed a match up issue since they had a lot of heavy forwards that play near the net and one the boards down low real well. Lachance gave them fits. At this point, Maine is the under dog, but the way they played last night could beat BU. But that is Maine’s best game this season, I think.
I’m just going to the games and going to enjoy the experience. Got the tickets all lined up. Just having them qualify for both HE semis and NCAA playoffs is the goal and the rest is a bonus. Because we haven’t gotten to that level yet where we could be a powerhouse like the old days and expect to be in the playoffs every year and frozen fours every couple/few years. Nice to just see them have this much success after such a long drought during the Red years.
umhockey91
Well-known member
The Garden seats going on sale will be similar nose bleed seats as the ones that remain. If someone is worried about getting seats.....go to Ticketmaster and buy them right now. I predict a sellout by Tuesday morning.
Sparkee
Blackbear
Lower bowl is gone. Balcony on corners and end remain.
Sparkee
Blackbear
The ncaa regionals are also going fast it seems. Starting to get to the point where only half of the ends in lower bowl in Providence. And no lower bowl tickets in Springfield. This is picking three tickets together when I was doing it. I guess might as well buy tickets to both places then sell tickets for which ever one don’t go to. I think Worcester is Thursday, so I might take days off and try to watch both regionals. Not sure if that is doable.
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
This looks like a fun, harmless discussion I can add to, as I'm about the same age as you guys then. My first front-to-end Super Bowl watched was SB IV a year later, when the Chiefs upset the Vikings. First, background ...
My Dad was a Lombardi/Packers fan during the '60's (fortuitous timing, eh?), and Unitas came to fame in the late '50's when his Colts teams beat the NY Giants twice in a row in the NFL Championship Game (pre-AFL predecessor to the Super Bowl) in '58 and '59. Starr stepped up after that and dominated the '60's once Lombardi was established in GB, with six (6) trips to the title game in eight years ('60-'61-'62 and '65-'66-'67), and winning all but the '60 game to Philly, when Jim Taylor was tackled by Chuck Bednarik inside the 10 yard line as time expired (it turned out to be the only NFL postseason game Lombardi lost). GB just missed a two-team postseason in '63 (Hornung gambling scandal) and '64, and in modern days they would have easily qualified as a wild card. Baltimore missed the playoffs most of those years, despite some very good seasons, since they and GB were in the same division. You literally had to win your division to make the one game postseason back then.
Back then, both pre-AFL and during the pre-merger AFL, the NFL's national network was CBS (the AFL was mostly NBC), and for many years, CBS would telecast NY Giants' games into all of New England as their "home territory". And even after the Boston Patriots were born in 1960, they were mostly dog food for the pre-merger AFL years - only Denver was clearly worse. So it took a long (long) time in many areas for the local allegiances to shift from being Giants' fans to Patriots' fans (FWIW I'm a Giants fan dating back to '69 since they were on TV every week). The then-Washington Redskins had a similar territorial arrangement with the Southern states, until NFL expanded into Atlanta (1966) and New Orleans (1967), and the AFL moved into Miami (1967?). But there was a sizeable amount of New England pro football fans who did not ascribe to adopting the hated New York team(s) as their "home" teams - as an aside, the Patriots rarely sold out wherever their home stadium was at the time, be it BU or Fenway or BC or Harvard - so even the Jets were a 2nd choice "home" team when the Patriots' home games were invariably blacked out from local telecast. My Dad was one of those resisters - and perhaps yours was as well, Fishy? Johnny U would have held strong favor among those folks for the Colts beating the Giants in '58 and '59, just as my Dad worshipped Lombardi for thrashing the Giants in '61 and '62 for his first of five titles that decade. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend", about two generations ago. Ironically, St. Vincent of Lombardi (I'm still a Giants fan, but a dedicated convert to the Church of Lombardi) was one of the loudest, most obnoxious New Yorkers of his time!
With the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes about to tee up a season where they will seek to become the first team to ever win three Super Bowls in a row, you guys may be hearing about the "first ever" thing without questioning it. Lombardi's GB Packers won 3 straight NFL titles in '65-'66-'67 which was treated as a heroic triumph at the time. There was no Super Bowl after the '65 season, but if there were one, you'd absolutely have to suspend disbelief to think the '65 Buffalo Bills would have put a serious paw on the Packers - not after how the older Packers' teams throttled better Chiefs and Raiders teams in the first two SB's. It was also the reason why the Jets beating the 13-1 Colts in Super Bowl 3 was such a shocking upset. And if Johnny U wasn't injured for SB3, there's a very good chance your Baltimore Colts would have continued the dominance.
To modernize this for folks younger than us, probably the best comparison I can offer for Unitas is that he was "Payton Manning" to Bart Starr's "Tom Brady" 40 or so years apart. Despite all of Starr's postseason success, I think Unitas was universally heralded as the greatest QB in NFL history, at least until Joe Montana dominated the '80's. Your dad had excellent taste in NFL QB's, Fishy, and there was plenty of reason for him to do so.
ticapnews
Never Forget!
The semifinals are the #4 trending event in Boston on Stubhub, behind only the NCAA hoops tournament and a Celtics game. Ahead of the Olivia Rodrigo concerts, the Rolling Stones at Gillette and all Bruins games.
Meanwhile, the women's hoops team is indeed going to Columbus to play 2 seed Ohio State.
ticapnews
Never Forget!
It's confirmed. If Denver loses the LTHC semifinal to St Cloud and Michigan State loses to BTHC Championship to Michigan AND Maine wins Hockey East Maine becomes the fourth #1 seed and goes west. Maine can actually rise the overall 3 seed if both Denver and North Dakota lose on Friday night and the Wolverines win the BTHC. However, Maine cannot pass Boston College or Boston University and will go west.
Still working on other scenarios.
Still working on other scenarios.
Sparkee
Blackbear
This must be a very low percentage chance of happening. In other words, it is a scenario that is statistically an outlier.
ticapnews
Never Forget!
There is almost no chance. But I wanted to see if it was possible. And it is.
What I think happens:
- CCHA Championship: Bemidji State def. Michigan Tech
- ECAC Semifinal #1: Quinnipiac def. St. Lawrence
- ECAC Semifinal #2: Cornell def. Dartmouth
- ECAC Championship: Quinnipiac def. Cornell
- Hockey East Semifinal #1: Boston College def. Massachusetts
- Hockey East Semifinal #2: Boston University def. Maine
- Hockey East Championship: Boston University def. Boston College
- Atlantic Hockey Championship: RIT def. American Int'l
- Big Ten Championship: Michigan def. Michigan State
- NCHC Semifinal #1: North Dakota def. Omaha
- NCHC Semifinal #2: Denver def. St. Cloud State
- NCHC Championship: North Dakota def. Denver
Sparkee
Blackbear
What would happen if the favorites just win? You have BU over BC, and MSU over Michigan, etc…If favorites just win does Maine also go to Springfield? I’m wondering if it is highly likely they go to Springfield? Or is it nearly as likely they end up in Providence?
ticapnews
Never Forget!
If all higher seeds win: [TABLE="border: 0, cellspacing: 0"]
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[TD="width: 86"]Missouri[/TD]
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[TD="width: 86"]Providence[/TD]
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[TD="width: 86"]Sioux Falls[/TD]
[TD="width: 86"]UNO[/TD]
[TD="width: 86"]Springfield[/TD]
[TD="width: 86"]UMASS[/TD]
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[TD]Boston U[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]Boston C[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]North Dakota[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]Mich State[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Denver[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]Maine[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]Minnesota[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]Quinnipiac[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Wisconsin[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]Michigan[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Omaha[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]West Mich[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Colorado Col[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Bemidji[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]RIT[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]UMASS[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]34[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]37[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]35[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
BU gets totally screwed. (Break out the violins)
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Welcome to the US of A, that’s pretty common around here. half of the fans at Alfond look like that.
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
All in all, I've pretty much left this alone for awhile now, although I admittedly did give Fortier a pile of grief about it initially. I thought at the time (and still do FWIW) that it's an odd selection to have a middle-aged guy in his condition working as somewhat of a role model for some of the best conditioned athletes in the world of D-1 sports, as hockey players in general tend to be. It can't help that now as an assistant coach, presumably with a heavy emphasis on recruiting-related travel, he's probably not making any progress with a regular schedule to cut into the problem. And as wally points out, it's not like this is an unusual condition or situation these days. One needs look no further than the opposite bench this past weekend to see UNH assistant Glenn Stewart looking fairly hefty, and MS7 himself carrying around a middle-age paunch, too.
A generation ago, in a 9 team Hockey East, all of the coaches (despite being middle aged or older) looked fit and trim, so maybe that snuck up on me a little bit? Lord knows some of those guys had other health risk issues despite looking outwardly fit (Umile almost croaked in the mid-'90's from his death pins habit, forcing him to quit; pretty sure Parker was in the same boat?), and even before that, as a kid working summer grounds jobs down at Northeastern with some of their D-1 hockey guys, I was stunned at the amount of smoking they did, although they were not lacking in local NHL role models at the time (Derek Sanderson and Gerry Cheevers, to name only two of several more "Big Bad B's" with the habit). Even the '70's Celts had their share, and that was a team that stressed conditioning and heavy reliance on getting out fast and running the opposition out of the building.
Anyway, figured I'd touch lightly on this since it came up again. Enjoy the postseason, and cheers from the 9th tee! ;-)
Darius
Go 'cats!
Still is by at least one starry eyed child of the day.To modernize this for folks younger than us, probably the best comparison I can offer for Unitas is that he was "Payton Manning" to Bart Starr's "Tom Brady" 40 or so years apart. Despite all of Starr's postseason success, I think Unitas was universally heralded as the greatest QB in NFL history, at least until Joe Montana dominated the '80's. Your dad had excellent taste in NFL QB's, Fishy, and there was plenty of reason for him to do so.
In 1995 I happened to be walking through a residential Baltimore neighborhood when I stumbled upon Memorial Stadium. I walked around the entire structure, tried opening every locked door and chained gate, made a bit of noise hoping someone inside might hear me. No dice. I never entered the hallowed ground which was demolished six years later.
Was a Colts fan then also, not anymore when they left via the Mayflower...but the Jets were ready and the Colts that day thought they could cruise over them. ......
umhockey91
Well-known member
All HE tickets at Ticketmaster are gone. Stub Hub/scalpers now....
grooverider
Your Team Sucks
Yep, huge waits this morning as well to get on the site. They did release some sections for Maine fans in an email as well as discounted rates at the Royal Sonesta in Boston
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