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UMaine Black Bears, 2017-2018, reds last stand part 2
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Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2017-2018, reds last stand part 2
The way they played with the lead from about the 4:30 mark to the tying goal was horrific in my opinion. If they play like that with a lead against a competitive team they probably end up losing in regulation.
The way they played with the lead from about the 4:30 mark to the tying goal was horrific in my opinion. If they play like that with a lead against a competitive team they probably end up losing in regulation.
Merrimack was chasing the game and it makes sense they would get more shots on net.
Again tonight Maine scores all their goals in transition. Fans might not like it but Maine is successful when the other team has most of the possession.
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Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2017-2018, reds last stand part 2
Maine outplayed for long stretches by the last place team in HE at home, unacceptable.... Come on Coach, light a fire!
Maine outplayed for long stretches by the last place team in HE at home, unacceptable.... Come on Coach, light a fire!
Fishman'81
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Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2017-2018, reds last stand part 2
Yeah, you could say that for sure.
Maine took the entire 3rd off, trying to sit on a slim lead, and they're not good enough to do that against anyone... Furthermore, that appeared to be a coaching decision, as if Red had a plan. If he does, I haven't really seen it.
Maine got away with one tonight, plain and simple. That penalty shot that Robbins scored on (a pretty goal, BTW) was a huge gift. It wasn't even a penalty, let alone a penalty shot.
Red has his D waaaaay too low on the PK, too. 'Mack had free reign below the dots far too often.
There's some depth on this team, but the coaching staff needs to get a GD clue on special teams. Clearly, what they're doing now in that regard is spectacularly unsuccessful.
Sway lost an edge once, but he's bailed this team out time and time again. He's consistent.
Anyway, win tomorrow, and regroup. Figure something out, Red!
Yeah, you could say that for sure.
Maine took the entire 3rd off, trying to sit on a slim lead, and they're not good enough to do that against anyone... Furthermore, that appeared to be a coaching decision, as if Red had a plan. If he does, I haven't really seen it.
Maine got away with one tonight, plain and simple. That penalty shot that Robbins scored on (a pretty goal, BTW) was a huge gift. It wasn't even a penalty, let alone a penalty shot.
Red has his D waaaaay too low on the PK, too. 'Mack had free reign below the dots far too often.
There's some depth on this team, but the coaching staff needs to get a GD clue on special teams. Clearly, what they're doing now in that regard is spectacularly unsuccessful.
Sway lost an edge once, but he's bailed this team out time and time again. He's consistent.
Anyway, win tomorrow, and regroup. Figure something out, Red!
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2017-2018, reds last stand part 2
Drew, God knows I love you, but it's fairly nuts to that say that it's a good thing to have less zone-time than your opponent. That very rarely works. Maine has an OK record doing that half the time, but they have played a lousy SOS, and they can't rely on puck-luck forever.
The talent is decent, but the coaching is sub-decent. Maine was a bit lucky tonight, no doubt about that. I'd like to see Red develop some sort of a plan, already.
Drew, God knows I love you, but it's fairly nuts to that say that it's a good thing to have less zone-time than your opponent. That very rarely works. Maine has an OK record doing that half the time, but they have played a lousy SOS, and they can't rely on puck-luck forever.
The talent is decent, but the coaching is sub-decent. Maine was a bit lucky tonight, no doubt about that. I'd like to see Red develop some sort of a plan, already.
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walrus
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Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2017-2018, reds last stand part 2
They make the same undisciplined mistakes game in and game out. That's coaching. How do take a penalty in neutral zone when the puck is 200 ft from the net? How do you get another too many men call. How do you get penalties in offensive zone every freaking game. They won, I'm glad, Red has to figure this out. I doubt he can
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They make the same undisciplined mistakes game in and game out. That's coaching. How do take a penalty in neutral zone when the puck is 200 ft from the net? How do you get another too many men call. How do you get penalties in offensive zone every freaking game. They won, I'm glad, Red has to figure this out. I doubt he can
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Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2017-2018, reds last stand part 2
If Maine loses you guy ***** if they win you guys ***** , bet if they won a hockey east title you guys would ***** if a national title you guys would find something to ***** about . Can't you guys just be fans of the Black Bears . Maybe Umaine should have you guys (fishman81 and Walrus) coach the hockey team. Then the wins would pileup.
If Maine loses you guy ***** if they win you guys ***** , bet if they won a hockey east title you guys would ***** if a national title you guys would find something to ***** about . Can't you guys just be fans of the Black Bears . Maybe Umaine should have you guys (fishman81 and Walrus) coach the hockey team. Then the wins would pileup.
umhockey91
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Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2017-2018, reds last stand part 2
Despite all of the hand wringing Maine can take sole possession of 4th place tonight with a win. Last night's score board indicates that every other team in HE is in the same boat....mediocre and losing or tying teams that they shouldn't. This all comes down to who gets hot and wants it the most down the stretch. Also who has the big time goaltender that can carry their team. I like Maine's chances.
P.S. - Maine up to #19 in the PWR.
Despite all of the hand wringing Maine can take sole possession of 4th place tonight with a win. Last night's score board indicates that every other team in HE is in the same boat....mediocre and losing or tying teams that they shouldn't. This all comes down to who gets hot and wants it the most down the stretch. Also who has the big time goaltender that can carry their team. I like Maine's chances.
P.S. - Maine up to #19 in the PWR.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2017-2018, reds last stand part 2
Do you think Red mentions some of these penalties when they watch film. ? Do think the lineup will be the same tonight?
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DonIf Maine loses you guy ***** if they win you guys ***** , bet if they won a hockey east title you guys would ***** if a national title you guys would find something to ***** about . Can't you guys just be fans of the Black Bears . Maybe Umaine should have you guys (fishman81 and Walrus) coach the hockey team. Then the wins would pileup.
Do you think Red mentions some of these penalties when they watch film. ? Do think the lineup will be the same tonight?
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Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2017-2018, reds last stand part 2
On a positive note, Maine has lost only 2 of their last 17 games and haven't lost in last 6 games.
Also, the shots attempted were even as I recall looking at live stats last night end of game. Merrimack had blocked 10 more shots, I believe.
This Merrimack team doesn't seem as bad as their last place position. They beat Denver.
I thought Robbins had two shot handed goals. Evidently if ou score on penalty shot while shorthanded it isn't counted as a short handed goal for stat purposes.
On a positive note, Maine has lost only 2 of their last 17 games and haven't lost in last 6 games.
Also, the shots attempted were even as I recall looking at live stats last night end of game. Merrimack had blocked 10 more shots, I believe.
This Merrimack team doesn't seem as bad as their last place position. They beat Denver.
I thought Robbins had two shot handed goals. Evidently if ou score on penalty shot while shorthanded it isn't counted as a short handed goal for stat purposes.
ticapnews
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Maine attempted more shots 58-54 but Merrimack blocked 16.
#MC 3 - 4 #Maine FINAL #HockeyEast
Robbins (8) Doherty, Westerlund 18:32
Biega (5) Tibbet, Seney 1:08
Robbins (9) PS (SHG) 2:32
Seney (10) (pp2) Kolquist, Henning 4:09
Robbins (10) (SHG) Pearson 16:52
Larson (9) (EAG) Biega, Henning 18:31
Holway (7) (GWG) Vesey, Binner :20
Shots: 39-28 MC
Faceoffs: 28-26 UM
Attempts: 58-54 UM
Blocks: 16-6 MC
PP: Maine: 0/3 Merrimack 1/5
Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2017-2018, reds last stand part 2
I'm not claiming Maine should just let the other team have the puck in their end, it just seems its what has been effective this year. Its honestly very perplexing for me why this has been what has worked. Along with that I have no clue why Maine can't score more goals when they have possession in the other team's end. You would think that with a big team they would have an advantage when they get things setup, but it just hasn't worked very often. When they have scored goals after getting setup it seems that quite a few have come from dmen.
I'm not claiming Maine should just let the other team have the puck in their end, it just seems its what has been effective this year. Its honestly very perplexing for me why this has been what has worked. Along with that I have no clue why Maine can't score more goals when they have possession in the other team's end. You would think that with a big team they would have an advantage when they get things setup, but it just hasn't worked very often. When they have scored goals after getting setup it seems that quite a few have come from dmen.
Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2017-2018, reds last stand part 2
I agree Swayman appeared to stuggle at times and didn't look as confident as he normally does.
Robbins goals listed as EV-PS-PP.
I agree Swayman appeared to stuggle at times and didn't look as confident as he normally does.
Robbins goals listed as EV-PS-PP.
I think this is accurate, but it’s also perplexing. The team’s offense really does seem to live and die by the odd man rush and in transition.
It wasn’t his best showing (see: the goal Merrimack scored when he fell down) but he made some huge saves to give them a chance and maintain the lead. Also made a great play on the Merrimack breakaway when he came out of the net and rushed the puck.
Outside of the goal Merrimack scored when he fell down, it’s hard to fault him for the other two. One goal was on a Merrimack power play (one of many last night) and the other was the 6 on 5.
Three goals on 39 shots isn’t a horrible performance. If McGovern is in net with that defense in front of him, Maine would be playing for a split tonight. That was my point.
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2017-2018, reds last stand part 2
0.923 save % for the night, even with the flukey slip-goal. Not too shabby.
0.923 save % for the night, even with the flukey slip-goal. Not too shabby.
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2017-2018, reds last stand part 2
I applied. Never heard back. (Maybe I should have listed you as reference...)
If Maine loses you guy ***** if they win you guys ***** , bet if they won a hockey east title you guys would ***** if a national title you guys would find something to ***** about . Can't you guys just be fans of the Black Bears . Maybe Umaine should have you guys (fishman81 and Walrus) coach the hockey team. Then the wins would pileup.
I applied. Never heard back. (Maybe I should have listed you as reference...)
Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2017-2018, reds last stand part 2
You mean get the puck low, establish in the zone, get pucks to the point, set screen, look to tip the puck on a shot from point, drive to the net for rebounds.
I think that is a great way to score goals... even better if they win a game in OT that way.
The stat on the screen last night had Maine at 10th in the country for goals for. I am not worried or disappointed in the offense or the style in which they score.
Tighter defense around the goalie and more discipline to limit penalty kills needed are the things I'd like to see improved.
I though VMT played well last night. I liked how he moved the puck. I like him at center point on that power play unit. Almost paid off with that Doherty one timer.
Should be another fun one tonight. GO BLUE!!!!
You mean get the puck low, establish in the zone, get pucks to the point, set screen, look to tip the puck on a shot from point, drive to the net for rebounds.
I think that is a great way to score goals... even better if they win a game in OT that way.
The stat on the screen last night had Maine at 10th in the country for goals for. I am not worried or disappointed in the offense or the style in which they score.
Tighter defense around the goalie and more discipline to limit penalty kills needed are the things I'd like to see improved.
I though VMT played well last night. I liked how he moved the puck. I like him at center point on that power play unit. Almost paid off with that Doherty one timer.
Should be another fun one tonight. GO BLUE!!!!
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