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UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

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Fishman'81 said:
Blackie, Drew, BobF...

While I appreciate your loyalty, Maine is clearly going nowhere fast these days; they're still where they've been for all of Red's 5 years of futility, adjusting for the weak schedule this season.

It's very obvious that he's not the guy for the job, and perhaps the program is too far gone to resurrect it anytime soon... But let's call a spade a spade here, just the same.
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"While I appreciate your loyalty" ... Well you must be king ****.
 
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BlackI said:
"While I appreciate your loyalty" ... Well you must be king ****.
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Blacki
Not sure what you are saying, first you say team is headed in right direction then you bring up last 10 games record.
I see better talent especially in most important position, goalie, this team looks like last year and the year before that and so on. Yeah they scored goals, the D is still the same.
Red is going to get extended unless he quits or retires.
I don't see how Maine can change coaches at this point.

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walrus said:
Blacki
Not sure what you are saying, first you say team is headed in right direction then you bring up last 10 games record.
I see better talent especially in most important position, goalie, this team looks like last year and the year before that and so on. Yeah they scored goals, the D is still the same.
Red is going to get extended unless he quits or retires.
I don't see how Maine can change coaches at this point.

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I don't see how you can't see what I am saying. Go be 4th in conference and twentieth in polls, then do about as bad as you can after. Progress, I guess so. Only cause Maine was so bad before. But happy about it, not me.

Talent is better than you give credit, you know that. Swayman, Keeper, Tralmaks are all top rookies in hockey east. Can't use excuse anymore Maine doesn't get talent.

Maine won't change coaches. But the bench coaching has to get better in my opinion.
 
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You cant give any weight to the standings in January. They were 4th before they played the 3 real teams in the league and they got their doors blown off. They were never actually the 4th best team in the league they just happenee to have Northeastern BC and a PC game at the end
 
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BlackI said:
I don't see how you can't see what I am saying. Go be 4th in conference and twentieth in polls, then do about as bad as you can after. Progress, I guess so. Only cause Maine was so bad before. But happy about it, not me.

Talent is better than you give credit, you know that. Swayman, Keeper, Tralmaks are all top rookies in hockey east. Can't use excuse anymore Maine doesn't get talent.

Maine won't change coaches. But the bench coaching has to get better in my opinion.
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In 5 years do you think bench coaching has gotten better.???

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BoSox3066 said:
You cant give any weight to the standings in January. They were 4th before they played the 3 real teams in the league and they got their doors blown off. They were never actually the 4th best team in the league they just happenee to have Northeastern BC and a PC game at the end
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Maine basically beat the teams worse than them and lost to the teams who were better. I’m not quite sure how that is bad coaching. One thing to note is that they only played one of the nine games against the top three hockey east teams at home.
 
Drew S. said:
Maine basically beat the teams worse than them and lost to the teams who were better. I’m not quite sure how that is bad coaching. One thing to note is that they only played one of the nine games against the top three hockey east teams at home.
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Which, to be fair, was probably the worst game of the entire season.
 
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Drew S. said:
Maine basically beat the teams worse than them and lost to the teams who were better. I’m not quite sure how that is bad coaching. One thing to note is that they only played one of the nine games against the top three hockey east teams at home.
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Yeah and they played better on the road which was an improvement over past years.
Maybe I expect too much, they showed me a little and I want a lot as a result. They aren't better than PC but they could have won a game there. I

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walrus said:
.........They aren't better than PC but they could have won a game there...
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I agree. They didn't win a game because of the lack of discipline. Penalties worked against them in many games all year long. It's possible to place some of that blame on bench coaching. It was almost like he didn't care or didn't think it was a problem.
 
Drew S. said:
Maine basically beat the teams worse than them and lost to the teams who were better. I’m not quite sure how that is bad coaching. One thing to note is that they only played one of the nine games against the top three hockey east teams at home.
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You dont think having a zillion too many men penalties, leading Hockey East in penalty mins, having the 5th most in the country and indeed averaging an ENTIRE PERIOD per game in the box is indicitative of a coaching issue?!?

(With a PK that was 53rd in the country by the way)
 
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BoSox3066 said:
You dont think having a zillion too many men penalties, leading Hockey East in penalty mins, having the 5th most in the country and indeed averaging an ENTIRE PERIOD per game in the box is indicitative of a coaching issue?!?

(With a PK that was 53rd in the country by the way)
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I agree, I think the penalties and horrible PK were the biggest reasons Maine was only able to finish 6th in HE and 20-something in the pairwise. A team can't win games against other good teams and give up that much of an advantage. Keeper had 88 minutes of penalty minutes alone (the most in all of hockey east). I thought he might catch Diamond and Ryan for a while...

I think they could improve a bunch just by eliminating the stupid after the whistle penalties and the too many men on the ice stuff. Sounds easy right?

And yea, that is a coaching issue.

edit: just noticed Diamond "only" had 73 penalty minutes his freshman year... just sayin'
 
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dogtagger said:
I agree, I think the penalties and horrible PK were the biggest reasons Maine was only able to finish 6th in HE and 20-something in the pairwise. A team can't win games to other good teams giving that much of an advantage to their opponents. Keeper had 88 minutes of penalty minutes alone. I thought he might catch Diamond and Ryan for a while...

And yea, that is a coaching issue.
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To be fair to Brady, about a quarter of those came from the same game, at Northeastern when he picked up a misconduct and game misconduct for slamming his stick down and slamming the penalty box door after a call for hooking he didn’t like. Still, that probably is symptomatic of a larger discipline and poise issue that starts at the top.
 
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walrus said:
Blacki
Red is going to get extended unless he quits or retires.
I don't see how Maine can change coaches at this point.
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I don't see how Maine can extend him; his track record is far worse than Timmy's, who Maine fired on the basis of far better results. Maine hasn't beaten a single top-16 PW team all year, and only one (BU) that has even finished over .500.

If Red really cares about Maine hockey -and I believe that he does- let him get the team to the NCAA's next year, or go away. In the meantime, he ought to help keep whatever back-channels Maine might have alive to find to find his replacement.

I'm guessing that he'd do that, if asked.
 
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Fishman'81 said:
I don't see how Maine can extend him; his track record is far worse than Timmy's, who Maine fired on the basis of far better results. Maine hasn't beaten a single top-16 PW team all year, and only one (BU) that has even finished over .500.

If Red really cares about Maine hockey -and I believe that he does- let him get the team to the NCAA's next year, or go away. In the meantime, he ought to help keep whatever back-channels Maine might have alive to find to find his replacement.

I'm guessing that he'd do that, if asked.
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Its going to happen. They wont have a “lame duck.” Best hope is for s school friendly buyout if next year is poor
 
Re: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

HEA first, second, and third team all stars named, no Black Bears to be found. I figured one of Pearson, Fossier, or Swayman could have cracked at least third team, but not to be.
 
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