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UAA: Exciting Things Ahead!

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Well athletics is really the way for UAA to get itself out there. Unless UAF is willing to give up some research programs to UAA, and I think we all know the answer to that. If there is any good to come out of this budget it will be the long needed reshuffling of the UA system. UAF becomes the research school, UAA the business and liberal arts school ("business" in the Alaska sense, meaning engineering and aviation as well). The problem with athletics is, at the D2 level, we need UAF. Teams wouldn't be very happy paying travel costs for one game (hockey actually doesn't have that problem, everybody would be happy to rid one Alaska school, although UAA probably isn't the one anybody would pick). Cutting UAF out of athletics just shifts costs instead of saving money.

The big thing that will decide? Political pull. Unfortunately Alaska doesn't have many politicians that went to any UA school but plenty of conservatives that hate state education in general.

I agree that in the long run we will see UAF and UAA separate more in terms of their program offerings. I think UAA will become, generally, the liberal arts and business school, and UAF will evolve into the science and agricultural school, which it already is in many respects. It'll start to mirror what you already see in other states with two major universities. I've talked to a lot of UAF people who see it going the same way, especially since UAF is trying to position itself at the forefront of the Arctic policy debate.

Also agree with your second paragraph. Too many politicians here think higher education is a joke. It's a cultural oddity of this state.
 
The concern is that we are not looking at reducing costs to get through the short term. Oil prices may recover somewhat but production probably won’t. We are looking at permanent restructuring in how the state does business, including and especially the University. Athletics will not go untouched while they start cutting degree programs (even those with marginal enrollment). All urban and rural campuses will be greatly impacted, not just squeezed a little. If you think the 2015-16 budget picture looks bleak, wait till 2016-17.

If Fairbank’s instructional programs can retain accreditation then I can see us maintaining athletic programs. But if we become some sort of satellite instructional/research arm of the University then I can see the UA system having only one NCAA team per sport. That does have all sorts of conference affiliation and cost implications. This is just draconian speculation on my part, and I hope it’s just the ramblings of a senile old fart. I’d be happy with that.

That's what we get for being so doggone dependent on the cost of a barrel of oil. Alaska has done a non-existent job of trying to diversify. Too many, as you say, senile old farts here who think oil will just keep trucking along at 1989 production levels. Sooner or later we are going to run out of the stuff.
 
The concern is that we are not looking at reducing costs to get through the short term. Oil prices may recover somewhat but production probably won’t. We are looking at permanent restructuring in how the state does business, including and especially the University. Athletics will not go untouched while they start cutting degree programs (even those with marginal enrollment). All urban and rural campuses will be greatly impacted, not just squeezed a little. If you think the 2015-16 budget picture looks bleak, wait till 2016-17.

If Fairbank’s instructional programs can retain accreditation then I can see us maintaining athletic programs. But if we become some sort of satellite instructional/research arm of the University then I can see the UA system having only one NCAA team per sport. That does have all sorts of conference affiliation and cost implications. This is just draconian speculation on my part, and I hope it’s just the ramblings of a senile old fart. I’d be happy with that.
Oh I don't think it's rambling, these are legitimate concerns about long-term economic health.

Athletic changes are really just a small piece in the giant restructuring that Alaska will have to through.
 
I agree that in the long run we will see UAF and UAA separate more in terms of their program offerings. I think UAA will become, generally, the liberal arts and business school, and UAF will evolve into the science and agricultural school, which it already is in many respects. It'll start to mirror what you already see in other states with two major universities. I've talked to a lot of UAF people who see it going the same way, especially since UAF is trying to position itself at the forefront of the Arctic policy debate.

Also agree with your second paragraph. Too many politicians here think higher education is a joke. It's a cultural oddity of this state.
Well, it's a change that should've been made 20 years ago, a change many of us at UAA wanted 10 years ago, but politics got in the way of.

And yes I too shudder at the politicians elected here.
 
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The only two D1 sports we have are men's hockey and ladies gymnastics
Title IX say mens and womens sports have to balance out so cant have one without the other
Not aware that skiing is D1??????
Skiing.competes.at.the.Division1.level
 
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while not identical at all, Michigan went thru a similar set of problems. The state was running terrible deficits. We had lived on the auto business and on peoples capital gains taxes for quite a while. then the bubble burst.

The dems were in the gov office and republicans ran the legislature. So nothing got done much because the dems wouldn't go for a tax increase and the republicans wouldn't go for a cut in some things and vice versa at times. The republicans were happy to cut anything that said union on it, like education. Then a republican got into the gov office and we raised taxes by taxing retirements, which were not taxed before. We also gave business a big tax cut. rightly or wrongly and closed a number of prisons. ( Michigan incarcerates 2 or 3 times as many people as the states around us, like Illinois, as a % of population, so we have a lot of prisons.) Anyway, Employment has risen some, the budget has stabilized and the economy has recovered a bit.

The university system in Michigan is one of the top ones nationwide, but had to contend with basically a frozen budget from the state for about 10 years. Next year for the first time in memory, they are going to get an increase in the budget.

Many university's are still feeling the pinch and some are hurting more than others. Most raised tuition significantly and virtually every year. LSSU is struggling as much as anyone, but everyone has been hurt.
So any improvements to athletic salaries etc, have come from donations. Tech cut football, but the football alumni did fund raising and funded the program for the foreseeable future so it got un cut.
The hockey program improvements have mostly been done with donations as well.

But I'll reiterate. Both of your teams are better than you think, and not that far from real success.

just my two cents.
 
while not identical at all, Michigan went thru a similar set of problems. The state was running terrible deficits. We had lived on the auto business and on peoples capital gains taxes for quite a while. then the bubble burst.

The dems were in the gov office and republicans ran the legislature. So nothing got done much because the dems wouldn't go for a tax increase and the republicans wouldn't go for a cut in some things and vice versa at times. The republicans were happy to cut anything that said union on it, like education. Then a republican got into the gov office and we raised taxes by taxing retirements, which were not taxed before. We also gave business a big tax cut. rightly or wrongly and closed a number of prisons. ( Michigan incarcerates 2 or 3 times as many people as the states around us, like Illinois, as a % of population, so we have a lot of prisons.) Anyway, Employment has risen some, the budget has stabilized and the economy has recovered a bit.

The university system in Michigan is one of the top ones nationwide, but had to contend with basically a frozen budget from the state for about 10 years. Next year for the first time in memory, they are going to get an increase in the budget.

Many university's are still feeling the pinch and some are hurting more than others. Most raised tuition significantly and virtually every year. LSSU is struggling as much as anyone, but everyone has been hurt.
So any improvements to athletic salaries etc, have come from donations. Tech cut football, but the football alumni did fund raising and funded the program for the foreseeable future so it got un cut.
The hockey program improvements have mostly been done with donations as well.

But I'll reiterate. Both of your teams are better than you think, and not that far from real success.

just my two cents.
Well there's a few differences. First off, Alaska doesn't have anywhere near the population base of Michigan so even taxes may not be able to fully recover our economy, and if the oil based portion of the economy dries up there will be a lot less to tax.

Another difference, neither UAA nor UAF have an alumni base that could keep a program alive at lower 48 budget levels, let alone the budgets either school runs at.

Yes, we may be starting to turn around but, these are real concerns.
 
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Skiing.competes.at.the.Division1.level
As usual you are exactly correct Viz.
Skiing at UAA is a D2 program but along with competing at the D2 level we also "compete" at the D1 level.
Parroting the people who know "the only two D1 programs at UAA are mens hockey and ladies gymnastics".

Edit: don't know about the dump bears but I don't want to get in their rifle teams sights. D1 or D2 them folks are sharp shooters.
 
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If I guess anything to happen it'd be first retiring out some old Associate ADs, maybe some staff and budget cuts, and finally sport cuts starting with skiing...
Kinda gotta disagree with you on the ADs and staff cuts.
Those folks have been overworked for years and are only now being brought out of the 1980's and into the present.
Those ADs work every event in addition to the 9 to 5. If they got paid overtime it's true, we couldn't afford them. They put in hellascious hours.
As MMF sarcastically said somewhere on these boards do it the UA_ way and see the troubles and tribulations that follow.
We've finally got a "sales" department. One guy and a desk. Not a real stand alone office just sharing one with another guy who is not in sales. And this is supposed to pass as a marketing department also?
Hackett has his faults but the changes he has made and continues to make in how athletics is run is in my opinion headed in the right direction.
Lets not be penny wise and pound foolish.

Edit:And Suze I agree the hockey ticket promotions need something more than social media promotion.
 
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It's not just UAA, either. UAH is in the same boat in terms of the number of staff available to support the programs that we have. We have 16 programs and are about to add M/W lacrosse. Hockey is our only D-I sport. When I worked for UAH Athletics four years ago, my memory is that my boss worked every day in February and 29 of 31 in March. Basketball, softball, baseball, and hockey are all in full swing this time of year, so it gets kinda crazy...

GFM
 
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Kinda gotta disagree with you on the ADs and staff cuts.
Those folks have been overworked for years and are only now being brought out of the 1980's and into the present.
Those ADs work every event in addition to the 9 to 5. If they got paid overtime it's true, we couldn't afford them. They put in hellascious hours.
As MMF sarcastically said somewhere on these boards do it the UA_ way and see the troubles and tribulations that follow.
We've finally got a "sales" department. One guy and a desk. Not a real stand alone office just sharing one with another guy who is not in sales. And this is supposed to pass as a marketing department also?
Hackett has his faults but the changes he has made and continues to make in how athletics is run is in my opinion headed in the right direction.
Lets not be penny wise and pound foolish.

Edit:And Suze I agree the hockey ticket promotions need something more than social media promotion.

ATTENTIION ON DECK

Who is up to slip on a jersey and hang out on a busy corner a few hours a late afternoon during rush hour traffic? just a day or

two of holding a sign like a bunch of Homeless or political hacks and do “the tax dance” to the UAA Fight song blaring on a

boom box ? Seawolf Fan, Suze want to sign up and show off your moves?

...... JJ You are all ready on the list
 
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ATTENTIION ON DECK

Who is up to slip on a jersey and hang out on a busy corner a few hours a late afternoon during rush hour traffic? just a day or two of holding a

sign like a bunch of Homeless or political hacks and do “the tax dance” to the UAA Fight song blaring on a boom box ? Seawolf Fan, Suze

want to sign up and show off your moves?

...... JJ You are all ready on the list

I don't know which is funnier, envisioning anyone doing what you suggest, or thinking of the UAA ditty as a "fight song". LOL
 
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I don't know which is funnier, envisioning anyone doing what you suggest, or thinking of the UAA ditty as a "fight song". LOL

I take that as a no. …………But......

What if I called a big cheese that told a bigwig who dropped a dime and arranged it so you could slam beers while munching hot

wings and corndogs while sitting at the side of Sprit at the Crossbar after the taxing Awareness campaign on New Seward

highway.

Would you reconsider?
 
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Kinda gotta disagree with you on the ADs and staff cuts.
Those folks have been overworked for years and are only now being brought out of the 1980's and into the present.
Those ADs work every event in addition to the 9 to 5. If they got paid overtime it's true, we couldn't afford them. They put in hellascious hours.
As MMF sarcastically said somewhere on these boards do it the UA_ way and see the troubles and tribulations that follow.
We've finally got a "sales" department. One guy and a desk. Not a real stand alone office just sharing one with another guy who is not in sales. And this is supposed to pass as a marketing department also?
Hackett has his faults but the changes he has made and continues to make in how athletics is run is in my opinion headed in the right direction.
Lets not be penny wise and pound foolish.

Edit:And Suze I agree the hockey ticket promotions need something more than social media promotion.

Ditto! Those in the athletic department already work LONG hours, I can't see cutting any staff. They are overworked as it is!

Seawolf Fan, I think your email has been hacked.
 
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I take that as a no. …………But......

What if I called a big cheese that told a bigwig who dropped a dime and arranged it so you could slam beers while munching hot

wings and corndogs while sitting at the side of Sprit at the Crossbar after the taxing Awareness campaign on New Seward

highway.

Would you reconsider?

Ummmmm .... nah. But I'd PAY to see YOU do that! :eek:
 
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Another ticket promotion is out (Alumni $10 tickets to the Governors Cup).
Wonder if it will be advertised anywhere other than social media?
Just wondering.
 
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Another ticket promotion is out (Alumni $10 tickets to the Governors Cup).
Wonder if it will be advertised anywhere other than social media?
Just wondering.

I got the email as well. Sounds like they will have an "alumni section". Good idea! Now if they only show up! There are a lot of alumni around.
 
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