U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

[carltonbarrett]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

It's still early in the season. Based on what I heard tonight, Maine is just as good if not better than UNH. Maine is "snake bit" right now in the scoring department and could definitely use some more scorers (sniper). As the season progresses the freshman line will get better and should contribute some scoring. Goal tending should improve also. Maine does not have a lot of talent, but the team works hard and eventually that work ethic should pay off.

The only problem with that reasoning is that other teams will be improving too as the season progresses, not just Maine; and furthermore, since Maine is actually more of an experienced team, they are less likely to see improved play than someone like say UNH who is skating 3 inexperienced D-Men, or other teams that are full of freshmen and sophmores.

 

[rufus]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

It's still early in the season. Based on what I heard tonight, Maine is just as good if not better than UNH. Maine is "snake bit" right now in the scoring department and could definitely use some more scorers (sniper). As the season progresses the freshman line will get better and should contribute some scoring. Goal tending should improve also. Maine does not have a lot of talent, but the team works hard and eventually that work ethic should pay off.

Flashback to this time in 2010. Or 2009. Or 2008. And so on and so on. It's the same story year after year. The players change, but it's the same story on the ice. So what's the one consistent factor year to year? The coach. It's time for him to go, as it's clear he is incapable of getting the most out of his players, to get them to play up to the level they're capable of.

Tough practices? Yeah, that's what this team needs for a start, but those aren't in TIMMAY's repertoire. half speed all the time, and he wonders why his team's are incapable of keeping up with the speedsters in the league, or keep getting ground down in the corners.

Umass games ought to be interesting after what they did to BC last night. The battle to see who is HE's worst head coach. Oh, to have PC's head coach with this group of players.

 

[GoUNH]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

Flashback to this time in 2010. Or 2009. Or 2008. And so on and so on. It's the same story year after year. The players change, but it's the same story on the ice. So what's the one consistent factor year to year? The coach. It's time for him to go, as it's clear he is incapable of getting the most out of his players, to get them to play up to the level they're capable of.

Tough practices? Yeah, that's what this team needs for a start, but those aren't in TIMMAY's repertoire. half speed all the time, and he wonders why his team's are incapable of keeping up with the speedsters in the league, or keep getting ground down in the corners.

Umass games ought to be interesting after what they did to BC last night. The battle to see who is HE's worst head coach. Oh, to have PC's head coach with this group of players.

The Maine team I saw last night played very well. Very talented group, plenty of chances and lots of bad bounces.

 

[Ma#1ne Hky]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

This team has taken on the personality of its coach.......nice guys that don't show much passion or enthusiasm for the game of hockey. Occasional bursts of hard work give us hope. We have talent, but the game needs to be played for 60 full minutes, not 20 like last night. Maine is becoming a bunny on the schedule for our opponents, especially on the road. If you think about it the ray of hope for our season was last weekends sweep of PC. That should be expected, we should dominate them. Not hard fought, ot and hang on till the end wins. Our only other win was against another cellar dweller, NU at home. I fear that the occasional flashes of playing to our potential will mask the need for a major overhaul if Maine is to ever seriously be considered a player on the national college scene again. I'd like to see another national championship in my lifetime.

Well put...and I too am wondering and hoping to see ANOTHER N.C. for Maine,that will come ONLY with a CHANGE behind the Bench.

 

[Ma#1ne Hky]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

The Maine team I saw last night played very well. Very talented group, plenty of chances and lots of bad bounces.

Theres a saying: Puck Luck & Thats Hockey,but the bottom line is W's,not what could have been or this or that.

 

[Ma#1ne Hky]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

Flashback to this time in 2010. Or 2009. Or 2008. And so on and so on. It's the same story year after year. The players change, but it's the same story on the ice. So what's the one consistent factor year to year? The coach. It's time for him to go, as it's clear he is incapable of getting the most out of his players, to get them to play up to the level they're capable of.

Tough practices? Yeah, that's what this team needs for a start, but those aren't in TIMMAY's repertoire. half speed all the time, and he wonders why his team's are incapable of keeping up with the speedsters in the league, or keep getting ground down in the corners.

Umass games ought to be interesting after what they did to BC last night. The battle to see who is HE's worst head coach. Oh, to have PC's head coach with this group of players.

You are right: Same Story...except even the Die-hards will get fed up sooner or later...their LOSING the FAN's which is even unthinkable.

 

[FiveHole12]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

I don't think this was as bad of a weekend as people will make it out to be. Even last night for as dominating as BC looked at times it didn't really show up in the statistics. They only outshot Maine by like six shots and only outscored Maine 2-1 5X5.

FWIW, Maine wasn't very good on Friday night. Grasping at straws and a ray of hope with those shot stats, IMO.

Last Saturday Lowell outshot their opponent 40-24 and lost 6-3 (and outshot them 39-20 the night before and lost 4-2). Don't hang your hat on stats. Believe what you see on the ice.

 

[staind86]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

Is it just me or has the play of Will O'Neil actually kinda stunk this season? He hasn't been awful but he takes a lot of bad penalties and just doesn't seem a sharp this season without Dimmen next to him..might be just me but I haven't been impressed or seen any improvement.

 

[rufus]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

O'Neill's never been a good defensive defenseman. He's there for his ability with the puck in the offensive zone. But Hegarty's the one who's really disappointed me. Coming in from the USNDT, expected much bigger things from him than we've seen in four years. He should be the stud of that defensive corps, but there really isn't one.

 

[BearNecessity]

O'Neill's never been a good defensive defenseman. He's there for his ability with the puck in the offensive zone. But Hegarty's the one who's really disappointed me. Coming in from the USNDT, expected much bigger things from him than we've seen in four years. He should be the stud of that defensive corps, but there really isn't one.

There are no simple answers for this. o'Neil is a talented player, who coaches seeing incapable of mistakes.d
dim men was the defensive stalwart on thar pair, Mangene has been told to jump in, soOnsie is now the Defensive guy, and is I'll suited to the role. Get a better d pairing move Mangene back up front, or a new pairing and you would get the better return, still like the Beattie, Mangene, Anthoine idea, and this would get O'Connor and Cornell back in, and build confidence, instead oh having them yo yo in and out . put Hegs with either of these guys and you will see a different , same with O'neil. Marty better last night

 

[walrus]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

I don't think this was as bad of a weekend as people will make it out to be..

How good can it be when you lose twice, one of those losses getting your head handed to you?

The freshman line has been going to produce for 3 years now, why don't you add up the goals from the this years freshman class and the last 2 freshman classes including their soph and Jr stats, do we make it to double figures?, do I have to take my socks off to count them? maybe one sock.

The team might work hard but their is little talent after the first line or that talent isn't being used right, either way, we all know who figures in that.

 

[KnowItAll]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

It's still early in the season. Based on what I heard tonight, Maine is just as good if not better than UNH. Maine is "snake bit" right now in the scoring department and could definitely use some more scorers (sniper). As the season progresses the freshman line will get better and should contribute some scoring. Goal tending should improve also. Maine does not have a lot of talent, but the team works hard and eventually that work ethic should pay off.

you realize that this group has exactly three players with more skill than Gray Shaneberger.... not picking on Gray, but ...

 

[irishfan85]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

Very sad last night at UNH to see a once proud program just have no chance in this once great rivalry. I remember the games of the late 90s and early 2000s with so much fondness. Now we have one line who's capable of playing real well, but they stunk it up this weekend. We have two goalies who are completely incompetent and a coaching staff that stinks at recruiting, game strategy and motivating. Very sad.

For those trying to be optimistic, I want you to take a look at the line chart or take a look on the ice during warm ups and think how many of these guys would have been on the team in the glory days? I'll give you a good idea. No more than 5 or 6 and that's being very generous. Flynn, Abbott, Diamond, Mangene, O'Neill and Beatie.

 

[KnowItAll]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

How good can it be when you lose twice, one of those losses getting your head handed to you?

that was not a loss, that was a reminder of what
kariya-montgomery-ingraham
ferraro-ferraro-salfi/fenton/mercier
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and a fourth line that could have included 3 20 point scorers

along with Imes MacIssac, Martin silverman Saunders on D. looked like playing any bottom half team

THIS TEAM DID NOT NEED Jamie Thompson's speed or Rodrigues Cannon, so it left them in the stands
THAT was what BC looked like against Maine until Jerry called off the hounds

 

[KnowItAll]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

Very sad last night at UNH to see a once proud program just have no chance in this once great rivalry. I remember the games of the late 90s and early 2000s with so much fondness. Now we have one line who's capable of playing real well, but they stunk it up this weekend. We have two goalies who are completely incompetent and a coaching staff that stinks at recruiting, game strategy and motivating. Very sad.

For those trying to be optimistic, I want you to take a look at the line chart or take a look on the ice during warm ups and think how many of these guys would have been on the team in the glory days? I'll give you a good idea. No more than 5 or 6 and that's being very generous. Flynn, Abbott, Diamond, Mangene, O'Neill and Beatie.

I JUST posted that the 93 team had no need for Jamie Thompson's speed, what would they have used Mangene for? Tomberlin came in from third base and was a better D man. (of course TOmberlin had a coach that knew what D was)

 

[KnowItAll]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

Dead on. Welcome to Lake State

welcome to????
take a look at walrus's avatar and MY location?
I've been posting from Sault Ste. Orono for about 5 years and he has had the Logo even longer... this is not news to those of us with eyes.

Maine fan in LA and revoman are wiser than most of us.... they pretty much left when grant left

 

[KnowItAll]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

Yeah, everyone is just rolling over Providence right now. Its absolutely ridiculous Maine didn't beat them by at least five goals each game

Drew, I posted it a couple days ago and I am sure I am right (knowing it all as I do).
Maine's last day at .500 was Friday... until October

 

[Drew S.]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

How good can it be when you lose twice, one of those losses getting your head handed to you?

The freshman line has been going to produce for 3 years now, why don't you add up the goals from the this years freshman class and the last 2 freshman classes including their soph and Jr stats, do we make it to double figures?, do I have to take my socks off to count them? maybe one sock.

The team might work hard but their is little talent after the first line or that talent isn't being used right, either way, we all know who figures in that.

I think your last line goes for most teams in college hockey, unfortunately. For as dominant as this year's BC team has been they have nowhere near the talent they had 10 or 12 years ago, especially on defense. College hockey has changed a lot and I think/hope that Maine is back on the right track going forward but who knows. I think that the things that frustrate a lot of the people on here are more systemic than just Tim's doing. Maine has been hit much harder by more kids going to MJ than other programs simply because Maine's big attraction was that it was a great place to work on your game and develop. Those are the kinds of kids who are going to Canada more so than the kids who are more focused on education. Unless they want to be engineers the good students are always going to pick BC, BU, or one of ivies over us. Hopefully I'm horribly wrong and we get a new coach (Montgomery) who completely turns things around but I think even then our success would be a lot different than it was in the past.

 

[Ma#1ne Hky]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

I think your last line goes for most teams in college hockey, unfortunately. For as dominant as this year's BC team has been they have nowhere near the talent they had 10 or 12 years ago, especially on defense. College hockey has changed a lot and I think/hope that Maine is back on the right track going forward but who knows. I think that the things that frustrate a lot of the people on here are more systemic than just Tim's doing. Maine has been hit much harder by more kids going to MJ than other programs simply because Maine's big attraction was that it was a great place to work on your game and develop. Those are the kinds of kids who are going to Canada more so than the kids who are more focused on education. Unless they want to be engineers the good students are always going to pick BC, BU, or one of ivies over us. Hopefully I'm horribly wrong and we get a new coach (Montgomery) who completely turns things around but I think even then our success would be a lot different than it was in the past.

Bottom Line; the Man behind the Bench makes the Team tick...

 

[Greg Ambrose]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

The Maine team I saw last night played very well. Very talented group, plenty of chances and lots of bad bounces.

I'd say that the bad bounces, and the good ones, were kind of even. Maine's first two goals? The first was a rebound of a shot that went off of DiGirolamo's mask, the second was a double deflection. I'll grant that Maine had more zone time than UNH in the third, but not surprising when you consider that UNH had three inexperienced d-men out there who definitely were starting to wilt. My guess is that Maine will improve but, as someone pointed out, so will the other teams in the league.